OMG! Downtown Gaza looks like New York during 9/11!

[kylebisme]

Yeah, really.

You got a problem with reality?

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, really.

You got a problem with reality?

I never claimed support for Israel. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of American Hamas apologist. The people of Gaza brought this on themselves when they voted into power a foreign backed terrorist organization with no intention of peace. They had a chance at peace when Israel withdrew from Gaza, but fucked it up by continually firing rockets at Israel.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I never claimed support for Israel.

You didn't claim it, but you contenue to provide it all the same.

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of American Hamas apologist.

I make no apologies for terrorists, Hamas or otherwise.

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
The people of Gaza brought this on themselves when they voted into power a foreign backed terrorist organization with no intention of peace. They had a chance at peace when Israel withdrew from Gaza, but fucked it up by continually firing rockets at Israel.

The people of Gaza did not bring Israel's conquest of Palestine on themselves, they've had it forced on them for decades, since long before most were born. How have you shifted the onus to them here?

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: brownzilla786

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: brownzilla786

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
awwwww......bombs fall to ground and go boom boom!!

9/11:

awwwww.... planes crash into buildings go boom boom!

awwwww.... people jump from buildings go splat splat!

Drunk drivers:

awwwww... car hits kid go thunk splat!

The immorality in some poster's dehumanizing people is quite sickening and shameful.

awwwww....bomb falls on people who want to destory Israel and kill the jews. no sympathy here.

Hey dumb ass, if there were only men down there and you made that comment then your still a pig but the situation wouldn't be so bad, but women and children are getting shelled too. Try to imagine your wife, son, or daughter getting blown to bits and you can't do shit about it. You cant and you never will. Be thankful for that

You don't seem to understand Hamas makes the woman and children fight too? Welcome to the Muslim extremist faith. (Btw, Hamas has made public statements about this, it isn't just heresy.)

Dude, get real. That statement has so much shit stuck to it its actually funny. By that statement alone, people like you justify bombing that place back to the stone age because, HAMAS MAKES WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIGHT!? You barely see the Palestinian population fight back and you say the women and children fight TOO!? According to that genius logic everyone is a terrorists!!11oneone!! BOMB EM TO HELL BOYS!

Edit: Richard, do you really think those kids and women deserved to die because you honestly believe that they are, as you put it, "fighting" (other than fighting to survive).

I think the only people who deserve to die are the people fighting Israel.

Why are you so horny for israel?

Would you say you support killing people who attack the United States of America? Or whatever country you are from?

You never answered me. Nice strawman BTW.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: RichardE
Would you say you support killing people who attack the United States of America? Or whatever country you are from?

Here in the United States of America, we aren't colonizing a nation's homeland out from under them. Hence we don't have people herded into pins like livestock or some of those people lashing back at the injustices of that with those of their own.

Unfortunately, we have been using our economic and diplomatic power to back Israel as they have continued to do that for over 40 years now, and we are being lashed back at for that grave injustice by terrorists such as the one's who attacked us on 9/11.

I say we need to put an end to this madness of Israel's insane conquest over Palestine which drives terrorists to attack us, so the two nations can finally exist beside each other in peace.

The thing is, we here in North American can say stuff like that, all the while we forget about the natives here...

Imagine the UN gives america back to the natives. Would we fight from our ghettos?
Would we bomb the zionist reds?

 

[amdhunter]

Makes sense since Israel was responsible for both tragedies. :shrug;

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, really.

You got a problem with reality?

I never claimed support for Israel. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of American Hamas apologist. The people of Gaza brought this on themselves when they voted into power a foreign backed terrorist organization with no intention of peace. They had a chance at peace when Israel withdrew from Gaza, but fucked it up by continually firing rockets at Israel.

Bull. For years the Palestenians did not launch rockets, did not commit 'terrorism', and Israel continued its pursuit of new illegal settlements, repressed Palestenians as they liked, and the US public ignored the situation - it didn't exist as an issue, it was 'just fine'. It didn't bring them justice, it brought them injustice without any attention to it.

They've never had justice available. They have had public relations attacks from Isael to try to make it look like justice was available, because Israel's strongest weapon is its image as the morally superior entity, and the image of their trying to have peace and justice is essential to the political support for their policies, and so those facts are manufactured.

It reminds me of how during the civil rights era, many whites would say that blacks would get justice if they just didn't push too hard, didn't cross the line on law & order and violence, but when they did do anything 'wrong', they lost any right to any justice - conveniiently ignoring the century after slavery ended during which the whites happily continued racist laws and segregation, no problem.

 

[kylebisme]

Well said, Craig.

 

[brownzilla786]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, really.

You got a problem with reality?

I never claimed support for Israel. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of American Hamas apologist. The people of Gaza brought this on themselves when they voted into power a foreign backed terrorist organization with no intention of peace. They had a chance at peace when Israel withdrew from Gaza, but fucked it up by continually firing rockets at Israel.

Bull. For years the Palestenians did not launch rockets, did not commit 'terrorism', and Israel continued its pursuit of new illegal settlements, repressed Palestenians as they liked, and the US public ignored the situation - it didn't exist as an issue, it was 'just fine'. It didn't bring them justice, it brought them injustice without any attention to it.

They've never had justice available. They have had public relations attacks from Isael to try to make it look like justice was available, because Israel's strongest weapon is its image as the morally superior entity, and the image of their trying to have peace and justice is essential to the political support for their policies, and so those facts are manufactured.

It reminds me of how during the civil rights era, many whites would say that blacks would get justice if they just didn't push too hard, didn't cross the line on law & order and violence, but when they did do anything 'wrong', they lost any right to any justice - conveniiently ignoring the century after slavery ended during which the whites happily continued racist laws and segregation, no problem.

:thumbsup:

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, really.

You got a problem with reality?

I never claimed support for Israel. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of American Hamas apologist. The people of Gaza brought this on themselves when they voted into power a foreign backed terrorist organization with no intention of peace. They had a chance at peace when Israel withdrew from Gaza, but fucked it up by continually firing rockets at Israel.

Bull. For years the Palestenians did not launch rockets, did not commit 'terrorism', and Israel continued its pursuit of new illegal settlements, repressed Palestenians as they liked, and the US public ignored the situation - it didn't exist as an issue, it was 'just fine'. It didn't bring them justice, it brought them injustice without any attention to it.

They've never had justice available. They have had public relations attacks from Isael to try to make it look like justice was available, because Israel's strongest weapon is its image as the morally superior entity, and the image of their trying to have peace and justice is essential to the political support for their policies, and so those facts are manufactured.

It reminds me of how during the civil rights era, many whites would say that blacks would get justice if they just didn't push too hard, didn't cross the line on law & order and violence, but when they did do anything 'wrong', they lost any right to any justice - conveniiently ignoring the century after slavery ended during which the whites happily continued racist laws and segregation, no problem.

do you live on an illegal settlement? when are you going to sign your property over to my tribe for what your ancestors stole?

 

[AmdEmAll]

Not working for me. Open with WMP? or did it get blown up?

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
do you live on an illegal settlement? when are you going to sign your property over to my tribe for what your ancestors stole?

With the way you defile their memory, you obviously don't deserve anything that was theirs anyway.

When are you going to stop trying to justify robbing people of their homeland?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, really.

You got a problem with reality?

I never claimed support for Israel. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of American Hamas apologist. The people of Gaza brought this on themselves when they voted into power a foreign backed terrorist organization with no intention of peace. They had a chance at peace when Israel withdrew from Gaza, but fucked it up by continually firing rockets at Israel.

Bull. For years the Palestenians did not launch rockets, did not commit 'terrorism', and Israel continued its pursuit of new illegal settlements, repressed Palestenians as they liked, and the US public ignored the situation - it didn't exist as an issue, it was 'just fine'. It didn't bring them justice, it brought them injustice without any attention to it.

They've never had justice available. They have had public relations attacks from Isael to try to make it look like justice was available, because Israel's strongest weapon is its image as the morally superior entity, and the image of their trying to have peace and justice is essential to the political support for their policies, and so those facts are manufactured.

It reminds me of how during the civil rights era, many whites would say that blacks would get justice if they just didn't push too hard, didn't cross the line on law & order and violence, but when they did do anything 'wrong', they lost any right to any justice - conveniiently ignoring the century after slavery ended during which the whites happily continued racist laws and segregation, no problem.

do you live on an illegal settlement? when are you going to sign your property over to my tribe for what your ancestors stole?

You utterly failed to respond to the points I made. Off to the next things you make up.

What was done to the Native Americans was wrong. The situation now is very different for justice for those wrongs, and justice for the Palestenians.

There are many relevant differences in the situations, which if you lack the intellectual honesty to have already noted, you aren't likely to start because I say what they are.

I'd like to look at doing more for today's Native Americans, by the way. My idea of that wouldn't be to 'return all the land', but to set up an expert commission to suggest a plan.

That would like involve admitting the wrongs, and additional land and aid.

My position doesn't contradict my view on the Palestenian situation; if I supported our stealing MORE land from Native Americans now with new settlements, it would.

You sure did pick two groups to be born from who have had wrongs done to them, though. Good to see it hasn't put any chips on your shoulder.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, really.

You got a problem with reality?

I never claimed support for Israel. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of American Hamas apologist. The people of Gaza brought this on themselves when they voted into power a foreign backed terrorist organization with no intention of peace. They had a chance at peace when Israel withdrew from Gaza, but fucked it up by continually firing rockets at Israel.

Bull. For years the Palestenians did not launch rockets, did not commit 'terrorism', and Israel continued its pursuit of new illegal settlements, repressed Palestenians as they liked, and the US public ignored the situation - it didn't exist as an issue, it was 'just fine'. It didn't bring them justice, it brought them injustice without any attention to it.

They've never had justice available. They have had public relations attacks from Isael to try to make it look like justice was available, because Israel's strongest weapon is its image as the morally superior entity, and the image of their trying to have peace and justice is essential to the political support for their policies, and so those facts are manufactured.

It reminds me of how during the civil rights era, many whites would say that blacks would get justice if they just didn't push too hard, didn't cross the line on law & order and violence, but when they did do anything 'wrong', they lost any right to any justice - conveniiently ignoring the century after slavery ended during which the whites happily continued racist laws and segregation, no problem.

do you live on an illegal settlement? when are you going to sign your property over to my tribe for what your ancestors stole?

My village Northwest of Jerusalem is now the site of an illegal settlement, my family has lived in poverty in a refugee camp since 1948. Where do I sign up for reparations?

See how easily your argument can be turned against you? And I'm NOT being hypothetical either.

 

[networkman]

Actually, there are a number of parts of Gaza that are in better condition than Detroit! Gaza can at least blame some of their problems on the Isrealis.