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[Perknose]

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_stoning/?cl=654978953&v=6768

Just got this e-mail. I signed, and am considering a small donation.

Anybody here with me?

Subject: Save Sakineh
Dear Friends,

Yesterday an Iranian woman, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, was saved by global protests from being stoned to death.

But she may still be hanged -- and, meanwhile, execution by stoning continues. Right now fifteen more people are on death row awaiting stoning in which victims are buried up to their necks in the ground and then large rocks are thrown at their heads.

The partial reprieve of Sakineh, triggered by the call from her children for international pressure to save her life, has shown that if enough of us come together and voice our horror, we may be able to save her life, and stop stoning once and for all. Sign the urgent petition now and send it onto everyone you know -- let's end this cruel slaughter NOW!

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_stoning/?vl

Sakineh was convicted of adultery, like all the other 12 women and one of the men awaiting stoning. But her children and lawyer say she is innocent and that she did not get a fair trial -- they state her confession was forced from her and, speaking only Azerbaijani, she did not understand what was being asked of her in court.

Despite Iran's signing of a UN convention that requires the death penalty only be used for the "most serious crimes" and despite the Iranian Parliament passing a law banning stoning last year, stoning for adultery continues.

Sakineh's lawyer says the Iranian government "is afraid of Iranian public reaction and international attention" to the stoning cases. And after Turkey and Britain's Foreign Ministers spoke out against Sakineh's sentence, it was suspended.

Sakineh's brave children are leading the international campaign to save their mother and stop stoning. Massive international condemnation now could finally stop this sickening punishment. Let's join together today across the world to end this brutality. Sign the petition to save Sakineh and end stoning here:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_stoning/?vl

In hope and determination,

Alice, David, Milena, Ben and the whole Avaaz team


SOURCES:

Iranians still facing death by stoning despite 'reprieve', The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/08/iran-death-stoning-adultery

Britain condemns planned Iran stoning as 'medieval', AFP:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hjVdkvkzicGeInqw2R10rCKrqs3A

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[JEDIYoda]

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_stoning/?cl=654978953&v=6768

Just got this e-mail. I signed, and am considering a small donation.

Anybody here with me?

Already donated...that`s a good cause!!

Religion of Peace...lolol

 

[Zebo]

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Never forget that. And unless you are willing to combat competing ideas or values or religion with violence you are spinning your wheels.

What makes what Iranians do wrong? They think we are the fucked up ones letting our women run around like "whores" and their goal is to see their vision of the world wide spread. No Amount of sanction will change their mind. You might save one girl - or , more likely, they kill her on the down low behind closed doors but thousands more are awaiting the gallows for adultry/homosexuality etc etc. Call me when you're ready to get serious I have read from the Generals of old e.g. winners and real hearts and minds changers. not some symbolism move.

 

[Howard]

What makes what Iranians do wrong? They think we are the fucked up ones letting our women run around like "whores" and their goal is to see their vision of the world wide spread.

Even stipulating that this deserves the death penalty (haha, right), what's wrong with just shooting somebody in the head? Doesn't throwing rocks at people smack more of masturbatory brutality rather than any sort of justice?

 

[Zebo]

Even stipulating that this deserves the death penalty (haha, right), what's wrong with just shooting somebody in the head? Doesn't throwing rocks at people smack more of masturbatory brutality rather than any sort of justice?

Your frame of reference is not a Muslim country, as such, you can't understand their mores tenets and atmospherics, you may even find them abominable but they think it's normal perfect justice. There is no right or wrong in absolute sense only locally.

Of course I prefer to fight for system I grew up in as do they. Who wins decides world in which we live. Been like this since forever, men like fighting more than sex.

 

[CanOWorms]

No thanks. This is the organization trying to convince European countries to send "peacekeeping" forces to Africa. They're trying to convince countries with histories of genocides and installation of cannibalistic dictators in Africa to invade.

They should be designated a terrorist organization until they withdraw from this position. Hopefully you haven't given them any money yet. The life of an innocent African is worth more than some self-patting on your back.

 

[Zebo]

No thanks. This is the organization trying to convince European countries to send "peacekeeping" forces to Africa. They're trying to convince countries with histories of genocides and installation of cannibalistic dictators in Africa to invade.

They should be designated a terrorist organization until they withdraw from this position. Hopefully you haven't given them any money yet. The life of an innocent African is worth more than some self-patting on your back.

LOL you just don't like attention being drawn to POS savages that need extermination. Genocide is how you win wars of ideals. Don't hate the player hate the game.

 

[CanOWorms]

LOL you just don't like attention being drawn to POS savages that need extermination. Genocide is how you win wars of ideals. Don't hate the player hate the game.

I prefer taking down the European governments and leaders than genocide.

 

[Zebo]

Sorry, They won't go easy. In fact how we had to do it last time was kill about 12 million Germans and ban their religion. Such is life. If we really want to exercise change in Iran it's the same thing. Always is, always will be.

 

[tcsenter]

Its seems like Iran has come a lot further than tribal Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Turkey. Iran actually requires a confession to adultery. In some other shit holes, a woman's guilt or innocence is proved when she licks (puts her tongue on) a hot iron skillet a certain number of times. If her tongue does not blister, she is "pure" (innocent). If her tongue blisters, she is guilty and stoned to death.

 

[CanOWorms]

Sorry, They won't go easy. In fact how we had to do it last time was kill about 12 million Germans and ban their religion. Such is life. If we really want to exercise change in Iran it's the same thing. Always is, always will be.

We failed that time. They still practice Nazism, just under a different name. In fact, it's spread to other countries in the region.

 

[Howard]

Your frame of reference is not a Muslim country, as such, you can't understand their mores tenets and atmospherics, you may even find them abominable but they think it's normal perfect justice. There is no right or wrong in absolute sense only locally.

Of course I prefer to fight for system I grew up in as do they. Who wins decides world in which we live. Been like this since forever, men like fighting more than sex.

You aren't answering my question.

 

[Zebo]

Its seems like Iran has come a lot further than tribal Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Turkey. Iran actually requires a confession to adultery. In some other shit holes, a woman's guilt or innocence is proved when she licks (puts her tongue on) a hot iron skillet a certain number of times. If her tongue does not blister, she is "pure" (innocent). If her tongue blisters, she is guilty and stoned to death.

Come? no they have regressed.

Iran is not full blown fundi., yet They still have a proud civilization to draw from before Islam and Arab supremism infested the place. Look up Cyrus the Great the first ruler in the world to ban slavery and had extensive human rights similar to today's West! While those other backwaters begin and end with dirt and islam.

 

[Sinsear]

No. Hell no. This is the life these people choose. Religion of peace.

 

[woodie1]

No. Hell no. This is the life these people choose. Religion of peace.

Yep, why stick my nose in their business.

 

[Craig234]

Zebo is the same as a speechwriter for Nazis, justifying 'genocide'.

He says men like fighting more than sex; no, men like peace, animals like him like violence.

This is a good cause, Perknose. People can have fundamentalist tendencies that dehumanize others and justify violence. We used to routinely lynch blacks here, even having it be a 'town gathering' event families can bring the kids to for entertainment. People like Zebo. Hopefully international pressure can help slow the violence and the people will develop out of the fundamentalism, but it's not easy; Zebo is unlike to change.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Zebo

Iran considers it to be Persian, not Arab.

 

[Lemon law]

Perknose may get his vindication, Iran has at least postponed carrying out the sentence.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100711/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_stoning

Perknose was certainly not the only voice stopping stupidity, but he can claim the Anand Tech published first cred. This forum owes Perknose some thanks for alerting us, and hopefully this post will have a final happier ending.

 

[Infohawk]

We failed that time. They still practice Nazism, just under a different name. In fact, it's spread to other countries in the region.

Is CanOWorms bat shit crazy or a really honed troll-machine?
I don't know Perknose, maybe you should try to get your donation to this indisputably valid humanitarian cause back because CanOWorms says Germans are still nazis.

 

[Double Trouble]

The Iranians fundamentalists are screwed in the head, just like the fundies elsewhere. I don't see why it's any of my business though, we have our own nutjobs to deal with before we start worrying about idiots in other countries.