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Meghan54

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I realize that, they need to realize that they also are responsible to maintain a safe and reasonable speed. Calling out on your left doesnt absolve them of any possible collision and a granting of right of way.


So, what's a safe and reasonable speed? 3mph, or walking speed? 10mph, which is probably what the cyclists are already doing?

And they're not absolving themselves from possible collisions, they're trying to keep idiots from making stupid moves without looking behind them, sort of like idiots who change lanes without looking first. You're on a path that allows walkers, joggers and cyclists, therefore, it is your responsibility as much as anyone else's to keep accidents from happening.

All the cyclists are trying to do is alert you that you're going to be passed, a courtesy. Believe me, no cyclist wants to shove his carbon fork up your tight ass.
 

olds

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It's just courtesy so you aren't startled or walk into their path. Skiers do it too.

Except us as kids. If you were snow plowing your skis we'd lay back on our skis and shoot between your legs. It was funny how many people would fall with no contact.
 

leftyman

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common courtesy and prevents accidents. Sometimes that cyclist is booking at 9/10ths and if you made a sudden unexplained move like when your dog darts over to a smell everyone's day is ruined.

If something this trivial puts you off I feel sorry for you....

Exactly Im not walking on a closed racing course, the cyclist is riding on a recreational trail, with all sorts of people using the trail.
 

leftyman

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So, what's a safe and reasonable speed? 3mph, or walking speed? 10mph, which is probably what the cyclists are already doing?

And they're not absolving themselves from possible collisions, they're trying to keep idiots from making stupid moves without looking behind them, sort of like idiots who change lanes without looking first. You're on a path that allows walkers, joggers and cyclists, therefore, it is your responsibility as much as anyone else's to keep accidents from happening.

All the cyclists are trying to do is alert you that you're going to be passed, a courtesy. Believe me, no cyclist wants to shove his carbon fork up your tight ass.

Wanna go 40mph? go on a road.
 

Meghan54

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Exactly Im not walking on a closed racing course, the cyclist is riding on a recreational trail, with all sorts of people using the trail.


Right....you choose to walk on a trail that's got cyclists allowed on it. They're trying to avoid accidents.

If it upsets you so much, I see only two alternatives, either quit walking there or get who is allowed to use the trail changed....good luck with the latter.
 

Meghan54

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Wanna go 40mph? go on a road.


Butthead, no one is going 40mph. Shit, Tour riders in a pack don't get 40mph except in rare circumstances.

The average cyclist can barely maintain 15mph. 20mph is fast for them.
 

dougp

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Most cyclists will be going 15-25mph on those trails, and slowing down is a complete PITA considering how many pedestrians they are passing.

Put that walking stick into some guys spokes, and you will be in for a world of hurt. You'll be paying their medical bills and the repairs on their bike. And if you think $800 is an expensive bike, wait until you see the cost of a mid-range wheel set.
 

leftyman

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Right....you choose to walk on a trail that's got cyclists allowed on it. They're trying to avoid accidents.

If it upsets you so much, I see only two alternatives, either quit walking there or get who is allowed to use the trail changed....good luck with the latter.

yelling out "on your left" while riding full out isnt trying to avoid an accident, its placing the responsibility of avoiding an accident on the walker.
 

highland145

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yelling out "on your left" while riding full out isnt trying to avoid an accident, its placing the responsibility of avoiding an accident on the walker.
No. It telling the walker to not pull a "squirrel" and dart to the left.

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leftyman

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Most cyclists will be going 15-25mph on those trails, and slowing down is a complete PITA considering how many pedestrians they are passing.

Put that walking stick into some guys spokes, and you will be in for a world of hurt. You'll be paying their medical bills and the repairs on their bike. And if you think $800 is an expensive bike, wait until you see the cost of a mid-range wheel set.

Too bad, if you really are concerned about avoiding an accident, this is the primary thing you should do.
 

Meghan54

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And I must say, OP, that your lack of skill in determining ground speed is only trumped by your complete lack of tolerance of anything you don't understand or like.
 

leftyman

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And I must say, OP, that your lack of skill in determining ground speed is only trumped by your complete lack of tolerance of anything you don't understand or like.

I fully understand what the cyclists are doing, and go stand next to a highway and show me your radar detector skills.
 

Meghan54

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Put that walking stick into some guys spokes, and you will be in for a world of hurt.


Hope the OP is independently wealthy. Doing what he suggested will end up costing him dearly, monetarily. And I doubt he'll just run away.....can't outrun a cyclist.
 

leftyman

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Hope the OP is independently wealthy. Doing what he suggested will end up costing him dearly, monetarily. And I doubt he'll just run away.....can't outrun a cyclist.

Running into me while riding your bike will get you the same result.
 

Blackjack200

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Butthead, no one is going 40mph. Shit, Tour riders in a pack don't get 40mph except in rare circumstances.

The average cyclist can barely maintain 15mph. 20mph is fast for them.

Pro peloton speeds are around 30 MPH on paved roads, LMAO at this guy thinking some dude on the towpath is going 40 MPH.

He probably thinks his 4 MPH jog speed is 12 to 15 MPH.
 

dougp

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Too bad, if you really are concerned about avoiding an accident, this is the primary thing you should do.

They're following the rules.

You're not.

They're the ones doing what they can to avoid the accident, you aren't. You're looking to cause bodily harm, not them.

You're just stupid. I've passed countless pedestrians and I've never heard a word about me going my pace.
 

leftyman

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Pro peloton speeds are around 30 MPH on paved roads, LMAO at this guy thinking some dude on the towpath is going 40 MPH.

He probably thinks his 4 MPH jog speed is 12 to 15 MPH.

I run between 6-7 miles per hr on my distance runs.
 

AstroManLuca

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Yes you are one of the asswipes Im referring to.

Actually when I pass walkers/runners on the bike path, I usually forget to call out "on your left" and just pass them, unless they are crowding me or there's someone coming. And if there's any reason for me to be cautious, I do slow down at least a bit and I will call out so they know I'm there.

Most runners are courteous but you always have a few groups who like to run 3-across and hog the trail. Same with cyclists.

All I'm getting from this thread is you hate it when people are careful and prefer them to be careless.
 

Uppsala9496

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As mentioned, it is a common courtesy to inform you that someone is passing you so that you don't freak out and cause an accident.
This is especially important if you are walking a dog, because the dog is not going to know to stay on the right side of the trail. People always leave a long lead on the leash and the last thing the cyclist wants is an accident.

You would rather the cyclist not say anything and surprise you as they go past?
 

EMPshockwave82

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On my mountain bike when I go riding I have a "rule" that I go over bridges at 20mph. My speedometer is clocked correctly and has been tested.

I'm not saying 40mph is correct as they are probably a lot closer to 25mph when they pass the OP but it feels pretty damn fast when you fly by someone.


That being said: OP, stay to the right like you are doing. When a cyclist says "on your left" keep knowing you are correct when it is a warning they are about to fly by. Realize this is an OK thing they are doing and you're just upset for nothing. I will gladly buzz your tower at 25mph if I was to ever see you on a recreational trail and wouldn't think anything of it unless your dumb ass tried to hit me with that "walking stick." In which case you'd look pretty funny trying to walk home with it sticking up your ass.
 

leftyman

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Actually when I pass walkers/runners on the bike path, I usually forget to call out "on your left" and just pass them, unless they are crowding me or there's someone coming. And if there's any reason for me to be cautious, I do slow down at least a bit and I will call out so they know I'm there.

Most runners are courteous but you always have a few groups who like to run 3-across and hog the trail. Same with cyclists.

All I'm getting from this thread is you hate it when people are careful and prefer them to be careless.

I agree with you, calling out "on your left" when I am already on the right and not in your way is useless and annoying after hearing it 15 times in a couple of hours.