On why liberals are socialists

[Smoblikat]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2272791

Aforementioned thread

 

[lotus503]

Most everyone in the USA promotes socialism to some extent, our two major parties are huge socialists. They simply take a different stance on what kind of socialism they want. "Conservative" "Liberal" "left" "right" all to distract you from that one key point.

Spot on again!! I seriously think you are one of the only people that gets it around here.

 

[Moonbeam]

Conservatives don't understand liberals and liberals don't understand themselves, although conservatives understand themselves and liberals better than liberals do. So what I am going to say is maybe going to be a bit of a tough sell.

Liberals base their morality on stealing from those that have to give to those that are too lazy to get. Conservatives base their morality on personal responsibility, but they have some key issues of withholding certain freedoms (drugs, sex, etc....)

3. In holding wealth, they have an inability to comprehend that its possible for someone to work hard and earn money. To them, anyone richer than they are are evil pigs and need to have wealth stripped away from them.

4. Sensitivity, Liberals are well known for squirming around to try and not hurt anyones feelings. This is most evident in todays administration where everyone is afraid to talk bad about islam. Liberals are always "politically correct", but I ask you this, if being politically correct was truly correct, why do we put a modifier in front of correct? It would be just correct if it was actually correct.

5. Rights, this area has been molested thoroughly by both sides, but the liberals want to take away our first amendment rights, in the form of silencing anti-islam speech or the patriot acts, they also want to take away our gun rights. A delicious quote I heard that I dont know from where reads "Gun control defined - The notion that those willing to ignore laws against murder, rape, theft, and kidnapping will follow a law that says they arent allowed to own a firearm". This is completely true, and any gun control is complete BS. If the government wasnt such a POS it would have nothing to fear letting citizens carry large weapons.

The first two moral foundations are called sympathizing, morality for the lazy and stupid, and the last one fear, because they fear the masses will wake up and see the farm..

So what we see then, is that it is really liberals who have a moral that concerns itself with community relationships. They are the real communists. Conservatives are all about the individual, community be damned. Their moral field of vision does not take it in.

In the end both parties are out for themselves and dont give two shits about their sheeple. Libertarian is the only way to go.

I just discovered this thread. It makes me laugh. You made all this shit up reacting to my thread? What reaction did you have? Do you realize that while you made up all this rubbish out of your head, mine was all based on scientific research, known facts about conservative and liberal moral positions. Be so good, if you will, to paraphrase what I really said, if you can.

 

[Moonbeam]

Most everyone in the USA promotes socialism to some extent, our two major parties are huge socialists. They simply take a different stance on what kind of socialism they want. "Conservative" "Liberal" "left" "right" all to distract you from that one key point.

Which party is it that is delusional about this? Liberals are concerned with fairness and justice in particular, and more that conservatives are, all protections of the individual against the state. They don't care so much about all the moral features of conservatives that see the individual's obligation to the state. They don't go in for hierarchal worship, patriotism, religious authority, etc. the kinds of things that prevent chaos and lawlessness, the kind of thinking liberals lack and fail to factor in bringing down all their Utopian dreams.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Immitation is, after all, the highest form of flattery.

Unless of course you are a 10 ton rock immitating a pebble, in which case you get flattened.

 

[umbrella39]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2272791

Aforementioned thread

Thanks.