one thing that always bothered me about the matrix...

[Saint Michael]

That's interesting, the one thing that always bothered me about The Matrix is how much it sucked.

 

[SlickSnake]

one thing that always bothered me about the matrix...

...was the fact someone actually cared what might actually happen in the Matrix if it was real?

One thing that always bothered me about The Wrath of Kahn...

 

[PingSpike]

For the record, I am aware the the matrix movies are "just movies". I judged them entirely on their merits as such. Live Free or Die Hard was excellent...not because the plot was perfect or anything...but because it knew what it was and didn't try to be anything more.

The Matrix movies tried hard and harder have each movie to be more an epic tale of NeoJesus and a telling story of humanities struggle. What I came for was to see Keanu Reeves kick the sunglasses off the face of a guy wearing a suit...preferably in slow motion after jumping 40ft in the air. In trying to tell its annoying story, the second two movies didn't deliver enough of that for me. THAT is my problem with those movies. Its not ME who is taking those movies to seriously...its the movies themselves.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
For the record, I am aware the the matrix movies are "just movies". I judged them entirely on their merits as such. Live Free or Die Hard was excellent...not because the plot was perfect or anything...but because it knew what it was and didn't try to be anything more.

The Matrix movies tried hard and harder have each movie to be more an epic tale of NeoJesus and a telling story of humanities struggle. What I came for was to see Keanu Reeves kick the sunglasses off the face of a guy wearing a suit...preferably in slow motion after jumping 40ft in the air. In trying to tell its annoying story, the second two movies didn't deliver enough of that for me. THAT is my problem with those movies. Its not ME who is taking those movies to seriously...its the movies themselves.

Nothing wrong with the movies taking themselves seriously. Books do it all the time. Only difference is that movies have to appeal to the masses to be even remotely successful. And the masses are generally dumb. The movie misrepresented itself in the previews. It advertised a hardcore action film when it was really a hell of a lot deeper.

Not that I have a problem with hardcore action movies; or think that people who enjoy said movies are any dumber than anyone else. That said, there's no denying that most action movies don't take much intelligence to follow.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Those movies are pretty retarded, story wise. There are so many retarded things going on in it it would take me all day to list them. They were fun movies, visually exciting...but they dragged on and took themselves way to seriously, specifically the third one. This EMP thing is just a drop in the bucket.

Why didn't the machines use cows for fuel? Or lets say cows were extinct...why didn't they use retards instead? Retards are easier to manage. And lets not even get into how the human body probably isn't even a very efficient mechanism to extract energy to begin with. And why don't the machines put solar collectors above the clouds? The sky was still there in the third movie. Or use geo thermal energy, like the humans in zion?

Why are there no ugly people in zion? Where did the wet naked dancing tradition come from?

The list goes on and on...the story in those movies is just poorly drawn backdrop for what the movies are really about: Cool people in sunglasses and black coats doing impossible jumps and kungfu moves.

First of all.. IT'S A MOVIE! The Matrix Trilogy may have taken itself too seriously but that doesn't mean you have to take it seriously too, that should be fairly obvious with any Sci-Fi movie.

Secondly, the questions you ask can all be answered within the context of the movie as well (except the 'no ugly people in zion' monster head-scratcher :roll I mean give me a break, Cows? Retards? Did you even listen to the explanations in the movie? See, this is why nobody likes the Matrix now, people generalize and nit-pick these stupid little things so the religious symbolism and sophisticated plot go ZOOMING right over their head. So many morons are like "WTF THIS MOVIE SUX" because of the stupid things like the cave-rave or the kissing scene with Neo and Persephone and pretty much blow off taking the movie seriously at that point, you people are weak and lack critical thinking to put it lightly, and your parent's would have been well advised to put you on Ritalin as a child.

As for putting solar panels about the clouds... what are you smoking?!? Just because the machines in this movie are supposed to be so advanced and in control doesn't mean they can circumvent physics and reality of the real world, do you know how fucking high you would have to build something to get over those clouds to make that solution feasible?!? Did you see how high Neo and Trinity were in the ship?? Didn't think so, since no one watched Matrix Revolutions. :roll: Yeah OK, using humans for energy isn't much less of a stretch but that's how the writers decided to go and I'm fine with how they explained and portrayed it. Stick to romantic comedies if all you can see are people in black glasses doing kung-fu.

Again, EVERY movie has questions that can't be answered because none of it ever really happens. It's idiotic debates about 'errr why didn't the machines do this, or that, and why is there a naked dancing ritual anyway' that detract from the overall value. "The sky is still there in the third movie" ooooh you broke the case wide open there, the Wach's must feel like fools for forgetting there was still a sky in the 3rd one.. *sigh* The list goes on and on alright, more people just love taking shots at an interesting story because it was all about special effects and weird little sub-plots. It's not like this was adapted from a novel where everything is laid out for you.

On a side note, I wish more people would see The Animatrix so they can get a better idea of what actually goes on in the Matrix and how it came to be that robots took over.

If its "JUST A MOVIE" then why are you holding it up as some masterpiece of storytelling and acting like I just insulted your wife. Jesus Christ/Neo...calm the fuck down. LOL.