OMG: I so miss iOS6

[desura]

Was playing with an old ipad 2 with iOS6. iOS6 has all of the little touches which made iOS special. iOS7 just sucks in comparison.

The most obvious is safari. Remember the rubber band snap when you got to the end? And how it made it seem like the page was moving down? That is so much better than iOS7. iOS 7 by making the address bar move like that when you scroll up and down is actually pretty distracting.

Is there a way to get like an ipad 4 and downgrade it to iOS6? Maybe via jailbreak or some sort?

 

[Eug]

iOS 7.1.2 is where it's at.

Although a couple of the programs I run require iOS 8 now.

 

[zerogear]

Was playing with an old ipad 2 with iOS6. iOS6 has all of the little touches which made iOS special. iOS7 just sucks in comparison.

The most obvious is safari. Remember the rubber band snap when you got to the end? And how it made it seem like the page was moving down? That is so much better than iOS7. iOS 7 by making the address bar move like that when you scroll up and down is actually pretty distracting.

Is there a way to get like an ipad 4 and downgrade it to iOS6? Maybe via jailbreak or some sort?

It's Apple. Firmwares requires signing, so no.

 

[kpkp]

Sorry desura but Apple can't afford to make their charts look worse and lose the main oportunity make fun of Android just for you to be happy:sneaky:

 

[Eug]

iOS 6 is obsolete anyways.

 

[Kaido]

110% agree. I regret upgrading to iOS 7 & 8. The only thing I like is the bottom slide-up command center.

 

[kpkp]

iOS 6 is obsolete anyways.

So it's 10.9 but on non hdpi displays I like it much bette, if only Apple would be kind enough to let me run the latest version of Safari and maybe Preview or is it asking to much.

Happy users should have higher priority then charts, I wish.

Kaido, I would take zephyr and a notification toggle switches over that, but it might just be my "deep hate" for physical buttons.

 

[Eug]

10.9 is not obsolete yet. 10.6 yes and even 10.7 more or less but not 10.9.

Same for iOS 7. Not yet obsolete, but 10.6 is. Why do I say that? Because both OS X 10.9 and iOS 7 are compatible with the large majority of the latest versions of important or very popular applications. Not so much with OS X 10.6 and iOS 6.

That will change with time though, and in fact there are a few very very recent versions of popular applications that are starting to require iOS 8, and that's why I eventually may update my iPad 2 to iOS 8 as well.

By the way, I think Yosemite looks just fine on non-retina screens. I'm running it both on my 2010 iMac and my 2009 MacBook Pro. My main beef with Yosemite is that it no longer will allow trim support on third-party SSDs. I think the biggest problem for some if you want to run Mavericks is if you wanted also to use iCloud Drive. On the other had almost all other current major applications are fully supported on Mavericks.

 

[kpkp]

That's a fair point. But is also true that in some cases this obsolence is artificial since the devs want their app only to run on never devices and they use the OS version as one of the restrictions, to avoid "obsoleted" devices.

 

[Eug]

That's a fair point. But is also true that in some cases this obsolence is artificial since the devs want their app only to run on never devices and they use the OS version as one of the restrictions, to avoid "obsoleted" devices.

True, but the original poster was talking about an iPad 4. iOS 8 runs just fine on an iPad 4.

And furthermore, artificial or not it still causes problems. Even with Apple flagship applications it causes problems. For instance on my 10.7 white MacBook I no longer use Safari as much, because I am running into compatiilty issues with Safari on some websites. Instead I run Chrome and Firefox. In contrast, Safari is my primary browser on 10.10.

 

[kpkp]

Even with Apple flagship applications it causes problems. For instance on my 10.7 white MacBook I no longer use Safari as much, because I am running into compatiilty issues with Safari on some websites. Instead I run Chrome and Firefox. In contrast, Safari is my primary browser on 10.10.

But that's the "we need nice charts" policy again, they could easily have those apps updated trough the App store, like the guys they like to make so much fun of do.
Instead they bundle them with the OS so they can make nice charts out of you.

 

[Eug]

But that's the "we need nice charts" policy again, they could easily have those apps updated trough the App store, like the guys they like to make so much fun of do.
Instead they bundle them with the OS so they can make nice charts out of you.

I know and I agree. But the end result is that it's out of date.

Regardless of the reasoning why, both iOS 6 and OS X 10.6 (and arguably 10.7) are now effectively obsolete.

 

[notposting]

I feel your pain OP.

A lot of it is just, I think, change for change's sake.

I just picked up a used Lumia 928 to send off to my mom (she needs both a good camera, and something to use on prepaid with no data -- gah she was looking at Tracfone options *barf*). I installed the WP8.1 Developer Preview on it and I still hate it.

They made a lot of changes in things that you just shake your head and wonder why.

Take the phone dialer for example. About the *only* requests I ever saw consistently thrown out there were: call durations (yeah, seriously), and maybe T9/numeric dialing.

So they redid it...call durations are buried instead of simply listed next to date/time in call log. Added a Speed Dial page, but no T9/numeric dialing. Removed access to the real contact listing, and instead put in a dumbed down "phonebook" that only has contacts with phone numbers, only the numbers are listed, and it immediately dials contacts with just one number. This is also the behavior in the call log -- which changes the behavior from WP7, 7.5, 7.8, WP8 and SAVES NO STEPS -- the previous approach had a discrete "call" button next to the entry (circled phone) and tapping the contact or entry brought up more info. No copying numbers out of here, no viewing emails, or contact history, etc, anymore.

It's gone from smartphone to touch featurephone with terrible UX and invisible user interface cues.

(Don't get me going on the Photo Hub, Hubs getting completely deprecated rather than improved, games getting strewn throughout the app list, and their long history of dumberness with things like Media Center, WHS, Skydrive/Live Mesh, Zune, etc etc. If MS comes up with something good that you like -- fear not, they will let it wither for years before truly abandoning it.)

/angry bitter rant

 

[desura]

I don't think Steve would have allowed ios7 to happen. Ios6 just feels so much more solid than iOS 7/8.

At this point I'm leaning towards android l's material design.

 

[Eug]

People keep invoking the "Steve wouldn't have done this" statement, but all that "Steve wouldn't have done this" usually means is "I have no clue what Steve would have done but I don't like it".

 

[Kaido]

I don't think Steve would have allowed ios7 to happen. Ios6 just feels so much more solid than iOS 7/8.

I don't think he would have allowed the rollout to happen as it did. I support a zillion iPhones at work & it was horrendous - tons of ridiculous bugs.

Beyond that, I think Cook is too conservative. They waited forever to add stuff like aftermarket keyboards & bigger screens, and lost the lead to Android & the likes of Samsung. I've seen the tipping point myself - I now know more people with Androids than with iPhones. You can still do way more customization with an Android device than you can with an unjailbroken iOS device.

Personally I like the iOS ecosystem - the GUI is simple & no-hassle, apps are easy & verified clean, etc. I don't like iTunes anymore & now use iMazing & Amazon Prime's cloud photo service to manage backups, and Spotify for most of my music. It works for me. And I do like iOS8 more than 7...7 was nonstop bugs. 8 has had some, but they've mostly been ironed out for me in the last patch.

 

[poofyhairguy]

People keep invoking the "Steve wouldn't have done this" statement, but all that "Steve wouldn't have done this" usually means is "I have no clue what Steve would have done but I don't like it".

I agree that "Steve wouldn't have done this" gets used WAY too often, and makes it seem like Apple was a perfectly run ship when he was on top. People always forget the flopped ideas, or how bendgate is basically just the 2014 version of "You are holding it wrong." With that said, I DO think the phrase has some merit when not overused. Steve was VERY consistent about a few things, and was kinda a control freak in way where you can point to how every Apple product leaks now months in advance as something "Steve wouldn't do."

I also think the entire iWatch thing is a great example of something Steve wouldn't do. First of all, how it was "released" so long prior to an actual you can buy it date is CRAZY not Steve's Apple. The whole release strategy reeked of "we need to show it so they don't buy a competitor" which is a scared and kinda play from behind move Steve wouldn't do.

Plus the whole design of the watch, from the square screen to the overcomplicated button, SCREAMS OUT that it is probably the first Apple product line Steve had no input on. It is a safe, me too, catch up to the market device, and is more about filling out a market niche than solving some great problem. Steve sometimes got too into a vision, and offered solutions before the technology was ready (like retina IMHO), but he would never offer a product that lacked a vision of solving a problem just to fill out the product catalog in the same way a competitor did. The Moto 360 (or a better version of it) is the watch Steve would have signed off on, if he would have even approved of a watch.

 

[cronos]

You guys are nuts, iOS 7 is so much better than the previous version, and iOS 8 is clearly an improvement of that.

 

[purbeast0]

i had ios6 on my ip4 that i got rid of when i got the ip6 at launch. after having ip8 for about 2 months now, i like it MUCH better than ios6. everything about it is just better imo. took me some time to get used to it, but overall i like it a lot more. it's just smoother and slicker. could also have to do with the phone upgrade heh.

i wouldn't mind though if i could change to a "dark" theme instead of everything being white backgrounds.