Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Wow... where to start. First of all, if you've ever read my posts in the past, you would know that I have long advocated wiping CS of the face of the planet. It has been surpassed and resurpassed in quality many times over. The world of gaming would be a much better place if everyone stopped playing CS and starting playing something else.
Second of all, I've never used a cheat in any game. I didn't even know they existed in BF1942. Not only do cheats destroy online games, but I don't see the point. How the hell can a game be fun if you are using cheats?
Lastly, I don't even know what to say to the bunny hopping comment. I suppose if I played CS or CoD it might apply to me (although I thought they tried to eliminate bunny hopping in CS, not sure- don't really care), but I don't. I do, however, love when people role out the strategy and "using your brain" arguments with various games. In fact, I just had this discussion not long ago. I could go on and on about this, but I'll try to keep it brief. Just because a game is slower paced, it is not necessarily more strategic. Nor does it necessarily require more "brainpower." I could even erroneous imply the exact opposite if I wanted to. I could say that if a game is faster paced, it requires faster reactions, and therefore you need to "use your brain" more. But saying that would be a stupid generalization and a sign that I wasn't in fact using my brain, so I'm not going to do that.
And it's mostly a personal opinion, but I'm definitely not a fan of the man on man combat in battlefield. There just isn't enough sign that you've hit somebody. It's kind of a weird thing, but it needs to feel more "solid." I'm sure some people know what I'm talking about. Sluggish is a good word for it, and it has nothing to do with the speed of my pc. At any rate, Soldner looks promising, and it looks like it could beat out BF: V as far as quality goes. It will certainly have it beat in content.
Edit: and I saw the smily thing, but I still felt the need to reply
What is the last version of BF 1942 that you played?
I ask because I would agree that the infantry combat in BF was the biggest weakness in the initial release and the first patch. You are right that without vehicles, the game would have bombed. The massive fun of planes, tanks, ships, jeeps, etc. is what kept everyone playing while they worked out the bugs in the infantry combat.
It is at the point now where I think the infantry combat is just as good or better than any other shooter I've played.
Does your crosshair flashing when you hit something give you enough of a "sign that you've hit somebody"?
I agree that slower paced doesn't always mean more strategic. Medal of Honor is slower paced than games like UT and Quake, but I would not say it requires any more strategy.
BF on the other hand, definitely requires more strategy than a deathmatch type game. There are so many different roles to play and so many different ways to defeat the opponent.
I just don't think you can compare BF to any other WW2 shooter. The sheer variety in gameplay when you mix infantry combat, land vehicles, air vehicles, healing and repairing things, setting traps with mines, explosives, calling in artillery with scouts, etc. just can't be compared to glorified Quake style WW2 games like MOH and CoD.
And yeah, the smiley was intended to make it clear that I wasn't really accusing you of that. I was being overly generalistic and making fun of those people who bitch and moan about having to lead their targets in BF rather than getting instant kills while bunny hopping with a sniper rifle. Those people who say things like, "THIS GAME SUCKS A$$. I put my crosshair on the guy and clicked the fire button and he's still alive, WTF???, This game is stupid"
EDIT: Back on topic,
I'm really not that excited for Doom 3. I admit I haven't played Doom 1 or 2. It's just that from what I see, it looks like just another graphically improved Quake, HL, or UT. Just run around and shoot things. Ever since playing a more team oriented game like BF, I just can't get that excited about run and gun style shooters.
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