One way to get back at wireless thieves

Xyo II

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3 years for stealing wi-fi? That sucks- the fine would have been enough.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: piasabird
I thought the punishment was a bit mild.

A thief is a thief.

Yep. Both the fine and the jail time should be handed down in cases like that.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: piasabird
I thought the punishment was a bit mild.

A thief is a thief.

Yep. Both the fine and the jail time should be handed down in cases like that.

Oh come on... how are you even supposed to know if the network you're on is free access or not? If I leave a network open I expect people to use it - that's what the internet is for. It's like opening an ftp or web server on your computer, and then complaining the users are 'stealing' your bandwidth!

Keep it encrypted if you don't want people to use it.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I don't have anything against punishing leeches, but how long did he do it? There's been times that I've accidentally logged onto other people's wifi just by misreading and not notice until quite a bit later. Would that warrant three years in prison?
 

SoulAssassin

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If you lived on a street where people walked by all the time and you left an open cookie jar filled with cookies outside your house would someone get arrested for taking a cookie? I sure a hell hope not....if you leave your access point open it shouldn't be a crime to use it.
 

uberman

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
If you lived on a street where people walked by all the time and you left an open cookie jar filled with cookies outside your house would someone get arrested for taking a cookie? I sure a hell hope not....if you leave your access point open it shouldn't be a crime to use it.

Well said!!

 

KrillBee

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stealing and wireless internet should not go in the same sentence.

nor should all wireless hijacking crimes be treated the same.
 

compnovice

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Originally posted by: uberman
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
If you lived on a street where people walked by all the time and you left an open cookie jar filled with cookies outside your house would someone get arrested for taking a cookie? I sure a hell hope not....if you leave your access point open it shouldn't be a crime to use it.

Well said!!

The wireless waves entered my house and got into my computer, it just connected in self defence..
 
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That's really odd - I leave my access point un-encrypted because I like sharing wi-fi. Hell, if I'm out I connect to open networks to quickly check my email.... I don't get what the big deal is.Sure, committing crimes on someone else's network deserve punishment, but I hope one day people stop caring and that everyone shares their network.
 

Thraxen

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Couldn't an unencrypted wireless connection be seen as permission? IMO, if a wireless connection has ANY protection, even as simple as WEP or a hidden SSID, then that is a sign to keep out. But if the connection is wide open then that is an invitation to use it.
 

GZeus

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Couldn't an unencrypted wireless connection be seen as permission? IMO, if a wireless connection has ANY protection, even as simple as WEP or a hidden SSID, then that is a sign to keep out. But if the connection is wide open then that is an invitation to use it.

Exactly what I was thinking...
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
http://qdb.us/32920

What a group of LUSER's!!!

It would be interesting to see if using an unsecured wireless connection is a worse crime than the multiple counts of hacking that the person in the link has confessed to.
 

Kaervak

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Couldn't an unencrypted wireless connection be seen as permission? IMO, if a wireless connection has ANY protection, even as simple as WEP or a hidden SSID, then that is a sign to keep out. But if the connection is wide open then that is an invitation to use it.

Just be careful of what may be on the other side of that wide open connection. Just because it's open doesn't mean you should use it.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
http://qdb.us/32920

What a group of LUSER's!!!

It would be interesting to see if using an unsecured wireless connection is a worse crime than the multiple counts of hacking that the person in the link has confessed to.

Multiple... counts... hacking... luser... WTF?! Most likely case is they had an open network share and he just copied some files into it.
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
http://qdb.us/32920

What a group of LUSER's!!!

It would be interesting to see if using an unsecured wireless connection is a worse crime than the multiple counts of hacking that the person in the link has confessed to.

Multiple... counts... hacking... luser... WTF?! Most likely case is they had an open network share and he just copied some files into it.

Use hacking or unauthorized access to a PC if you prefer. We know that the type of behavior that the poster in the original link undertook is illegal in many if not most countries. Whether the people whose PC's where violated by the poster in the original link(POL) broke the law by using a UNSECURED wireless link is a question for the local authorities.

And yes both parties are LUSER's. The POL for whining because they didn't secure their wireless router and it popped up on the list of available networks for others using a wireless NIC. The people who have been using the unsecured wireless network for not securing their shares.

If you don't want others to use your wireless network you secure it.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Oh come on... how are you even supposed to know if the network you're on is free access or not? If I leave a network open I expect people to use it - that's what the internet is for. It's like opening an ftp or web server on your computer, and then complaining the users are 'stealing' your bandwidth!

Keep it encrypted if you don't want people to use it.

We have laws in the country against hacking/stealing.

If you connect to a network that is not yours without explicit permission then you are guilty of a federal crime.

Stop stealing.
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
If you lived on a street where people walked by all the time and you left an open cookie jar filled with cookies outside your house would someone get arrested for taking a cookie? I sure a hell hope not....if you leave your access point open it shouldn't be a crime to use it.

I hope your are just trying to stir the flames.

 

DnetMHZ

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
If you lived on a street where people walked by all the time and you left an open cookie jar filled with cookies outside your house would someone get arrested for taking a cookie? I sure a hell hope not....if you leave your access point open it shouldn't be a crime to use it.

Can you please direct me to said cookie jar, I'm hungry. ;)

Oh and no matter how many times we argue this issue, it's illegal to use someone else's network without permission. End of story. It's like a lot of other things we all do on a daily basis, like speeding, you are ok until you get caught.