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SuPrEIVIE

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this is my first build the mechbgon guide was useful:)

ok

i have K8VSE deluxe
WD 80GB
nec 2510
3200+

found the solution ofcourse with your help thanks for those who helped

BTW what is NLTDR? it mentioned it before i had the option to boot from CD, if i didn't press any ket to continue to boot from CD it would say "NLTDR is missing" and then tell me to restart?
 

amdskip

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Does the drive show up in the bios as being installed? You might have a cable not quite plugged in or a jumper setting off. A bad cable is also a possibility.
 

SuPrEIVIE

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but it is installed it is shown on the screen and i couldn't be able to open the nec tray if the cable is bad right? oh yeah my nec is on the secondary and the HD is on the primary is that ok?
 

SuPrEIVIE

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ok when im not in the bios when it detects for drives it says none found??and no bios installed?
 

gwai lo

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so..that means that the drive isn't detected?

are they on the same IDE cable? if they are you can't do that, so that might explain things
 

SuPrEIVIE

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no prime is WD80GB and secondary is 2510 so they are seprate and i put in the winxp cd and nothing happens after i exit the bios?
 

SuPrEIVIE

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where would that error be because it just says "no device found!"

and "no bios installed" should an error be illustrated next to these phrases because there was none
 

SuPrEIVIE

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yea i did, i opened it up i read the manual of the HD it said for jumpers on for single drives, that i did not do at first but then i did do it and the same problem anyway goes on
 

SuPrEIVIE

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what do you mean?( i know what cable select means just not sure if those are CS jumpers (they are white colored) can they be removed? these white things ( i guess these are CS which came preinstalled on the HD on the right pins top and bottom) they look like jumpers maybe default...i don't know if you can remove it, also the retail drive as you know come with these blue jumpers that i set for single drive since its alone on the prime, but it still did not work? is it possible should i remove those white colored (jumpers?)on the right are they causing these undetected devices?

thanks for the help!
 

creedog

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More than likely, You either have the jumpers set wrong or the ribbon cable plugged in wrong. If I am reading your hard to read posts correctly your bios is not detecting the botht eh HD and CD. Put them on different ide channels that way the jumper settings wont matter. Also may need to clear the bios but I doubt it.
 

SuPrEIVIE

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Originally posted by: creedog
More than likely, You either have the jumpers set wrong or the ribbon cable plugged in wrong. If I am reading your hard to read posts correctly your bios is not detecting the botht eh HD and CD. Put them on different ide channels that way the jumper settings wont matter. Also may need to clear the bios but I doubt it.

LOL i stated my 80 GB is on prime and the nec is on the secondary channel, and yes jumper settings due matter if you have a single HD on a channel well the WD ones
 

SuPrEIVIE

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maybe that is why because i tried almost everything how do you know or how do you make it bootable?
 

Maximus96

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its bootable if it boots :D i'm not sure how to make a boobtable CD out of WinXP. maybe someone can share, i would love to make a bootable win2000 CD.
 

JaRb0y

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here is how to slipstream and make a bootable xp cd

link

and you're error is most likely due to a not bootable cd
 

mechBgon

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Is the 80GB WD drive a "regular" ATA drive, or is it an SATA drive?

If it's a regular PATA drive, and it has an IDE cable all its own, then make sure that you

1) pull the jumper cap off of its pins and leave it off. This jumpers it in its Single Drive mode.

2) do not plug it into the red horizontally-oriented PATA receptacle on the motherboard. That one's hooked to the Promise SATA controller instead of the motherboard's own ATA controllers. Use the ones that are up higher and vertical.


If it's an SATA drive, then LMK and I'll suggest a solution for that.


Regarding that message about BIOS Not Installed:

The motherboard has a Promise SATA controller on it. The Promise controller will scan its own little self for any drives that are hooked up to its SATA ports or its lone red-colored PATA port. If it doesn't detect any, it'll put up a message saying that it didn't find any drives and therefore it didn't install its BIOS since it has no drives to control, and then it goes back to :moon:. That's normal behavior on its part.