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konichiwa

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<< I wonder where the other half of the story is? This probably happened, but I wouldn't trust the ACLU to provide all the facts, anymore then a liberal is going to trust Drudge. >>

Ahhh, there it is! Thank you Russ, I was getting worried that no one would represent the conservative opinion. I feel much better now.
 

Thanatopsis

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The only reason this sounds fishy is that she only got $5,000 for it. To only get that much, the lady must not have had much of a case. The police here in Denver got stuck with a $1 million+ damage award after one of its officers shot and paralyzed a young kid burglarizing a house.

That's worth more than $5,000 IMHO.
 

SilentBoB

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Depending on how violent the woman was, it could have been thought necessary to tie her down. Seeing as how the board was referred to as a device, this may have been the actual use for it (Its not like they got a board in the alley and decided to have some fun in the back room). Her nudity may also be viewed as necessary depending once again on how violent she was and what she was wearing. Chains or metal in her clothes and even the wire in her bra could be seen as a weapon or means of escape. As for the monitors broadcasting it; security cameras, and it probly wasnt shown throughout the station, just at the desk or room where a security guard(s) watch the monitors.

These are not my opinions, just me trying to see another side of the story as Russ suggested.
 

eakers

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a friend of mine who is 15, yes 15.
was taken from a club/rave for allegidly drug trafficing, this girl didnt have any drugs or money on her but the police still felt the need to strip search her, leave her in jail for the night then let her call her parents and lawyer. they also didnt read her her rights. stirp searching a 15 yr. old by two male officers is statutory rape.
and you knwo what? the toronto police arent going to get in trouble for this at all, especailly since two of them got away with beating a homeless, mentally challenged man to death. it is a sick sick world.

*kat. <-- knows the police are doing their job, but sometimes (a lot of times?) they get outta hand.

 

rahvin

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Only a $5000 award tells me there is another side to this story. Woman could have been violent or suicidal. Juries in this country will give someone 450million for spilling hot coffee in their own lap after being warned it is hot, that award is way to low and frankly is an indication that the reporter isn't telling both sides of the story. That gets my award for one sided journalism of the day.
 

Losty

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Oct 23, 2000
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what the f*ck is wrong with these bastards...
someone aughta stick that board up their A@@es
 

pdiddy

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it's mostly in those small, redneck type towns where authorities abuse their power
 

rudder

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it's mostly in those small, redneck type towns where authorities abuse their power

pdiddy,

you watch too much tv, I live in a small rednecky town and I believe its the cops in the big city who are more prone to abuse. Years of low pay and dealing with the scum of the earth can take its toll on a person. Then they start doing stupind things like raping people with broom sticks happened to that Haitian guy in New York.
 

guyver01

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<< stirp searching a 15 yr. old by two male officers is statutory rape. >>


nope.. it's called doing their job...albiet there should have been a female officer present.

Statutory rape is defined as sexual intercourse with a person under a specified age. This age varies from state to state and country to country but usually ranges from 12 to 18 years. Sexual intercourse with a person who is mentally deficient or unconscious and therefore incapable of giving consent is also sometimes considered statutory rape.

This is how it was defined in a legal case...
http://www.lawyersweekly.com/ncsup/342991.htm
 

classy

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emulex, her butt wasnt covered for 3 hours... but i agree... she was in jail for a reason... maybe this will teach her not to be stupid anymore
Beast1284

This is really an ignorant comment. This woman didn't do anything to deserve this. This comment is just as dumb as those that say a woman deserved to be raped because of the way she was dressed. The only &quot;stupid&quot; one here is you Beast1284, Moron.
 

glaHHg

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Emulex: could have been a dude? ewwwwwwww I don't even want to know what your woman looks like.






:disgust:


:D
 

Isla

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I have a lot of respect for officers of the law but I also am aware of the tendency for some types to become a bit carried away with their power.

If you consider Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Reasoning, these officers were probably operating at Level 1, Step 2 and maybe some at Level 2, Step 3. Basically what that means is that the moral level they are at is not high enough for them to see what they did was wrong.

Consider Milgram's experiments. It takes a person who is highly developed morally to do what is right even when those in power tell you to do something that is clearly wrong.

So, IMO, that poor lady is a victim of her own stupidity (hey, we have all been there and done that, in one way or another) AND is unfortunate enough to have been in a precinct where the lowest common moral denominator dominates.

I'm glad she was awarded something. She should not have been treated that way by people who were hired to protect her... not to dole out punishment as they see fit. She did not have to be stripped naked. At the same time, I hope she learns from her mistake. The world is a cold, harsh place, and being wasted only makes you more vulnerable to those who would take advantage of you.
 

AmdEmAll

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Hopefully she learned her lesson.. I would like to hear the rest of the story.
 

JasonG

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I'm sure these people who think this is OK would be a lot more upset about it if this was their sister or daughter.

These kind of acts are inexcusable!
 

ddiccico

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<< it's mostly in those small, redneck type towns where authorities abuse their power >>

I disagree. I used to live in buffalo, where the police have a long reputation for being corrupt. (but then buffalo is sort of a big redneck town). before I end up getting sued, arrested (like this guy), beaten, etc. I should add that this is an opinion, not substantiated fact.
 

DABANSHEE

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But why focus on trivialities like this when much worse is going on. Look at those plea-bargin snowballs### in places like Tulia, Texas &amp; Union, Alabama, where there were mass raids &amp; hundreds were arrested (every black family in those towns was effected, particully those that owned their own homes, as they were really forfeiture scams) though no evidence was found, all on the say so of the uncorrobarated testimony of a paid snitch. These forfeiture scams that the police run, just to get bonus payments are having a lot more negative effect on peoples freedoms than some woman getting strip searched (even though she's bound to get traumatised from such a humiliation).

### That's where someone's arrested &amp; the only evidence is the testimony of a paid informent &amp; they are told to plea-bargin &amp; get 4 years by snitching on someone else or else they'l get 100 years. There was even a secret recording made by a defence attorney of the prosecuter telling someone that it doesn't matter if he dosen't know any drug dealer, just testify against any old aquaintence (whether guilty or innocent), because they'l roll over &amp; plea-bargin out by snitching on someone else anyway; or else they'l be up for a 100 year term too (there's the effect of those mandatory minimums, redneck polticians love, or should I say polies trying to appeal to the redneck vote). Consequently these things snowball &amp; hundreds get arrested, all on the uncorroborated evidence of a paid snitchs, which mostly doesnt even get tested in court.

A good percentage of the people on Clinton's pardon list are people who were cought up in these plea-bargin snowballs who were thought to be innocent.

Thent we have incidents like that LA copper who admitted to murdering 9 people &amp; framing 70 others, including someone he shot &amp; parralised before putting a gun in his lap to make out it was self defence. Or police that get bonuses such as ski trips to Aspen, based on forfetures. So we have cases like what happened in Louisiana where over 100 motorists driving high value interstate cars were framed (by police for example dropping a joint in the car as they reached in &amp; grabed their keys) just so they could confiscate their cars. It didn't even matter if they got cleared in court, as they still would have to take the police dept to court to get their car backs.

Or this case in LA

8. News in Brief

Scott Family to Get $5 Million Settlement for Shooting Death

An agreement has been reached between the state of California, the county of Los Angeles and the family of Donald P. Scott that will give Scott's family $5 million in compensation for his death at the hands of police. Scott, a 61 year-old millionaire, was shot dead in his home by agents of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office as they executed a no-knock warrant looking for marijuana. No drugs were ever found on the property, and a subsequent investigation by Ventura County District Attorney Michael Bradbury concluded that the warrant was secured with false information. &quot;Clearly one of the primary purposes was a land grab by the Sheriff's Department,&quot; he told reporters.


So, they don't just target poor regional Blacks, either.