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OOOOO NEC's new monitors!

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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10/19...ut_the_future_of_flat_panels_with_lcd/


We took a trip down to see monitor maker NEC yesterday, to find out what the company is doing about catering to the needs of geeks and gamers like us.

NEC itself is introducing two new panels today for gamers to get excited about. The GX2 Pro is an updated version of the display that we gave our Recommended Award to earlier this year, sporting a better response time. This is going to come in at a price that will make it very attractive for those looking to game at 1680x1050. NEC is also intoducing the 2690WUXi, which is a 26" panel at 1920x1200. It has HDCP, new power saving modes and full ergonomic adjustment for maximum comfort. Because it has a larger size than a 24" with the same resolution, NEC says the display is a little easier to get along with.

There appear to be some changes under foot, however, in terms of the general market. Capacity for LCD production is increasing dramatically, and one rep even suggested jokingly that consumers "Shouldn't ever buy a new TV" - since LCD costs are falling by 40% a year, you can always have more if you wait.

In the desktop monitor market, there appear to be some slight shifts in terms of the sizes we're going to be seeing. Currently, the dominant formats include 17" 4:3, 20" wide and 24" wide. Going into next year, the vast majority of 4:3 sales will be 19" panels, with 17" being all but phased out. 22" will replace 20" as the 1680x1050 panel of choice for manufacturers, whilst 24" 1920x1200 will remain a high end choice.

If you're hoping to see a fantastically high resolution - say, 2560x1600 - in a panel less than 30" wide, you can forget about it. NEC says that none of the big Japanese manufacturers are going to produce those displays because of a perceived lack of demand. People wanting a smaller dot pitch on monitors are, we are told, "Very rare." There are some Quad-SLI users and old CRT gamers that would beg to differ!

Over the next 12 months, improvements to monitors will include better contrast ratios of up to 2000:1, as well as LED backlighting, which will provide more brightness, better power characteristics and an even wider colour range.

We're going to be putting the GX2 PRo and the 2690WUXi through their paces in these pages very shortly. Stay tuned! In the mean time, let us know your thoughts over in the forums.


i sign up for the 26 incher :D



http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=3583

here's some more info and a picture. NEC launched a 57 inch display and the 26 incher
 

Jibboom

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Sounds good :)

With contrast ratios up to 2000:1 I might just have to get one so that I can finally replace the CRT I use for photochopping.
 

Dkcode

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Id be intrested to see the 2690WUXi. The NEC 90 series do not disappoint.
 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Wow, yet another LCD. How exciting.

Not just any LCD... Have you actually seen one of the NEC 20" monitors?
I've seen the model #K20WMGX2.

Again, it's just another LCD. Amongst the better LCDs I've seen, perhaps the best, but only by a hair. It suffers from the same color and off-axis distortion as any other LCD I've seen, including dithering and dynamic range compression.

It's a bit frustrating hearing about all these superior technologies, Laser/LED/SED yet not having anything to upgrade to from an L90D+. The only justified upgrade would be a monster CRT display, but I'm not desperate enough to get one of those just yet.
 

JackBurton

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"If you're hoping to see a fantastically high resolution - say, 2560x1600 - in a panel less than 30" wide, you can forget about it. NEC says that none of the big Japanese manufacturers are going to produce those displays because of a perceived lack of demand. People wanting a smaller dot pitch on monitors are, we are told, "Very rare." There are some Quad-SLI users and old CRT gamers that would beg to differ!"




That is weak! I wouldn't definitely like to see NEC come out with a 30" LCD. :(
 

TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
"If you're hoping to see a fantastically high resolution - say, 2560x1600 - in a panel less than 30" wide, you can forget about it. NEC says that none of the big Japanese manufacturers are going to produce those displays because of a perceived lack of demand. People wanting a smaller dot pitch on monitors are, we are told, "Very rare." There are some Quad-SLI users and old CRT gamers that would beg to differ!"




That is weak! I wouldn't definitely like to see NEC come out with a 30" LCD. :(

its not about 30" monitor. its about a 30" monitor with 2560x1600+ resolutions
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
Originally posted by: JackBurton
"If you're hoping to see a fantastically high resolution - say, 2560x1600 - in a panel less than 30" wide, you can forget about it. NEC says that none of the big Japanese manufacturers are going to produce those displays because of a perceived lack of demand. People wanting a smaller dot pitch on monitors are, we are told, "Very rare." There are some Quad-SLI users and old CRT gamers that would beg to differ!"




That is weak! I wouldn't definitely like to see NEC come out with a 30" LCD. :(

its not about 30" monitor. its about a 30" monitor with 2560x1600+ resolutions

Sorry, I thought when I said 30", 2560x1600 was inferred. When I say 30", it should be in competition to Apple and Dell's 30" LCDs which are both 2560x1600. And yes, I would like to have seen NEC to come out with a 30" 2560x1600 LCD.
 

hans007

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according to that press release, the 20wxmx2pro is exactly the same as the original (which i just bought last week)... I was getting scared there.

the nwe 17 and 19" are TN panels anyway, i guess they just dropped the gray to gray to 2ms from 5ms. i doubt this is a big deal.

the 26" is definitely the new monitor to have. then again itll probably be $1200 or something.

too bad the 26" is not part of the gamer line, so it wont have the opticlear DVM stuff.

 

BassBomb

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If this thing drops to like... Samsung 215TW range of price I am really interested.

I can get a Samsung 215TW for $500 CDN or a 90WMGX2 for $700 which is too steep for me.

I also like the 2407FPW but man thats even more steep! I want a cheap 8bit 1920x1200 monitor :)
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: BassBomb
If this thing drops to like... Samsung 215TW range of price I am really interested.

I can get a Samsung 215TW for $500 CDN or a 90WMGX2 for $700 which is too steep for me.

I also like the 2407FPW but man thats even more steep! I want a cheap 8bit 1920x1200 monitor :)

wow they are really charging a lot up in canada. a 20wgmx2 costs about $550 + tax and such in the US
 

josh6079

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NEC is also intoducing the 2690WUXi, which is a 26" panel at 1920x1200. It has HDCP, new power saving modes and full ergonomic adjustment for maximum comfort.
You know what Pippen said to Mary on LOTR's when he sat down with a pint of ale?
 

BFG10K

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I see nothing here for gamers to get excited about. What would excite me is if NEC made some new high-end CRT monitors.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
I see nothing here for gamers to get excited about. What would excite me is if NEC made some new high-end CRT monitors.

There's actually plenty for gamers to be excited about: a display that can not only exceed the color gamut of most CRTs and all current consumer LCDs (72%), but one that'll be able to maintain a response time as well as the fastest LCDs. They'll also have the widest viewing angle possible. Though you will also look forward to taking out a second mortgage.

Screenshots of the LCD2690UXi: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1095840

Edit: screenshots, photos, same difference. Also, my mistake...this LCD is NEC's ~92% gamut LCD, not one of their 102% ones so it comes just under the Diamondtrons for color gamut. We can't be sure of the exact number until it's released. I believe it has a 10-bit panel (8-bit plus a new dithering algorithm).
 

A5

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Originally posted by: josh6079
NEC is also intoducing the 2690WUXi, which is a 26" panel at 1920x1200. It has HDCP, new power saving modes and full ergonomic adjustment for maximum comfort.
You know what Pippen said to Mary on LOTR's when he sat down with a pint of ale?

A) It's Merry, not Mary

B) "It comes in pints? I'm getting one!"

Woo. :p
 

josh6079

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Doh!! You're right, my bad. I should learn how to spell.

And yes, if it's the same thing only bigger, my words are going to be the same as Merry's.
 

BFG10K

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There's actually plenty for gamers to be excited about: a display that can not only exceed the color gamut of most CRTs and all current consumer LCDs (72%), but one that'll be able to maintain a response time as well as the fastest LCDs. They'll also have the widest viewing angle possible.
Great. It'll still be stuck at one resolution, have inferior black levels and have problems with lag/response/ghosting compared to CRTs.

Like I said, I see nothing here to excite gamers. A new CRT would excite gamers.
 

xtknight

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It depends on your definition of gamer. The majority of gamers probably use LCDs by now, and this will be a godsend compared to the 6-bit TNs they're stuck with. For the few who were lucky enough to get DiamondTrons when they were good QC, probably not.