On Socialism and Nazis

[whm1974]

well, it's taj. once you get used to wetting the bed due to nightly phantom terrors predicated by daily agitprop, any further demands on your general anxiety (from the others!) are outright torture.

Then taj should grow up. Seriously, if I say something that is not even close to reality I fully expect other people to call me out on it, And I also expect that everyone has different viewpoints.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

That explains a lot. And how in Hell is being asked for actual evidence is the same as being violently intimidated and thrown in jail?

What I actually said "Who is it that wants to use the power of the Government to jail dissenters of scientific theories? The left." Read the article about a sitting House member calling for using RICO against climate dissenters. It just isn't that hard.
http://www.newsweek.com/should-climate-change-deniers-be-prosecuted-378652

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Then taj should grow up. Seriously, if I say something that is not even close to reality I fully expect other people to call me out on it, And I also expect that everyone has different viewpoints.

Read what I said, not what the liars are claiming I said.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

No. the point was that conservatives such as yourself. Like to make up pseudo intellectual bullshit that somehow links the far right ideology of nazism to the political left and the reason that you do this is due to the fact that you cannot accept that dangerous extremists such as jeff vote trump.

And that trump has empowered these extremists who have carried out multiple terrorist attacks on US soil. Which have killed US citizens. Furthermore conservatives like you would rather reinvent reality.

Than acknowledge that you have a serious problem with racist terrorists who glorify a genocidal ideology supporting the republican party. 🙂

In Milan people can be fined for not smiling. What about freedom?

Sorry, but by their actions you can judge them and by the actions of the left you can see they are the ones promoting and carrying out violent attacks and riots here in the United States.

 

[Victorian Gray]

And "Dances with Fascists" continues to plumb the depths of the cesspit in his search for the perfect turd.

Sorry, but by their actions you can judge them and by the actions of the left you can see they are the ones promoting and carrying out violent attacks and riots here in the United States.

 

[urvile]

Sorry, but by their actions you can judge them and by the actions of the left you can see they are the ones promoting and carrying out violent attacks and riots here in the United States.

There is no need to apologise. Even though you are a pseudointellectual, revisionist tosser. I can see you are just going to keep on reinventing reality and you still seem to be missing the point. I will bold the relevant parts.

the point was that conservatives such as yourself. Like to make up pseudo intellectual bullshit that somehow links the far right ideology of nazism to the political left and the reason that you do this is due to the fact that you cannot accept that dangerous extremists such as jeff vote trump.

(This is jeff leader of the largest neo-nazi organisation in the US the national socialist movement and he votes trump. He also wants to send jews off to extermination camps)

And that trump has empowered these extremists who have carried out multiple terrorist attacks on US soil. Which have killed US citizens. Furthermore conservatives like you would rather reinvent reality.

Than acknowledge that you have a serious problem with racist terrorists who glorify a genocidal ideology supporting the republican party.

You do realise that your posts are proving my point right? Of course not. You are far too brainwashed for that. You, john connor, brandonbull, boomerang et. al. should start a private thread. Where you can all re-write the history of the nazi party with no objections.

It would be a conversation for the ages.

 

[Commodus]

Sorry, but by their actions you can judge them and by the actions of the left you can see they are the ones promoting and carrying out violent attacks and riots here in the United States.

Hey, quick question: what side of the political spectrum was the man in Charlottesville who ran protesters over with a car, again? Or the ones who shot at protesters in Florida? Or how about the ones who shout "heil Trump" and would genuinely be happy if all non-white Americans were deported or killed? Hint: none of them are on the left.

 

[urvile]

Hey, quick question: what side of the political spectrum was the man in Charlottesville who ran protesters over with a car, again? Or the ones who shot at protesters in Florida? Or how about the ones who shout "heil Trump" and would genuinely be happy if all non-white Americans were deported or killed? Hint: none of them are on the left.

Now. Now. That's what fake news and revising history is for. In guys like the intrepid tajmahals mind it never happened or better yet it was actually the socialist bogeyman that did it. Did you know that since 9/11 right wing terrorists have killed more people than any other group in the US? including jihadist groups?* But hang on the nazi party's acronym has socialist in it...therefore it was hillary clinton driving that car in charlottesville and bernie sanders was riding shotgun. It all makes sense if you are a deluded, history revising, pseudo-intellectual fuckwit apparently.

*This information is all readily available from reputable sources on the internet. Get into it.

 

[whm1974]

Now. Now. That's what fake news and revising history is for. In guys like the intrepid tajmahals mind it never happened or better yet it was actually the socialist bogeyman that did it. Did you know that since 9/11 right wing terrorists have killed more people than any other group in the US? including jihadist groups?* But hang on the nazi party's acronym has socialist in it...therefore it was hillary clinton driving that car in charlottesville and bernie sanders was riding shotgun. It all makes sense if you are a deluded, history revising, pseudo-intellectual fuckwit apparently.

*This information is all readily available from reputable sources on the internet. Get into it.

Socialism can be left wing or right wing. The current right wingers are so far to the right that moderates look like leftist to those guys.

 

[urvile]

Socialism can be left wing or right wing. The current right wingers are so far to the right that moderates look like leftist to those guys.

Yeah. I suppose it could be confusing......stalin certainly had right wing tendencies. Sometimes it's easy to get confused over who stands for what I guess but within the context that that these idiots are using the word socialist. 🙂 The nazis and hitler were not socialists and the stupidity of it offends me.

 

[whm1974]

Yeah. I suppose it could be confusing......stalin certainly had right wing tendencies. Sometimes it's easy to get confused over who stands for what I guess but within the context that that these idiots are using the word socialist. 🙂 The nazis and hitler were not socialists and the stupidity of it offends me.

Personally I could care less about the ideologically(or religion) of whoever wants to put large numbers of people up against the wall who happens to disagree with them even on minor points.

 

[urvile]

Personally I could care less about the ideologically(or religion) of whoever wants to put large numbers of people up against the wall who happens to disagree with them even on minor points.

Good for you.

 

[twjr]

Yeah. I suppose it could be confusing......stalin certainly had right wing tendencies. Sometimes it's easy to get confused over who stands for what I guess but within the context that that these idiots are using the word socialist. 🙂 The nazis and hitler were not socialists and the stupidity of it offends me.

The Nazis are hardly alone in their use of linguistic gymnastics. Our own conservative party has the lovely oxymoron the Liberal-National Party.

Ideologies and ideologues love twisting languages almost as much as they love twisting reality.

 

[urvile]

The Nazis are hardly alone in their use of linguistic gymnastics. Our own conservative party has the lovely oxymoron the Liberal-National Party.

Ideologies and ideologues love twisting languages almost as much as they love twisting reality.

Well as someone mentioned earlier there is also the democratic people's republic of korea aka north korea. I think we should just acknowledge that all political ideologies are exactly the same from far right socialists 🙂 to far left neo nazis. I also think that US conservatives need to identify the root cause of their need to equate far right neo nazis with the political left. What's underlying their inability to acknowledge both the republican party and trumps association with far right neo nazi extremists?

Ah semantics. Context can be so important. It's brilliant when you think about it. It makes the feeble minded go around in circles.

 

[interchange]

This thread should not engender serious political discussion. The pillars of Naziism are eugenics and absolute righteousness of the state. This is the same as the pillars of Trumpism. These pillars are corrupt and based on dangerous omnipotent fantasy. That they are rationalized under some political ideology should not lead us to believe they are emanated from or justified by it. There is no secret that American white supremacists align themselves with the Republican party and openly operate specifically under Trump's regime. And there is no secret that Trump has absolutely failed to extricate resurgent white nationalism.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Bullshit, you claim this neo-nazi asshole is rabidly anti-semitic and yet Donald Trump's grandchildren are Jewish, as is his daughter and son-in-law. So go fuck off you God damned lefty fluffer. You just hate the idea that conservatives and Republicans actually speak up against your type of pro-violence rhetoric. You're the one posting pictures of the guy, you're the one worshipping at his feet.

There is no need to apologise. Even though you are a pseudointellectual, revisionist tosser. I can see you are just going to keep on reinventing reality and you still seem to be missing the point. I will bold the relevant parts.

the point was that conservatives such as yourself. Like to make up pseudo intellectual bullshit that somehow links the far right ideology of nazism to the political left and the reason that you do this is due to the fact that you cannot accept that dangerous extremists such as jeff vote trump.

(This is jeff leader of the largest neo-nazi organisation in the US the national socialist movement and he votes trump. He also wants to send jews off to extermination camps)

And that trump has empowered these extremists who have carried out multiple terrorist attacks on US soil. Which have killed US citizens. Furthermore conservatives like you would rather reinvent reality.

Than acknowledge that you have a serious problem with racist terrorists who glorify a genocidal ideology supporting the republican party.

You do realise that your posts are proving my point right? Of course not. You are far too brainwashed for that. You, john connor, brandonbull, boomerang et. al. should start a private thread. Where you can all re-write the history of the nazi party with no objections.

It would be a conversation for the ages.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Hey, quick question: what side of the political spectrum was the man in Charlottesville who ran protesters over with a car, again? Or the ones who shot at protesters in Florida? Or how about the ones who shout "heil Trump" and would genuinely be happy if all non-white Americans were deported or killed? Hint: none of them are on the left.

He was a damned neo-nazi asshole and at the time i stated clearly he should be tried, found guilty and executed for his actions. I don't put up with violence as a political action in this country from anyone. Too bad you can't say the same.

 

[repoman0]

Bullshit, you claim this neo-nazi asshole is rabidly anti-semitic and yet Donald Trump's grandchildren are Jewish, as is his daughter and son-in-law. So go fuck off you God damned lefty fluffer. You just hate the idea that conservatives and Republicans actually speak up against your type of pro-violence rhetoric. You're the one posting pictures of the guy, you're the one worshipping at his feet.

LOL you poor triggered angry dunce. Strange that you vote for violent assholes as your political voices if this was actually the case. But hey, "no puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!" has worked before.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/donald-trump-nevada-rally-punch/index.html

http://www.npr.org/2017/05/24/52986...orter-shakes-up-montana-race-on-eve-of-voting

I guess I could waste my time coming up with a hundred more, but educating idiots is not my job.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

LOL you poor triggered angry dunce. Strange that you vote for violent assholes as your political voices if this was actually the case. But hey, "no puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet!" has worked before.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/donald-trump-nevada-rally-punch/index.html

http://www.npr.org/2017/05/24/52986...orter-shakes-up-montana-race-on-eve-of-voting

I guess I could waste my time coming up with a hundred more, but educating idiots is not my job.

Nope, being an idiot is your job and you do it well. Congratulations.

 

[Commodus]

He was a damned neo-nazi asshole and at the time i stated clearly he should be tried, found guilty and executed for his actions. I don't put up with violence as a political action in this country from anyone. Too bad you can't say the same.

And what side of the political spectrum do neo-Nazis skew toward? Second hint: it's not the left.

I can in fact say the same. I don't think Antifa or any group should start violence. But here's the thing: equivocating Antifa with neo-Nazis is and will always be wrong. The former is using bad methods to fight fascism; the latter is fascism. Our energy must be primarily focused on opposing fascism and racism, as they're always evil even if they protest peacefully. And importantly, it's neo-Nazis that see Trump as their hero and receive his tacit support through his reluctance to condemn their views.

 

[repoman0]

Nope, being an idiot is your job and you do it well. Congratulations.

"No idiot, no idiot, you're the idiot!"

Good work, dunce boy. You've managed to use a schoolyard argument tactic on the internet. Your family must be proud.

 

[brycejones]

"No idiot, no idiot, you're the idiot!"

Good work, dunce boy. You've managed to use a schoolyard argument tactic on the internet. Your family must be proud.

Tajbot's creator isn't a very gifted developer.

 

[woolfe9998]

From response #3

"Fascism is government contro
Take a good look at the other policies that Hitler imposed on his people that we never hear about. Hitler always talked about what was best for the common good or the "people," not the individual. He put regulations on smoking and even on soda consumption. Not to mention his hate for Jewish Capitalism."

Who are the violently inclined in this day and age against Israel in particular and Jewish interests? It's certainly not the right or this President. It's the left.
Who is it that is violently shutting down debate? The left. Who is it that uses violence and intimidation against political opponents ? The left. Who is it that wants to use the power of the Government to jail dissenters of scientific theories? The left.
If it looks like a nazi, quacks like a nazi and smells like a nazi? It's a left winger.

After taking power, Hitler disbanded the trade unions and banned striking. And, after cozying up to the industrialists for help with war production, he executed the remaining socialists in the party on June 30, 1934 in order to appease said industrialists.

He killed the parties' socialists and disbanded the unions, but hey, he "put regulations on smoking" so I guess we can say he was a socialist, right?

Your source is at best selective in its presentation of facts.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

After taking power, Hitler disbanded the trade unions and banned striking. And, after cozying up to the industrialists for help with war production, he executed the remaining socialists in the party on June 30, 1934 in order to appease said industrialists.

He killed the parties' socialists and disbanded the unions, but hey, he "put regulations on smoking" so I guess we can say he was a socialist, right?

Your source is at best selective in its presentation of facts.

Pretty accurate, but he needed full control, full authoritarian control to push his war plans. The same type of control with forcible shutdown of dissent that the left are pushing for.

 

[Commodus]

Pretty accurate, but he needed full control, full authoritarian control to push his war plans. The same type of control with forcible shutdown of dissent that the left are pushing for.

We're fine with dissent. We actually respect this concept called democracy; we oppose neo-Nazis and others whose ultimate goal is to suppress it. Meanwhile, Trump is wondering why he can't shut down NBC for presenting stories he doesn't like, but you don't have any problem with that, do you?