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Originally posted by: 3cho
Originally posted by: AgentJean
Originally posted by: Hyperlite
eh that sucks. kinda threw you a curveball...i know, its hard to come up with random stuff like that on the spot.

A curveball is bad enough when playing baseball.
It's even worse when your expecting to play football.


At least he didn't ask me for a one of my favorite quotes. :p

what is your favorite quote?

"BOOM HEADSHOT!!!"

"STFU NOOB"

"DIAF"

OR ???


free dug777!
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Unless I was desperate for a job, I think I would blow off those kinds of questions. I think that you can determine a person's social demeanor without having to ask them a bunch of BS questions like that. Having a simple conversation with them should be enough to determine whether or not they will fit in.

Ever done any hiring? Ever gotten stuck with a complete idiot who seemed nice enough in the half hour interview?

so you hire people based only on how nice they are?

No, I was making a point about how much you can learn in a "simple conversation."
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
I went through a bunch of BS trying to get a job after college. After months of hassle with fvcktard companies who look at trivialities rather than skills, I got a job making $10/h where I only work on days that I feel like working. I didn't have to interview or do any sort of BS personality test.

thats what im talking about

sometimes the paycut is better than the headaches of trying to impress HR reps with sense of humor and knowledge on life.
 

Soybomb

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It seems to me that every HR person has their voodoo questions that will determine some personality characteristic that cannot be determined in a 30 minute job interview. The extreme stress of a job interview also really makes me extra worthless for most positions. Ultimately all those questioned tested was your charisma and to me are questions more suited to a salesman or other company rep than an IT person. I think you can tell far more about a person's social skills just by talking with them for 30 minutes than asking them to tell jokes, drawing a picture, playing hopscotch or whatever else the HR person heard about at the last conference.
 

Jeff7

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Tell me a joke.

Who inspires me and why.

List 3 of your greatest accomplishments.




Well, I can give you two jokes so far, what's the next question? :)
Or for the joke, you could start stripping.
"Hang on, hang on, once I get my underwear off, you'll start laughing hysterically."
Interviewers love lewd humor.

That aside though, I might ask something about the joke thing, like, "What does that have to do with my ability to do my job?" I guess that could indicate my sense of humor while in a professional environment - it can be made to vanish entirely.


Originally posted by: Chrono
Know why? Because knowledge is one thing but also a person's character is another. Let's say they hired you because of your knowledge but your character was cold as a fish, then obviously working with you would suck.
Not necessarily, I think. Throughout school, I wasn't outgoing, I was rather withdrawn. But my grades didn't suffer because of it, partly because the work was easy for me, and my mind seems built for standardized tests. They see how much you can memorize, but not how much you really understand the material.
So I can work just fine. There need not always be character present to accomplish a given task. I can also work with others just fine. I am of the opinion that working with others is primarily about transferring and combining information to get the job done. I can be "personable" but it's mainly to fit in with the people around me, with their small talk and such. I'm generally good at fooling people too into thinking I like certain things, and I can be a decent actor.
An interview with roundabout questions isn't a good way of getting to know me. I can figure out why you're asking a question, and tailor a response quite easily to let you hear something that would land me a job. It won't be a blatant lie, but it might only be a partial truth. See the part about me being withdrawn - getting to know me is not really advised. I had a close friend who did try to get to know me. I finally decided to let him know how I go about my days, how I view life, and just more about my way of thinking. The next day, his girlfriend asked me that I not speak to him anymore, that he was talking about suicide, and that I usually make him fairly depressed. Who I am stays with me. Interviewers will see a quiet, but capable potential employee, that's it.

That all said, I'm kind of looking forward to a professional job interview. I've had a few already, but they're usually for low-end jobs, things like retail or warehouse work. I've never had any trouble finding a job in those sectors.
 

alkemyst

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usually those going for 'tech support' will never be given the opportunity to save a server.

That said, in tech support your personality is usually a hugh benefit over the knowledge you possess.

Today most of the young that come through our department with resumes possess all the knowledge they need ... however; very few can do that in a user-friendly sort of way.

Many people forget their passwords almost monthly, forget just because a monitor is on doesn't mean the PC is...or vice versa. Forget they have a power strip they may have turned off. Etc.

You probably blew the interview, however; the more interviews you do the better at them you become.
 

Cookie

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Originally posted by: pontifex
3 great accomplishments? i don't even have 1 great accomplishment, unless you consider graduating HS or some dumb tech school/program an accomplishment.

how many people have actually done anything truly great in their lives anyway? not that many.

who inspires me? no one really inspires me, especially for something i would be interviewing a job for.


This is a fantastic example of the type of attitude those interview questions aim to weed out.

"You may have every skill the job requires and all the natural talent in the universe, but if employers perceive that you're going to be a difficult, disruptive force in the workplace, they will not hire you."
 

iamwiz82

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I prefer questions you cannot study for. If I were interviewing someone it would be off the wall questions, because anyone can can responses to "What was your greatest success and failure?" Basically, if they question is seen anywhere in interview prep books or web sites it would be thrown out immediately.

BTW, in my last interview the guy asked me what Cisco router allows you to bundle 4 T1s. Honestly, what good would my having a knowledge of Cisco inventory models be versus actually understanding Cisco router configurations? "I have no idea how to configure a VLAN or Span two ports, but I know the Cisco 7200s platform!"

 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I prefer questions you cannot study for. If I were interviewing someone it would be off the wall questions, because anyone can can responses to "What was your greatest success and failure?" Basically, if they question is seen anywhere in interview prep books or web sites it would be thrown out immediately.

BTW, in my last interview the guy asked me what Cisco router allows you to bundle 4 T1s. Honestly, what good would my having a knowledge of Cisco inventory models be versus actually understanding Cisco router configurations? "I have no idea how to configure a VLAN or Span two ports, but I know the Cisco 7200s platform!"

It would show that you've actually worked with the gear and aren't BSing. It tests your actual experience, not what you've read. I've interviewed tons of people for network tech positions and a lot of them lie through their teeth - they don't actually have experience other than "I played with a router at home".

If you said you were proficient with Cisco switching gear I would ask you what slot a supervisor must go in on a 6509 to take advantage of the 256 Gb backplane and which supervisors have a built-in switch fabric. If you couldn't answer this then it means you lied on your resume.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I prefer questions you cannot study for. If I were interviewing someone it would be off the wall questions, because anyone can can responses to "What was your greatest success and failure?" Basically, if they question is seen anywhere in interview prep books or web sites it would be thrown out immediately.

BTW, in my last interview the guy asked me what Cisco router allows you to bundle 4 T1s. Honestly, what good would my having a knowledge of Cisco inventory models be versus actually understanding Cisco router configurations? "I have no idea how to configure a VLAN or Span two ports, but I know the Cisco 7200s platform!"

It would show that you've actually worked with the gear and aren't BSing. It tests your actual experience, not what you've read. I've interviewed tons of people for network tech positions and a lot of them lie through their teeth - they don't actually have experience other than "I played with a router at home".

If you said you were proficient with Cisco switching gear I would ask you what slot a supervisor must go in on a 6509 to take advantage of the 256 Gb backplane and which supervisors have a built-in switch fabric. If you couldn't answer this then it means you lied on your resume.

I never mentioned Cisco on my resume. I specifically told him before that that my experience over the past 6 years has been HP network equipment. Knowing that I answered one question in a way that makes a question further in your list moot, why ask it? To me, that showed that he was a script reader, so I declined a second interview.

Not to mention that he told me that he fired the last guy after one day for not being able to keep up. :p Yeah, sounds like a really good management style. :D
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I prefer questions you cannot study for. If I were interviewing someone it would be off the wall questions, because anyone can can responses to "What was your greatest success and failure?" Basically, if they question is seen anywhere in interview prep books or web sites it would be thrown out immediately.

BTW, in my last interview the guy asked me what Cisco router allows you to bundle 4 T1s. Honestly, what good would my having a knowledge of Cisco inventory models be versus actually understanding Cisco router configurations? "I have no idea how to configure a VLAN or Span two ports, but I know the Cisco 7200s platform!"

It would show that you've actually worked with the gear and aren't BSing. It tests your actual experience, not what you've read. I've interviewed tons of people for network tech positions and a lot of them lie through their teeth - they don't actually have experience other than "I played with a router at home".

If you said you were proficient with Cisco switching gear I would ask you what slot a supervisor must go in on a 6509 to take advantage of the 256 Gb backplane and which supervisors have a built-in switch fabric. If you couldn't answer this then it means you lied on your resume.

I never mentioned Cisco on my resume. I specifically told him before that that my experience over the past 6 years has been HP network equipment. Knowing that I answered one question in a way that makes a question further in your list moot, why ask it? To me, that showed that he was a script reader, so I declined a second interview.

Not to mention that he told me that he fired the last guy after one day for not being able to keep up. :p Yeah, sounds like a really good management style. :D

Answer would be: "sorry, I haven't worked with Cisco that much so I don't know their product line...however; X router could to that nicely. If you require a Cisco solution I can provide it simply."

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Cookie
Originally posted by: pontifex
3 great accomplishments? i don't even have 1 great accomplishment, unless you consider graduating HS or some dumb tech school/program an accomplishment.

how many people have actually done anything truly great in their lives anyway? not that many.

who inspires me? no one really inspires me, especially for something i would be interviewing a job for.


This is a fantastic example of the type of attitude those interview questions aim to weed out.

"You may have every skill the job requires and all the natural talent in the universe, but if employers perceive that you're going to be a difficult, disruptive force in the workplace, they will not hire you."

Not many do anything outside the ordinary...

The good to great jobs are not looking for those people. You had a good interview. You let them know and you didn't set yourself up for a firing in the future.