On "Moral Values," It's Blue in a Landslide

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imported_Condor

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Despite all the hyperbole, the voters simply voted against Kerry. It seems that everyone would like to tag the loss to moral values so that they can grasp some high ground in a flood. It was simply the candidate that the DNC picked that lost them the election. Figure out why they chose a moron with a terrible record and you may get near the truth. Throwing darts at so called Evangelicals and proclaiming that the left is really gaining ground despite the election results is just fogging dismal miss-management and an absolute inability of Democratic leadership to read the tealeaves. What they do best is find the banks deposit slot on really dark nights with the fruits of their rabble-rousing leadership. Your party leadership made you all look like morons, get over it! Of course, that made all of us neocons feel much better about ourselves! Your whining just makes the victory sweeter!
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Condor
Despite all the hyperbole, the voters simply voted against Kerry. It seems that everyone would like to tag the loss to moral values so that they can grasp some high ground in a flood. It was simply the candidate that the DNC picked that lost them the election. Figure out why they chose a moron with a terrible record and you may get near the truth. Throwing darts at so called Evangelicals and proclaiming that the left is really gaining ground despite the election results is just fogging dismal miss-management and an absolute inability of Democratic leadership to read the tealeaves. What they do best is find the banks deposit slot on really dark nights with the fruits of their rabble-rousing leadership. Your party leadership made you all look like morons, get over it! Of course, that made all of us neocons feel much better about ourselves! Your whining just makes the victory sweeter!

Yeah the Democrats mistakenly figured that somebody like Kerry could defeat an incompetent Hand Puppet like Dub. Hopefully they will learn from their mistake and Nominate a Moderate Southern Candidate next time instead of a Northeastern Liberal.
 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Tom
"moral values"=fear/loathing of gays. That's about the extent of it.

It may be hard for you to grasp (and what isn't?) but most Americans could give a tinkers damn about gays! Support them above other groups - No, why would anyone do that? Live in a neighborhood with them, who would know or even care? Work with them - been doing that for years, they are mostly good that way. Give them rights to marry. Having been married for 35 years, I can't even imagine why they would want to do that! Do they think that divorce courts, run away dads and the marriage tax are cultural essentials? Do you really think that enough Americans care to have elected a President based on some feeling about Gays? What is that white powder you put into your cereal in the mornings?

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Condor
Despite all the hyperbole, the voters simply voted against Kerry. It seems that everyone would like to tag the loss to moral values so that they can grasp some high ground in a flood. It was simply the candidate that the DNC picked that lost them the election. Figure out why they chose a moron with a terrible record and you may get near the truth. Throwing darts at so called Evangelicals and proclaiming that the left is really gaining ground despite the election results is just fogging dismal miss-management and an absolute inability of Democratic leadership to read the tealeaves. What they do best is find the banks deposit slot on really dark nights with the fruits of their rabble-rousing leadership. Your party leadership made you all look like morons, get over it! Of course, that made all of us neocons feel much better about ourselves! Your whining just makes the victory sweeter!

Yeah the Democrats mistakenly figured that somebody like Kerry could defeat an incompetent Hand Puppet like Dub. Hopefully they will learn from their mistake and Nominate a Moderate Southern Candidate next time instead of a Northeastern Liberal.


I think that is as near the truth as anyone will ever get in this election year.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Condor
Do you really think that enough Americans care to have elected a President based on some feeling about Gays?
Just the Religious Lunatics.

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Condor
Do you really think that enough Americans care to have elected a President based on some feeling about Gays?
Just the Religious Lunatics.

Trust me, there just isn't enough of them to have elected a President despite all the BS coming from the left. Preachers ahve been whinning about church attendance for two decades. There are pockets of really churchy people in the southeast and midwest, but the head count wouldn't elect a President, maybe a govenor, but not a President. This election was all about the quality of John Kerry.

 

skace

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Originally posted by: Condor
It may be hard for you to grasp (and what isn't?) but most Americans could give a tinkers damn about gays! Support them above other groups - No, why would anyone do that? Live in a neighborhood with them, who would know or even care? Work with them - been doing that for years, they are mostly good that way. Give them rights to marry. Having been married for 35 years, I can't even imagine why they would want to do that! Do they think that divorce courts, run away dads and the marriage tax are cultural essentials? Do you really think that enough Americans care to have elected a President based on some feeling about Gays? What is that white powder you put into your cereal in the mornings?

Read some posts from your fellow neocons and you'd understand that there are a good number that do not think like you do.

As for the original post. It is more of a simple reminder to Liberals not to give up hope and that even in the darkest times, we are still making progress, as a society, to be more equal and open.
 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: Condor
It may be hard for you to grasp (and what isn't?) but most Americans could give a tinkers damn about gays! Support them above other groups - No, why would anyone do that? Live in a neighborhood with them, who would know or even care? Work with them - been doing that for years, they are mostly good that way. Give them rights to marry. Having been married for 35 years, I can't even imagine why they would want to do that! Do they think that divorce courts, run away dads and the marriage tax are cultural essentials? Do you really think that enough Americans care to have elected a President based on some feeling about Gays? What is that white powder you put into your cereal in the mornings?

Read some posts from your fellow neocons and you'd understand that there are a good number that do not think like you do.

As for the original post. It is more of a simple reminder to Liberals not to give up hope and that even in the darkest times, we are still making progress, as a society, to be more equal and open.

You have to keep in mind that the posters here definately do not represent mainstream America. Most Americans simply wouldn't waste their time at a computer desk. These are some very focused people who appear to be missing any other, more exciting hobby. That includes me, but I figure it is temporary in my case. I don't think InfoHawk will ever get a life. There is a chance for most of the others of us. I think I have a lot of neighbors that wouldn't even really know what a gay is and they all voted against Kerry.

 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Condor
You have to keep in mind that the posters here definately do not represent mainstream America. Most Americans simply wouldn't waste their time at a computer desk. These are some very focused people who appear to be missing any other, more exciting hobby. That includes me, but I figure it is temporary in my case. I don't think InfoHawk will ever get a life. There is a chance for most of the others of us. I think I have a lot of neighbors that wouldn't even really know what a gay is and they all voted against Kerry.



There are those values again, bashing someone who wasn't even in the thread... Sorry I traumatized you Condor. LOL.