OMG, Gingrich just denuded the CNN debate mod... wow...

[monovillage]

What? Allegedly ask his wife for an open marriage? Clinton allegedly had one? Why should this be a big deal to those on the left? I thought we weren't supposed to judge others on their personal lives? It was no big deal for Clinton to get a little action from Monica, right? It was no big deal for Teddy Kennedy to bang anything with a skirt, right?

Yes, it was even OK to the leftists and Democrats for Kennedy to run his car aground and leave his passenger to die. Some things never really change.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I'm not referring to his infidelity. I'm talking about his abrasive comments that drive moderates away and pigeon-hole his appeal to the hardcore. As much noise as the "anyone but Obama" crowd makes in the press, in the end they are just a small minority, and to win the presidency you have to appeal to the mainstream of America. My point? Newt Gingrich doesn't appeal to the mainstream. I believe he could not win the presidential election.

Because more Americans care more about who's going to win American Idol than who's going to be our next president. Our elections have come down to the level of a high school homecoming queen competition. All that matters to some is, 'geee wizz! I'd love to have a beer with that guy!' Get real! And go research elections and editorials from the 1800's, ffs! Talk about abrassive!

I see very little in moderates that impresses me, tbh. I'm all for circumspection and trying to think through all aspects of an issue and I don't agree with everything on the right. But moderates just seem weak and wishy-washy to me, like they're afraid to commit to anything but their moderateness.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Gingrich knows that by and large, conservatives hold all non-conservative biased media in contempt in this country, and so he diverts attention from his past misdeeds, and earns points with the base at the same time, by excoriating said media. Very similar to playing up the race issue to earn votes from the base. Distract them with red meat. Give them stuff you know will make them cheer and all is forgiven.

So you'd be ok if a Fox news moderator opened up a fall presidential debate by ripping into Obama and asking him when we'll get to see his college / law school grades or the papers he wrote while in school?

Or am I a racist by asking this?

 

[theeedude]

Republicans really need to stick it to the media and nominate Gingrich. Screw CNN, go Newt

 

[AnitaPeterson]

After watching snippets of the debate on CNNs website (and being irritated by those bloody unskippable oil industry commercials!), I have to say that Santorum is a douchebag, Romney has a good voice, Paul looks old and frail, and Gingrich probably dwarfs all his three rivals in intelligence.

My money is on either Romney or Gingrich getting nominated. Either one would make an interesting opponent for Obama. But Obama would probably mop the floor with Romney in the end. Gingrich would make for a more interesting final confrontation.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Is infidelity that big deal in this country?

Well the republicans tried to impeach Clinton for it, and Newt was in the front row holding a rope. So by their own standard YES!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Well the republicans tried to impeach Clinton for it, and Newt was in the front row holding a rope. So by their own standard YES!

Wrong! It wasn't the blowjob/infidelity, it was the lying under oath.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Wrong! It wasn't the blowjob/infidelity, it was the lying under oath.

And remind me why he was required by a special prosecutor to testify under oath about his alleged infidelity?

Evidently the republicans felt the fidelity/infidelity of the president was important enough to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate his marital improprieties

 

[Jaskalas]

I have to say that Santorum is a douchebag

Reminded me of a little yipping dog. Paris Hilton should carry him around in a bag. His answers were long, drawn out and focused on attacking.

Romney has a good voice

True, but he couldn't handle the tough questions and merely stammers or deflects.

Paul looks old and frail

No argument there, Paul has a good message but he is a frail messenger. His son needs to take up the cause.

and Gingrich probably dwarfs all his three rivals in intelligence.

Agreed again, and I loved his answer on SOPA, on Immigration. He tries to provide real intelligent answers to questions. As a DC politician he's the top of his class.

Problem is his anger, his 'passion'. Can be his undoing if he misuses it. The man is playing with fire and if he doesn't watch himself he'll get burned badly.

My money is on either Romney or Gingrich getting nominated. Either one would make an interesting opponent for Obama. But Obama would probably mop the floor with Romney in the end. Gingrich would make for a more interesting final confrontation.

Not much to add, you sum up my sentiments.

 

[DesiPower]

And remind me why he was required by a special prosecutor to testify under oath about his alleged infidelity?

Evidently the republicans felt the fidelity/infidelity of the president was important enough to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate his marital improprieties

Anyone will be fired from their job if their staff complained about sexual harassment with possible proofs. Noone is fired from their job for cheating with their spouse or having multiple partner. Get real, put the kool-aid down and stop trolling.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

And remind me why he was required by a special prosecutor to testify under oath about his alleged infidelity?

Evidently the republicans felt the fidelity/infidelity of the president was important enough to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate his marital improprieties

Lying under oath is lying under oath no matter how you try to play it off.

 

[sportage]

So you'd be ok if a Fox news moderator opened up a fall presidential debate by ripping into Obama and asking him when we'll get to see his college / law school grades or the papers he wrote while in school?

Or am I a racist by asking this?

Seriously.... is THAT the best u can do?
Oh I get it... Faux news....

 

[Rainsford]

Yes, it was even OK to the leftists and Democrats for Kennedy to run his car aground and leave his passenger to die. Some things never really change.

Pointing out what you believe to be a double standard isn't really a clever comment if BOTH sides have the same double standard, particularly when you're pretending that they don't.

Do some Democrats get bent out of shape over things both Republicans and Democrats do only when Republicans do them? I'd say so. Do some Republicans do EXACTLY THE SAME THING? Well, duh. And are there people willing to pretend that only the other guys do it to score partisan points? Definitely.

 

[monovillage]

Pointing out what you believe to be a double standard isn't really a clever comment if BOTH sides have the same double standard, particularly when you're pretending that they don't.

Do some Democrats get bent out of shape over things both Republicans and Democrats do only when Republicans do them? I'd say so. Do some Republicans do EXACTLY THE SAME THING? Well, duh. And are there people willing to pretend that only the other guys do it to score partisan points? Definitely.

I'm far more honest then most to declare my partisanship and my own opinions. Perhaps you should look around this forum to the people that say that they are not partisan or a member of a particular political party and see how inconsistent they are in their claims of neutrality.

 

[DesiPower]

seems its carried Gingrich all the way through!, 15% votes counter and he is 10% ahead. wow, that a substantial lead... It made a BIG difference...

 

[Craig234]

And remind me why he was required by a special prosecutor to testify under oath about his alleged infidelity?

Evidently the republicans felt the fidelity/infidelity of the president was important enough to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate his marital improprieties

Actually, the testifying under oath about sex originally stemmed from the civil lawsuit, not the impeachment, thought right-wing lawyers worked in the background for politics.

The Republicans exploited the sex politically as much as they could - while many or most had their own affairs going on - by things like ensuring the report was filled with details.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yes, it was even OK to the leftists and Democrats for Kennedy to run his car aground and leave his passenger to die. Some things never really change.

One of these days you might make a response without throwing out your gratuitous leftest, socialists throw away bullshit.l

 

[monovillage]

One of these days you might make a response without throwing out your gratuitous leftest, socialists throw away bullshit.l

It was a pretty funny correlation between the crash of Kennedy's car in Chappaquiddick and the death of Mary Jo and the wreck of the Costa Concordia and death of multiple passengers with both "captains" fleeing the scene. If you can't see the similarities then you have political blinkers on. You and other leftists just got pissed because it stung.

You along with a good number of Democrats or leftists seem to think it's perfectly fine to make any sort of nasty, disparaging comments about Republicans, but then get your panties in a bunch and act all outraged when the same type of rudeness is directed in your direction. If you don't want rudeness directed at you, then don't direct it at others.

 

[CallMeJoe]

It was a pretty funny correlation between the crash of Kennedy's car in Chappaquiddick and the death of Mary Jo and the wreck of the Costa Concordia and death of multiple passengers with both "captains" fleeing the scene. If you can't see the similarities then you have political blinkers on. You and other leftists just got pissed because it stung...

I guess Leftist hypocrisy explains why Senator Kennedy so easily won the Democratic nomination for the presidency...

 

[monovillage]

I guess Leftist hypocrisy explains why Senator Kennedy so easily won the Democratic nomination for the presidency...

Tell that to the Democrats that re-elected him to the Massachusetts Senate 7 (seven) times after her death. He lost his attempt at the Presidency when he ran against the incumbent Democrat President Jimmy Carter.

 

[trenchfoot]

Judging from the many divertive posts in support of Gingrich in this thread, it's plausible to assume that even the most ardent of Gingrich's supporters really have nothing good to say about him.

It's a lot like an owner taking his unleashed badly misbehaving dog for a walk at the beach and then blames anyone who gets bit or pissed on by the dog for not being smart enough to stay at home that day.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Tell that to the Democrats that re-elected him to the Massachusetts Senate 7 (seven) times after her death. He lost his attempt at the Presidency when he ran against the incumbent Democrat President Jimmy Carter.

Give me a break. It's Massachusetts; they also elected Mitt Romney, Michael Dukakis and John Kerry. They're obviously not the most enlightened electorate.

 

[monovillage]

Judging from the many divertive posts in support of Gingrich in this thread, it's plausible to assume that even the most ardent of Gingrich's supporters really have nothing good to say about him.

It's a lot like an owner taking his unleashed badly misbehaving dog for a walk at the beach and then blames anyone who gets bit or pissed on by the dog for not being smart enough to stay at home that day.

There's 3 threads on this page with his name on them and about 5 more that deal directly with him. It's plausible to assume that supporters of Gingrich have stated their support for him and why in other threads.

 

[trenchfoot]

There's 3 threads on this page with his name on them and about 5 more that deal directly with him. It's plausible to assume that supporters of Gingrich have stated their support for him and why in other threads.

Well, I just did a cursory check to see if I needed to change my opinion on the matter in the broader context you mentioned, but the preponderance of what I read in those other threads defending him were similar to what's in here. Sorry.

If you think it worth the effort, I wouldn't mind perusing any specific threads you could point me to. I do have an open mind IRT to what you're referring to.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by DesiPower
Is infidelity that big deal in this country?

Well the republicans tried to impeach Clinton for it, and Newt was in the front row holding a rope. So by their own standard YES!

What standards?

If Newt said he was Gay and wanted to marry his boyfriend at this point Republicans would still elect him.

Remember all they care about is power, the rest is all lip service.