one week till the iowa caucus: final predictions?

nageov3t

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I might be playing it safe, but I'm thinking Obama / Huckabee.

on the D side, I think Obama is going to win Iowa and have a potential surge in NH if the independents vote Dem in order to vote against Clinton.

that'd be pretty bad news for McCain, whose only hope is that the I's break for him, leaving Romney to rebound and win New Hampshire, potentially making this the first super tuesday in my memory to actually matter.

I look forward to being wrong :p Kerry wasn't even on my map at this stage of the game 4 years ago. lol.
 

wwswimming

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D - Obama

R - Paul

i was going to say Edwards, because that's who my Mom
likes, she's my one person focus group. but i picked Obama
in the poll, him and Kucinich are the only D's i hear people
enthusiastic about.

Paul is the only R is hear people enthusiastic about. by far.

i had no idea it was coming up this quickly.
 

Nitemare

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Ideally Paul vs Obama, but I'd take Huckabee vs Obama

As long as Hillary, Edwards and Romney are out, I'm happy
 

schdaddy

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D = Obama

Clinton never had it and never will - call me crazy but I blame the media for her rise.

R = Paul

The repubs have been pulled every which way looking for a candidate, plus Ron is the only one that inspires people.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Obama and Huckabee...

LOL - 5 votes for RP.

hang in there, it's almost over :) And 5 votes is about what he's gonna get so it's an accurate representation.
 

NoStateofMind

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Obama - he still sucks. Patriot act is a killer IMO. How anyone would want someone who either voted for this or the war I have no clue.

Ron Paul - The best candidate to run in a hundred years by far!

You guys might despise Paul with a passion, thats ok, you're entitled to that. Paul may do better than alot of people think in IA, which will turn heads in other caucuses :D
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: SpongeBob
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Clinton and Romney.

Who the hell is voting for Paul? LOL

I can't believe anyone voted for anyone but Paul.

The question was who do you think, not who do you want...electors arent gonna vote for him. He realistically isnt electable.

we'll see though.
 

Lemon law

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Since my State does not hold its primary early, I will sit on the sidelines and watch. Its only the voters in the early primary and caucus states that will get the real inputs. Because these results are real and they matter. And candidates who win or do better than expected will receive new life and those that don't may soon be dropping out resulting in a thinned
Republican and democratic field. And we at long last will get to see if some of the Ron Paul hype is for real or not in fairly short order.

But since I can't have any early impact, I see no reason to be a cheerleader for anyone. But I do reserve the right to decry the results.
 

Craig234

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My prediction is that the discussion will continue to be at the opposite ratio of what it should be, over 90% about the horse race/ who is ahead, and under 10% about the issues and policies.

That feeds nicely into the increase role of wealth in our political system, rather than putting the ideas onto any equal playing field and creating pressure for more public-oriented policies.

Can you really name three policy statements of front-runner Hillary Clinton - or can you far better talk about the horse race issues about her 'high negatives' and 'the Bill factor' and so on? Can you name almost any policy statement about Edwards other than 'two Americas' and caring about the poor, rather than simply talking about the horse race where he's in third place but has the highest 'likability' with Iowans?

Is this thread about any topic on who has the best policies, or yet again, which horse is ahead?

Why are so many so willing to ignore the issues, and play into the money-dominated part of the system?
 

nageov3t

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Why are so many so willing to ignore the issues...

because, with a couple notable exceptions (ie: ron paul on the war), most candidates fit within the framework of their respective parties on most major issue.

and really, it doesn't matter what we think about where they stand on the issues since the vast majority of us are neither iowans nor in states where the primary votes will matter.
 

techs

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"final prediction"?
Ron Paul won't get anywhere near the votes in Iowa (or any state) that he gets in online polls.
 

randym431

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Clinton BIG time, and some republican guy.

Seen an old clip of Huchabee from years past and he looked just like Jerry Falwell. Pretty scary actually. Those looking to support him, I'd look close into his past, and his past comments. He sure liked pushing those "fees".

Obama? I don?t know what folks see in him. He has great speeches, but thats it. Looks like another Jimmy Carter to me. Means well, but how to get there is another reality check.
Obama talks a good line, but where does he go when that nasty "congress" doesn?t agree?
Maybe someday, but surely not this time for him.

Hillary is smart. Now she's REALLY smart. She's a thinker, and would do this country proud, if people can just get over she's a WOMAN.

She'll win and win big. And all this nonsense talk about Obama, Edwards and the rest will finally be put in its place.

PS. Does anyone really know what a caucus is? Its on Thursday night, and takes like a couple hours. What about the people that work nights? Or cant spend 2 hours at a "caucus"?

The caucus system, along with the electoral college should have been trashed and eliminated loooong ago.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: alchemize
Obama and Huckabee...

LOL - 5 votes for RP.

hang in there, it's almost over :) And 5 votes is about what he's gonna get so it's an accurate representation.

Well, we're getting an official count of how many RP spambots are registered here. It's currently at 23 :)
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: randym431

PS. Does anyone really know what a caucus is? Its on Thursday night, and takes like a couple hours. What about the people that work nights? Or cant spend 2 hours at a "caucus"?

isn't it like, a bunch of people sitting around a room and they all say who they want to vote for until they reach a majority decision?

I don't know... it's pretty stupid and F Iowa.

the whole thing just makes me angry. lol. it's retarded that you've got 2 states who are like in no way representative of the nation as a whole more or less deciding the whole thing, though this year may be different.

I was a really big fan of that rotating regional primary thing.
 

Fern

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My predictions (at the moment - they change by the second :) )

D:

1. Edwards
2. Obama
3. HRC

R:

1. Huck
2. Romney
3. McCain

I've NEVER been correct in election predictions. I look forward to re-visting this thread to confirm my trend continues.

Edit: Even though I like Paul I'm LOL'ing about peeps saying he's gonna win in Iowa.

Fern
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Why are so many so willing to ignore the issues...

because, with a couple notable exceptions (ie: ron paul on the war), most candidates fit within the framework of their respective parties on most major issue.

and really, it doesn't matter what we think about where they stand on the issues since the vast majority of us are neither iowans nor in states where the primary votes will matter.

That doesn't explain whatsoever why it's a good idea for the political discussion not to be more about the policies of the candidates that who is likely to win.

If the discussion were more about issues, in fact, it'd help reduce the influence of the early primaries and better allow later states to vote differently.

The way it is now, too many voters have little understanding of the politicians' policies, and the politicians are freer to form policies suiting special interests than the public.

After all, the way it is now, the money from those interests that pays for the ads gets more votes than policies the public likes.