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On-court payback left ballplayer unconscious

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: DaShen
LOL. Are you kidding me? Yes, it is a real fight, but there was nothing that warranted a beat down in a school basketball game. It is ludicrous to think otherwise. If anything a swing would have had him ejected from the game, but the fact that he kept hitting the kid even after the point that the kid was knocked out warrants an arrest and prosecution.

Also, yes people who play ball in general will talk smack, but it is also true that it is almost expected to talk smack when playing sports and basketball with friends when you are black.

No I am not kidding. How do any of know what caused this?

For all we know the kid did something and perhaps the time to handle it was when you found him.

Dude, I seriously never knew talking smack in sports was a black-only thing. I just don't get it.

Also I hate to tell you this, in a real fight you don't stop swinging until you are sure. I doubt he realized the kid was already knocked out...still unless you are used to playground nonsense you aren't playing the you hit me, I hit you...you ok? no biting, pinching or pulling hair crap. no better fight fair crap. it's a fight, if you lose it you are probably going to be having some problems with your health for a few days to weeks or more. Same with even if you win sometimes.

Before I decide who was right or wrong I want to see the story, not the colors portrayed.

Did you even read my whole post? Or did you just read the first part and reply?

I even said talking smack in basketball pertains to everyone, but it is expected when you are playing with black people. This is a generalization, but it is pretty true from my experience.

I also stated in the very next sentence after my first question, that of course this was a "real fight, but there was nothing that warranted a beat down in a school basketball game." Did you even read my post? :roll: And yes, I know very well how to defend myself and biting, pulling hair, poking eyes... is all fair game, but like I said before, almost nothing warrant assault and battery.

If a person is willing to fight, it better be for something more important than a freaking basketball game -- like defending your wife's honor, defending yourself and your family from physical harm. I have lost my temper a few times myself, but I have almost always been able to control myself and resolve the situation in a mature, grown up manner. Even pro basketball players when they get older and wiser allow the refs to do their jobs and not elevate the situations by fighting. Almost nothing else warrants this behavior, and anyone who says or acts differently is an asshat and deserves prosecution.

It has nothing to do with color, it is a matter of the fact that this kid punched and beat up a kid over a basketball game. If that isn't apparent to you, then you must be either 1) young and naive and thinks fighting is cool, or 2) someone who is making it a race issue pro-black for the kid who did the assault. :roll: (This made me think of the O.J. Simpson trial)

The fact that black basketball players tend to talk smack because of a cultural acceptance of that in sports and basketball has nothing to do with that facts above. I just pointed it out because you seem to be oblivious to the fact that black basketball players in general talk smack in basketball. Basketball players in general do this, but culturally and generally it is almost expected of a black basketball player. It doesn't make you racist to notice an observation instead of trying to be super P.C. about it and ignore the apparent observation. I have as of yet to play a pick up game with some black people where there wasn't trash talking going on (and I used to play a lot before my injury). It isn't a big deal. It is fun sometimes.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: jbourne77
No kidding... and sorry to lash out like that. Classy's response was just some of the most ignorant and racially-biased bullsh*t I've heard in a very, very long time. It's so ludicrous that it can't even be taken seriously.

Anyone who thinks the white kid did ANYTHING to warrant that kind of response needs their head examined with the business end of a shovel.

His problem is that he's too stupid to realize that by circling wagons and justifying the kids actions, he's just lowered himself and his household to his level. We now know that if any of our children are playing with any of Classy's children and elbow them twice clearing out during the course of the game, they are liable to be sucker punched and then have their heads beaten as they lie unconscious. How many of us are going to want our kids playing with Classy's?

It's like when there's a terrorist action by Islamic jihadists and you expect all the peaceful Muslims to come out and condemn it but they don't and you wonder why not. Until they do, we're left to assume that they all find this behavior acceptable or if not acceptable then somehow cathartic.

It's a shame because to tone for his entire identity group is being set, then, by the lowest common denominator.

It appears alkemyst is doing the same thing to a degree.
 
regardless of the race of the person giving the beat down
no one should be able to get away with these types of actions
and yes he is lucky he didnt kill the kid
 
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!
 
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!

sorry. but its a Capital T the lower case just fall over.


LOL sorry couldnt resist.

edit: oh and don't have a horse. used to have a cow but she died. dumb thing thought she was a dog. would come up to you wanting her nose scratched. it was a sad day when she died. but damn did she feed us for a while1
 
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!
STOP WITH THE FLAMEBAITING!!!

i really think you should be banned, and come back with an attitude adjustment or don't come back.

 
You know, you guys defending that little punk are right, it's totally understandable. Next time I'm playing basketball and somebody elbows me, I'm going to stab him in the neck. I mean jeez, if he didn't want to get stabbed in the neck, he shouldn't have elbowed me. Simple enough...you don't want to bleed all over the floor, don't do something that has happened to me in every single game I have ever played...ever.

See, this is why I study martial arts...I'm not a violent person at all, but there are a lot of big dipshits out there who can't keep their hands to themselves. Exceptionally violent self defense is certainly warranted in some situations...but it's not really ok when you're just some thug who doesn't like how basketball is played.
 
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!

How about if that white kids gets a bunch of his friends together and they beat the crap out of that black kid? I mean, surely that's acceptable under your crazy system...if the black kid didn't want to end up in the hospital, he should have reacted in a reasonable fashion...
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!
STOP WITH THE FLAMEBAITING!!!

i really think you should be banned, and come back with an attitude adjustment or don't come back.



why ban me?? I havent said the worst in the thread
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!

How about if that white kids gets a bunch of his friends together and they beat the crap out of that black kid? I mean, surely that's acceptable under your crazy system...if the black kid didn't want to end up in the hospital, he should have reacted in a reasonable fashion...




thats premeditated

 
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!
STOP WITH THE FLAMEBAITING!!!

i really think you should be banned, and come back with an attitude adjustment or don't come back.



why ban me?? I havent said the worst in the thread
i didn't realize it was a contest.

but you bringing a KKK reference into this is uncalled for.

 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!
STOP WITH THE FLAMEBAITING!!!

i really think you should be banned, and come back with an attitude adjustment or don't come back.



why ban me?? I havent said the worst in the thread
i didn't realize it was a contest.

but you bringing a KKK reference into this is uncalled for.




Well...i thought it was funny


HELL YEA!!
 
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: BlacKJesuS
man....why dont we all just forget about the arguement......

lets put on our white hoodies.....mount our horses and burn a lower case t on his lawn


HELL YEA!!!
STOP WITH THE FLAMEBAITING!!!

i really think you should be banned, and come back with an attitude adjustment or don't come back.



why ban me?? I havent said the worst in the thread
i didn't realize it was a contest.

but you bringing a KKK reference into this is uncalled for.

Well...i thought it was funny

HELL YEA!!

Everyone else thought it was stupid.
 
Who cares if the attacker or victim were white or black? If the victim were black, would that make the crime any more acceptable? If the attacker were white, would that help?

Why is everyone seeing it as white v. black? Are you people that shallow?

All that said, the attacker needs to be expelled, brought up on charges, etc. I feel especially bad for the victim because he had braces. Ouch. I can't imagine being hit in the face and having braces. I took one of those plastic break-apart easter eggs to the face (thanks to my douche roommate) and my gums were mashed up in my braces making quite the bloody mess. I can't imagine what a fist would do.
 
Good video that shows what happens when you get punched in the face in real life.
Hollywood just loves to show where a guy can get cleanly punched in the face several times, and then get back up like nothing happened. Kids often think this is reality, and punches people in the face like it's no big deal.
 
Originally posted by: biff 24 2000
heres another link to the story.

My thought on it was that the kid prolly had it coming to him but that doesnt give him the right to beat his a$$.

how did you get that the kid had it coming to him out of that video? i must be totally missing something.
 
Yeah I saw that. Not the worst sporting incident I've seen.

I watched a soccer game where a guy (young adult league, 18+) literally took a penatly kick into another guy's face. Dude was all kinds of messed up. Lost most his teeth, brain hemmoraging, cracked skull, etc... The one guy was charged with and convicted of assault.

In this case, I wonder how old the kid is. And I'm sure social services should be a bit curious as to why the kid lashed out so violently. "Joshing" in games in totally common, the white kid flat out pushing him isn't, but there's no way for us to know exactly what was being said between the two. And still, it's no excuse. Expulsion + probation/community service sure, but I wouldn't lock him up if he's a minor.
 
wow, what a piece of shyt. if that happened to my son (if i had a son), i'd knock him the fvck out and bloody his face. fvck that guy.

the white kid was in the wrong, too. why the hell push the guy in the middle of the game like that? he was asking for a fight. however, he wasn't asking for what he got... that was bvllshit.
 
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