OMG, everybody must be reading my posts on P & N and plagerizing my warnings:

[Pohemi]

I'll get right on it as soon as you can show me that the real meaning of religion and what the author of the link was using the word for has anything to do with receiving tax benefits. Jesus

*WOOOSH*

 

[Moonbeam]

*WOOOSH*

Making a case for why social justice has become a new religion is equivalent to saying that this will be true only when the new social justice is granted tax break because the identifying factor is whether or not something is a religion is determined by the presence or absence of tax breaks. Those are my cards.
Yours are WOOOSH? Why? Sounds like you had the duty chicken walk through the broth.

 

[ch33zw1z]

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It's an appeal to the liberal mind that having being able to avoid irrational emotions is a good thing and we should be willing to look at ourselves for weaknesses. The unconscious assumption preferred by fear is to claim the right of intolerance is whatever fear wants to say it is. No need to fear the crazies. They are crazy and that will cause them to fail. Also, the way to deal with crazy isn't to succumb to it yourself. Intolerance can be expresses with madness but the madness part isn't necessary. There is more than one way to be intolerant, in terror or confidently.

Sure, so like guns and religion for you. We all have our emotional attachments, some peoples you don’t agree with.

 

[Pohemi]

Making a case for why social justice has become a new religion is equivalent to saying that this will be true only when the new social justice is granted tax break because the identifying factor is whether or not something is a religion is determined by the presence or absence of tax breaks. Those are my cards.
Yours are WOOOSH? Why? Sounds like you had the duty chicken walk through the broth.

Ridiculous premise meets ridiculous premise. I just thought you took his commentary intention a bit too literally. I could be wrong.

 

[dank69]

But but but, I am supposed to be intolerant of the intolerant because if I'm not intolerance will win. You guys need to get your stories straight, so "Fuck outta here".

PS: When you said: "I don't do anything "tribally." I think for myself, and after much thinking about this specific topic, anyone who complains about "social justice" can go fuck themselves.", all that much thinking you did was motivated by anger at conservatives. Why the anger. Do you hate the blind because they take so long to cross the street. I know, I know, you're the wrong person to ask about that. You are just like me.

Get our stories straight? So we aren't lockstep enough for you? Lol

 

[Moonbeam]

Ridiculous premise meets ridiculous premise. I just thought you took his commentary intention a bit too literally. I could be wrong.

I have no problem with whether you thought the author of the link in the OP took the analogy too far. The wooosh comment looked to me like you were suggesting his analogy was simply all wrong because the two do not share tax breaks and that my suggestion that's not how he was defining religion because that's its most relevant characteristic was out there somewhere.

It is perfectly acceptable that you don't like a comparison phenomenon of Social Justice fervor with religious fanaticism but for the reasons that you espouse the former and despise the latter in my opinion. But I attribute the, (I am going to use the word) fanaticism of each to the same cause, the assumption on each side that their moral certainty arises out of the presence of unexamined assumptions that each side absolutely and irrefutably knows what the good is. The religious see the loss of respect for religion and opening the door to the Devil and the left sees that irrationality as a moral threat to tolerance and the end of Democracy. I look at the former as a dire threat and the response on the left frenetic and ineffectual, all of the sorts of phenomena we associate with the right being triggered. It represents a failure of trust and a lot of pointless raving, too full of fear of the other which is what fear always actuates in reality, of course my opinion.

 

[Moonbeam]

Get our stories straight? So we aren't lockstep enough for you? Lol

Never been confused about our stories. A lot of my tolerance in general comes from knowing how much like you I am.

 

[Moonbeam]

Sure, so like guns and religion for you. We all have our emotional attachments, some peoples you don’t agree with.

I have argued that liberal arguments to ban guns are politically unwise and based on a desire not to face the real cause of violence. I have argued that because the so called practitioners of religion have a corrupted notion of what their religion is supposed to really be about does not invalidate it’s original intent.

I happen to enjoy owning gun even though I have not shot one in decades. I am a strong believer in the right of self defense, in my opinion the result of a similar attitude of my ancestors for the last few billion years.

Also, I came to be able to see the original intent and the deep wisdom one can find in religion by a separate path than faith, but by the back door of atheism, actually.

The emotion attachment you read into those positions, in my opinion just your opinion, the result of your own emotional dislike of both positions. You have the social justice warrior disease My fervor in pointing out these facts is that you, and not just you personally, but others, is based on the fact that I judge them to be harmful, not to me, but to you. I have a hard time watching a blind person walk off a cliff without at least offering them some notion of what they are headed for. I am also not amenable to any appeal you might make to suggest you think you know what you are doing. Your efforts to cane me in the process just shine a beacon on its white tip.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I have argued that liberal arguments to ban guns are politically unwise and based on a desire not to face the real cause of violence. I have argued that because the so called practitioners of religion have a corrupted notion of what their religion is supposed to really be about does not invalidate it’s original intent.

I happen to enjoy owning gun even though I have not shot one in decades. I am a strong believer in the right of self defense, in my opinion the result of a similar attitude of my ancestors for the last few billion years.

Also, I came to be able to see the original intent and the deep wisdom one can find in religion by a separate path than faith, but by the back door of atheism, actually.

The emotion attachment you read into those positions, in my opinion just your opinion, the result of your own emotional dislike of both positions. You have the social justice warrior disease My fervor in pointing out these facts is that you, and not just you personally, but others, is based on the fact that I judge them to be harmful, not to me, but to you. I have a hard time watching a blind person walk off a cliff without at least offering them some notion of what they are headed for. I am also not amenable to any appeal you might make to suggest you think you know what you are doing. Your efforts to cane me in the process just shine a beacon on its white tip.

you've Displayed an emotional attachment to those topics, it’s shows your humanity, and you’re blaming me for it. How very not enlightened of you….and entirely predictable at this point.

you see here, you’re opinion about my emotional attachment to SJW is really just your dislike for the movement.

your combination of projection and self hate is pretty boring now.

not only are you wrong in this reply, but you’re incapable of seeing other perspectives.

maybe you should take your own advice sometimes.

 

[mikeymikec]

"Everything has become politicised!", complains the obvious right-winger whose side made it their platform to politicise just about everything in the human experience, all in the name of maintaining privilege for those with power and influence.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Ridiculous premise meets ridiculous premise. I just thought you took his commentary intention a bit too literally. I could be wrong.

He did.

 

[Moonbeam]

ch33zw1z:
you've Displayed an emotional attachment to those topics, it’s shows your humanity, and you’re blaming me for it. How very not enlightened of you….and entirely predictable at this point.
M: in the first place you completely sidestepped the reasoning I supplied to you regarding the issue with irrationality, fear, and the different ways one can react to intolerance and simply tried to turn the tables and point at some irrational attachment. But the facts of how I see you, if correct would would not suddenly be wrong because I have similar issues. On top of that, you chose issues which I felt I refuted with substance whereas you simple said I have emotional attachment and leave the zero by way of explanation. This is just more evidence that when you think you are right you simple say what you believe as if the world automatically believes it. are just lousy at logical debate.

C: you see here, you’re opinion about my emotional attachment to SJW is really just your dislike for the movement.

M: But I have never said you are are attached to SJW. I said in my opinion you react as is typical of those referred to as social justice warriors in that you instantly and with little critical thinking at all herd up like a lemming with other lemmings rushing into the sea. You are like the Spanish Inquisition looking for heretics. Liking or disliking has nothing to do with anything. It dangerous as is any fanatical belief.

c: your combination of projection and self hate is pretty boring now.

M: Again, no content, no reasoning. Just the usual poof you are a dragon.

c: not only are you wrong in this reply, but you’re incapable of seeing other perspectives.

M: So now what do I do, say no it’s you who is wrong. Wouldn’t that be just pointless. And I think part of your issue with me is that I actually see a lot of perspectives, but one’s you don’t like. What I don’t see is any logical argument to support them.



maybe you should take your own advice sometimes.
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[ch33zw1z]

ch33zw1z:
you've Displayed an emotional attachment to those topics, it’s shows your humanity, and you’re blaming me for it. How very not enlightened of you….and entirely predictable at this point.
M: in the first place you completely sidestepped the reasoning I supplied to you regarding the issue with irrationality, fear, and the different ways one can react to intolerance and simply tried to turn the tables and point at some irrational attachment. But the facts of how I see you, if correct would would not suddenly be wrong because I have similar issues. On top of that, you chose issues which I felt I refuted with substance whereas you simple said I have emotional attachment and leave the zero by way of explanation. This is just more evidence that when you think you are right you simple say what you believe as if the world automatically believes it. are just lousy at logical debate.

C: you see here, you’re opinion about my emotional attachment to SJW is really just your dislike for the movement.

M: But I have never said you are are attached to SJW. I said in my opinion you react as is typical of those referred to as social justice warriors in that you instantly and with little critical thinking at all herd up like a lemming with other lemmings rushing into the sea. You are like the Spanish Inquisition looking for heretics. Liking or disliking has nothing to do with anything. It dangerous as is any fanatical belief.

c: your combination of projection and self hate is pretty boring now.

M: Again, no content, no reasoning. Just the usual poof you are a dragon.

c: not only are you wrong in this reply, but you’re incapable of seeing other perspectives.

M: So now what do I do, say no it’s you who is wrong. Wouldn’t that be just pointless. And I think part of your issue with me is that I actually see a lot of perspectives, but one’s you don’t like. What I don’t see is any logical argument to support them.



maybe you should take your own advice sometimes.

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moonbeams usual “no u”.

 

[Pohemi]

I have no problem with whether you thought the author of the link in the OP took the analogy too far. The wooosh comment looked to me like you were suggesting his analogy was simply all wrong because the two do not share tax breaks and that my suggestion that's not how he was defining religion because that's its most relevant characteristic was out there somewhere.

I was referring to Osiris' comments, not the article in the OP that you linked.

He did.

Appears I was on-target, and the WOOOSH was justified. Sort of still is.

You are too busy rambling about everyone being overemotional creatures, and you can't even keep the quoting and references to prior commentary straight. Take a breath.

 

[Jaskalas]

As for difficulty in coming out as Christian, well, the world is moving on from fairy tales.

That is the most beautiful lie you have ever, or will ever, tell.
Do you honestly believe it?

Mankind will ever, only, replace one fairytale with another.
One violent political group with another violent political group. After all, violence begets violence. As the GQP is horrible, so too will we match them with our own horrors.