One common sentiment....both parties suck

[Angry Irishman]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...t-by-61-obama-demand-for-clean-debt-vote.html

 

[boomerang]

I'm not sure when we hit the tipping point but we no longer have the form of government many think we do. The handful in DC that are actually abiding by the wishes of the electorate are being rendered powerless.

It's not going to get better.

 

[fskimospy]

Most Americans don't understand what is at stake here, and if you look at other polls that use different wording such as ones that mention that this is simply paying the check on bills already run up the split is different.

Regardless, part of the job of being a president is doing the right thing even if it is unpopular. Obama created this monster in 2011 when he agreed to negotiate the first time and it is his duty to kill it now before it gets any worse.

 

[Agent11]

I wouldn't say ALL Republicans or Democrats suck, people just have to stay informed and vote out the bad eggs.

 

[Lithium381]

I wouldn't say ALL Republicans or Democrats suck, people just have to stay informed and vote out the bad eggs.

And that involves not watching just a single news source which is likely biased. . . leading to confirmation bias. Also means finding out who the candidates are before election day and showing up and finding the (R) or the (D). . . but that really is a lot to ask for most americans who would rather watch the Kardashians or DWTS!

 

[shadow9d9]

Yes, but nowhere NEAR equally.

 

[Kadarin]

What we have is the illusion of choice where both parties are largely composed of corporatist/statist interests.

 

[sixone]

I'm not sure when we hit the tipping point but we no longer have the form of government many think we do. The handful in DC that are actually abiding by the wishes of the electorate are being rendered powerless.

It's not going to get better.

That IS the wish of the electorate. They don't want the power or the responsibility. They want someone making decisions for them, so that they're free to focus on what kind of TV or mobile device to buy.

 

[Lithium381]

What we have is the illusion of choice where both parties are largely composed of corporatist/statist interests.

Thats operating under the assumption your choices are limited to those two parties. ()

 

[Zaap]

The entire 'ruling class' (how they see themselves, and how far too many subservient sheepish pricks in the population see them as well) completely suck.

They exist to further their own power, to continue transferring larger and larger shares of the national GDP out of the private sector and into their public sector rathole. They want more power over people's lives, and more money. Nothing else. Virtually all pretense otherwise is yet another ruse to achieve those main goals.

Their goal is to live like kings and queens with absolute power, while the subservient serfs worship them, and enslave themselves for them. It's ironic, because those that whine loudest about the private sector doing this with their own money, are the biggest dupes for the ruling class doing the same on an even grander scale with everyone else's money.

The Democrats are clearly just shameless statists- their perfect world would resemble something close to North Korea, with them calling all the shots, most people living like hopeless slobs, but erecting big 'HOPE' monuments to Dear Leader.

The Republicans for the most part just believe in a 'lite' version of the same thing, they just want to be in control of it. The Rep establishment really couldn't care less how huge and out of control the government gets- they want as much control/money/power as the statist Democrats do, just they have a different advertising campaign for the sheeple on how to get there.

 

[Juddog]

What we have is the illusion of choice where both parties are largely composed of corporatist/statist interests.

Bingo. The illusion of choice, when both choices are bad; then polarizing people into being more into one part or another versus the candidate which makes the most sense.

 

[nehalem256]

This is why I don't vote. By voting you are just ensuring that one party wins.

If no one voted then neither party would win.

 

[ivwshane]

This is why I don't vote. By voting you are just ensuring that one party wins.

If no one voted then neither party would win.

Lol!

 

[dud]

I would agree that "our" representatives have failed us. A big part of ANY job is the ability to work together with others and part of that is to give-and-take. Neither party is currently being represented by adults. It is so easy to blame another when we could just as easily point the finger at ourselves.


... an Independent

 

[shadow9d9]

Just more false equivalence. Republicans break records by doubling the amount of fillibusters, fillibustering their own bills, refusing to raise the debt ceiling unless demands are met, refusing to pay the bills unless their demands are met. They are not equal...not even close.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

And lets not bring up science!

 

[compuwiz1]

This is why I don't vote. By voting you are just ensuring that one party wins.

If no one voted then neither party would win.

My kindergarten aged Grandson would probably apply that type of logic. lulz.

Seriously, I think blowing away the two party system might be a good idea, then we'd have to do some research on our candidates to learn about them and could no longer just vote for someone based on party. I doubt that would happen, since about 43% of voters would be either too drugged or brain dead to bother. Hell, over 90% of a demographic voted for Obama for only 1 reason.

 

[boomerang]

My kindergarten aged Grandson would probably apply that type of logic. lulz.

Seriously, I think blowing away the two party system might be a good idea, then we'd have to do some research on our candidates to learn about them and could no longer just vote for someone based on party. I doubt that would happen, since about 43% of voters would be either too drugged or brain dead to bother. Hell, over 90% of a demographic voted for Obama for only 1 reason.

What to do about the media? Their idea of a compelling question is, boxers or briefs?

 

[Wreckem]

I'm not sure when we hit the tipping point but we no longer have the form of government many think we do. The handful in DC that are actually abiding by the wishes of the electorate are being rendered powerless.

It's not going to get better.

You are delusional if you think more than a small part of the electorate actually supports the Tea Party. Based on your other threads its like you think the Tea Party is doing gods work/doing the work of the electorate. No the Tea party and its followers are a tiny minority of the electorate. They seem bigger than they are because they have just enough votes and enough power to be obstructionists that and some of GOP have latched on to them merely to avoid having to face a primary challenger.

 

[boomerang]

You are delusional if you think more than a small part of the electorate actually supports the Tea Party. Based on your other threads its like you think the Tea Party is doing gods work/doing the work of the electorate. No the Tea party and its followers are a tiny minority of the electorate. They seem bigger than they are because they have just enough votes and enough power to be obstructionists that and some of GOP have latched on to them merely to avoid having to face a primary challenger.

Sure, whatever you say.

 

[fskimospy]

Sure, whatever you say.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/164648/tea-party-support-dwindles-near-record-low.aspx

I wouldn't say that 22% is a tiny minority, but it's definitely getting pretty small.

More interestingly, support for the tea party has fallen by about a third over the last few years.

 

[Wreckem]

Sure, whatever you say.

You are clearly delusional if you think the tea party is backed by anywhere near a majority of the electorate. They are a minority of the electorate.

 

[Wreckem]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/164648/tea-party-support-dwindles-near-record-low.aspx

I wouldn't say that 22% is a tiny minority, but it's definitely getting pretty small.

More interestingly, support for the tea party has fallen by about a third over the last few years.

Its marginally more support than Ross Perot had and everyone discredits his support and I do believe his support was called a tiny minority.

The Tea Party does NOT have anywhere near a majority of support. Will never have anywhere near a majority. Nor are they the pulse of the electorate.

 

[Moonbeam]

I would imagine there are large numbers of Republicans right now who are beginning to see that both parties suck. Democrats, not so much. I guess it's just fate that a party gone blithering-insane will eventually lose membership. Fortunately there's always the Libertarian party that offers the guilt free emotional purity of a wasted vote.

 

[BoberFett]

I would imagine there are large numbers of Republicans right now who are beginning to see that both parties suck. Democrats, not so much. I guess it's just fate that a party gone blithering-insane will eventually lose membership. Fortunately there's always the Libertarian party that offers the guilt free emotional purity of a wasted vote.

Does the Libertarian wasted vote cause more or less guilt than the Democrat wasted vote? At least wasting your vote on Libertarians would get you fewer people molesting us at the airport, less spying on Americans, and less blowing up brown people, while wasting your vote on Democrats get you more molestation, spying and death.