On the question of party affiliation.

[Moonbeam]

Humanity is evolving. Every day new scientific discoveries push back the curtain of darkness that man has explained away subjectively and attempted to conserve since the beginning of time. In our own country those regions in which old ideas, the red states, are most roiled by the acceleration of change and are most reactive and in active denial, have slowed the pendulum nature of this advance. But nothing can stop human cultural evolution and liberality will always win. It wins simply by becoming tomorrows conservatism. The choice I think one needs to make is not between candidates of the left or the right, but whether one is a propellant or a drag. What is the genes or elsewhere makes one an explorer and the next timid and afraid of change. Why does one chimp wander and the next cling to Mom.

Would you be offended if the party you chose wasn't because you are intelligent but because of your genes?

 

[LordMagnusKain]

I watched a lot of television programs about the environment, the plight of the poor, and ?children?s rights? when I was young, on nickelodeon and PBS. I was well informed for an 8 year old and captain planet helped enforce my leftists views. I felt bad for the spotted owls and didn?t understand why people would work to destroy what employs them by clear-cutting the forests.

Then, at the age of about 12, while I played risk alone in my room, I listened to the Rush Limbaugh show. He said that cutting trees helped prevent forest fires, and that many of forests that are clear-cut are re-planted so they can be harvested again in the future. He also said that the spotted owls that I felt so bad for had learned to nest in the K in K-Mart, meaning that the special trees they needed to live in was total misinformation. A few years later the republicans took congress.

I decided from then on that I?d no longer let emotion drive my conclusions, but rather agree with whatever side had the most utilitarian point of view. I liked closing off Anwar to oil exploration because we could still use our might to exploit oil out of other countries and I liked the idea of cutting led out of gas, I liked the idea of helping the poor get out of that situation so they could add more to society, and I liked the idea of a faith that you could live by that had functional application for better life.

I?ll still side with whatever side makes me the best utilitarian argument, but I still keep on getting the same bleeding heart crap from the left and appeals to utility from the right.

Though the right does have some emotional issues, immigration being one of them, I believe that bush?s strong moderate leadership has brought our party to a place that it should be able to move into a more enlightened utilitarian view on the subject.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Then, at the age of about 12, while I played risk alone in my room, I listened to the Rush Limbaugh show. He said that cutting trees helped prevent forest fires, and that many of forests that are clear-cut are re-planted so they can be harvested again in the future. He also said that the spotted owls that I felt so bad for had learned to nest in the K in K-Mart, meaning that the special tree?s they needed to live in was a total lie.

The notion that your political views are fueled by those of Limbaugh's ilk is not surprising in the least.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Then, at the age of about 12, while I played risk alone in my room, I listened to the Rush Limbaugh show. He said that cutting trees helped prevent forest fires, and that many of forests that are clear-cut are re-planted so they can be harvested again in the future. He also said that the spotted owls that I felt so bad for had learned to nest in the K in K-Mart, meaning that the special tree?s they needed to live in was a total lie.

The notion that your political views are fueled by those of Limbaugh's ilk is not surprising in the least.

What can I say I?m a sucker for utilitarian arguments.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Then, at the age of about 12, while I played risk alone in my room, I listened to the Rush Limbaugh show. He said that cutting trees helped prevent forest fires, and that many of forests that are clear-cut are re-planted so they can be harvested again in the future. He also said that the spotted owls that I felt so bad for had learned to nest in the K in K-Mart, meaning that the special tree?s they needed to live in was a total lie.

The notion that your political views are fueled by those of Limbaugh's ilk is not surprising in the least.

What can I say I?m a sucker for short sighted arguments.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Moonbeam]

Human beings are constantly caught in an internal debate between what they want and what they believe is right. There are also plenty of people who have made a decision as to what voice they will listen to. Unfortunately, those who chose to listen to conscience can be very inconvenient for those who have no conscience as to how they make money. Smart people have always known that in the dynamic of making internal decisions people are subject to a particular form of influence. They want what they want but they want what they want to be right but they still want what they want anyway. If you can just convince them that there are reasons out there, reasons they may not really comprehend and will actually prefer not to examine too closely, that what they want is right, you can successfully silence their nagging conscience.

Politics and political manipulation is all about doing people's thinking for them. Convincing them that utility is what they want rather that what requires sacrifice of desire. Limbaugh and his ilk are their to make mindless people believe that piggishness is good. It is good indeed for many mercantile interests.

The mites have a great old time consuming the cheese till the day it collapses.