OMG @ computer artistry skills

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Dubb

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wow, that takes talent and a lot of it

no it doesn't. all he did was trace images. If anything, it just took alot of time. but it in no way requires any real artistic skill or talent.
 

archcommus

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Originally posted by: Dubb
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
wow, that takes talent and a lot of it

no it doesn't. all he did was trace images. If anything, it just took alot of time. but it in no way requires any real artistic skill or talent.
Why do you have to be such a dumbass. He says a number of times that's not what he did at all.
 

Dubb

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Dubb
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
wow, that takes talent and a lot of it

no it doesn't. all he did was trace images. If anything, it just took alot of time. but it in no way requires any real artistic skill or talent.
Why do you have to be such a dumbass. He says a number of times that's not what he did at all.

I glanced through his page and I never saw him say that he doesn't trace a preexisting image. he talks about how he shades and textures things, but that isn't hard when you're pulling the color value right off an image.

plus, if you just look at it, it's obvious. digitally traced imaged have a look (really it's the absence of the artist's style) that just doesn't happen when starting from scratch or by looking at an image.

thanks for the insult, poophead.

edit: also.... just saw this

Also, yes. It is quite true that I used pictures from google as direct reference for some of this, and completely used content from them, as I openly admitted.

He does say

All you detectives out there that seem to have come to the conclusion that I copied images and drew over them? I don't know how you come up with that theory with the stages in the drawing I showed, but it sure as hell beats me.

thing is, the stages he showed are consistant with what you'd do and how it would look if you were tracing, also, he dodges by never specifically saying that that isn't what he does.

I give him credit for taking the time, but it isn't anything that takes talent or skill.
 

archcommus

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Originally posted by: Dubb
Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Dubb
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
wow, that takes talent and a lot of it

no it doesn't. all he did was trace images. If anything, it just took alot of time. but it in no way requires any real artistic skill or talent.
Why do you have to be such a dumbass. He says a number of times that's not what he did at all.

I glanced through his page and I never saw him say that he doesn't trace a preexisting image. he talks about how he shades and textures things, but that isn't hard when you're pulling the color value right off an image.

plus, if you just look at it, it's obvious. digitally traced imaged have a look (really it's the absence of the artist's style) that just doesn't happen when starting from scratch or by looking at an image.

thanks for the insult, poophead.
Ahh, sorry. It's not that proof page where he says he didn't trace anything, it's this page.
 

Dubb

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Ahh, sorry. It's not that proof page where he says he didn't trace anything, it's this page.

he never actually says that that isn't what he does. see my edit.
 

archcommus

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Originally posted by: Dubb
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Ahh, sorry. It's not that proof page where he says he didn't trace anything, it's this page.

he never actually says that that isn't what he does. see my edit.
copied images and drew over them is pretty much the definition of tracing, so I don't think he dodges specifically mentioning that he doesn't trace.
 

Dubb

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Dubb
Originally posted by: archcommus
Ahh, sorry. It's not that proof page where he says he didn't trace anything, it's this page.

he never actually says that that isn't what he does. see my edit.
copied images and drew over them is pretty much the definition of tracing, so I don't think he dodges specifically mentioning that he doesn't trace.

all he says is that he doesn't understand where people got that idea, which is very obviously dodge so he doesn't have to deny it outright. or he's an idiot, or thinks the people looking at it are idiots.

Given what he's said and the stages he showed, here's what he does:

1) open image, trace lines and major forms, use mid-tone colors pulled from the image (this is the first stage he shows)

2) open original image a second time and use that to pull color values for shading and texturing.

he probably thinks that since he builds up the shading and texturing by pulling color values only, that that isn't tracing... but he still traced the base forms and lines. argue semantics if you want, but it's still nothing that requires skill or talent.