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One dead, one injured in Miami Burger King shooting
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IceBergSLiM
Lifer
People that shoot perps during robberies very rarely get arrested I don't think it had anything at all to do with luck. Lucky that he wasn't fatally wounded maybe.
jlee
Lifer
If you're pointing a gun at me and mine's not out, my day already went real bad. I have a vest. You probably don't. Depending on the situation, I just might take my chances and take you out. I'd rather go down fighting than give up and get shot anyway. It really depends on the specifics of the situation.
Modelworks
Lifer
It could have been a crime if someone else was hit by a stray bullet. He was just lucky that someone wasn't.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
Miami police spokesman Jeff Giordano. "There were a lot of people inside the Burger King, he may have saved lives. It was a brave act."
guess miami police are stupid too.
guess miami police are stupid too.
Ah, but there's the rub - no one knows for sure that was his only intent. Hell, he may not have even known himself what his next step was if he got the cash. Unlike some posters here, I don't think that every CCW holder is itching to pull the trigger, so I like to think that he made a judgment call based upon the situation as it was unfolding. Regardless, what he did has already been deemed as justified by the authorities on scene who have far more details than any of us about the events, so who are we to second guess?
Zenmervolt
Elite member
Depends on the jurisdiction. For example, RCW 9A.16.030 reads, "Homicide is excusable when committed by accident or misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means, without criminal negligence, or without any unlawful intent." This means that, in WA at least, the victim would not be subject to criminal prosecution in the event that a bystander were hit. The victim would still be subject to civil suits, but there would be no criminal charges.
You don't know if he was "lucky" not to hit anyone. For all you know the attacker was standing in the open with a solid backstop behind him and there was no risk to bystanders from the victim's shots.
ZV
And this is why criminals do what they want, because of people w/ attitudes like you. Why not be thankful this man stood up for justice? If criminals thought that the general public (which is just about everywhere) was willing to fight aginst them, and not just the police force (which is never where it needs to be it seems) they would be less likely to commit crimes.
Would you rather get robbed and perhaps pistol whipped, or would you rather about to be robbed and beat but then a stranger stands up for you?
I'm pretty sure this was a repeat criminal, someone doing this out of desperation would (hopefully) not bring a loaded weapon. The sight of a gun is enought o scare most people. Bringing a loaded gun and the gusto to use it, hardened criminal.
ghost recon88
Diamond Member
Bingo! I was searching through this thread hoping someone would make my point. The thing to take out of this, is that it sends a crystal clear message to someone who may be considering a robbery in the future.
*Popcorn*
Amazing the amount of people on here who think cops have all this training to be in a shootout. Maybe they watch too much tv.
Its not often that I see cops anywhere but at a range taking aimed shots at a paper target. Obviously some of them train for these situations, but a lot of them don't even like firearms that much and only shoot enough to qualify. Just last Sunday I was in a private section of a range going through drills. Sprinting across the room, reloading and holstering my weapon, then drawing and shooting at bowling pins with cardboard targets in the background. This included offhand drawing and reloading with my dominant hand tied behind my back. Drills where the lights off and turned on with the "innocent cardboard bystanders" weremoved and I was timed. Shooting from prone, kneeling and from cover.
If someone had been hurt, the charges would have gone with the criminal to his grave aside from possible bullshit lawsuits from the people who had to witness the horrible situation where a felon gets exactly what he deserves. Its this kind of mentality that encourages criminal behavior. The same people who think there shouldn't be high speed pursuits.
EDIT: I see similarities with how scammers and conmen walk around and just see marks everywhere. That is what we are to these low-lives. Just victims.
Amazing the amount of people on here who think cops have all this training to be in a shootout. Maybe they watch too much tv.
Its not often that I see cops anywhere but at a range taking aimed shots at a paper target. Obviously some of them train for these situations, but a lot of them don't even like firearms that much and only shoot enough to qualify. Just last Sunday I was in a private section of a range going through drills. Sprinting across the room, reloading and holstering my weapon, then drawing and shooting at bowling pins with cardboard targets in the background. This included offhand drawing and reloading with my dominant hand tied behind my back. Drills where the lights off and turned on with the "innocent cardboard bystanders" weremoved and I was timed. Shooting from prone, kneeling and from cover.
If someone had been hurt, the charges would have gone with the criminal to his grave aside from possible bullshit lawsuits from the people who had to witness the horrible situation where a felon gets exactly what he deserves. Its this kind of mentality that encourages criminal behavior. The same people who think there shouldn't be high speed pursuits.
EDIT: I see similarities with how scammers and conmen walk around and just see marks everywhere. That is what we are to these low-lives. Just victims.
manowar821
Diamond Member
Fixed, because not all criminals are bad.
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