OMFG OLED DISPLAY SPECS AND PIC LEAKED!!!!!!

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: xtknight
This is the PR about it, over a year ago: http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/Pres...essRelease.asp?seq=20050104_0000089670

Moreover, the OLED uses Amorphous Silicon (a-Si) technology; thus can be mass-produced within Samsung's existing TFT-LCD lines. Samsung Electronics has now applied the a-Si technology to produce large-sized OLED panels within 4 th and 5 th generation production lines.

There's this too: http://www.shopping.com/xPF-AOMNI_Corporation_ATV_OW_17LT01GO

Huh- same picture used a year ago! The second link is only 17"?? That suprises me as I would think with a new tech like this esp. , 19" would be the starting size and move up from there..
P.S. nice find OP!

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Thor86

Originally posted by: igowerf
Why isn't 1080p listed in the supported formats?

If the native resolution in pixels is 1920x1080, then it should be listed.

its not... says 1080i only..
720P is avail..

Exactly, so that is why I think this is either a mistake, or someone posting crap.

If the unit is only capable of 1080i and 720p, then the native resolution of the tv should be 1280x720 in pixels.

 

[darkswordsman17]

It could be an issue with the ports. If it only has component and HDMI 1.1 ports, then it could have a full 1920x1080 resolution but not be able to support 1080p. I would expect it to either have VGA, DVI, or else one of the newer HDMI ports that can support 1080p at least, but then again this thing might have been developed/designed a year ago and is just now being put into production. And of course it could just be that they omitted 1080p when listing the specs.

 

[gsellis]

AFAIK, 1080p is not a broadcast format. It lists broadcast format supported. It may well support 1080p through HDV when it is available as a settop player.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Thor86

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Thor86

Originally posted by: igowerf
Why isn't 1080p listed in the supported formats?

If the native resolution in pixels is 1920x1080, then it should be listed.

its not... says 1080i only..
720P is avail..

Exactly, so that is why I think this is either a mistake, or someone posting crap.

If the unit is only capable of 1080i and 720p, then the native resolution of the tv should be 1280x720 in pixels.

well I'm not posting crap. I just was shopping around for flat panel TV's and there were some options on the side...


Plasma
LCD
OLED
etc..


I thought WTF OLED? That must be a typo or somethin. So I clicked on it and there was the monitor. Take shopping.com's information as you like.

 

[tuteja1986]

http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_spc/Samsung-OLED-21-in-Television/24955667.html

 

[Dman877]

Those specs aren't that great... its a 1080p 21 inch monitor. You have to understand that for hdtv's, samsung likes to list peak contrast instead of real contrast ratio's. 5000:1 isn't comparable to what you see listed for most displays. Let's wait for a price before we start salivating over this thing.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_spc/Samsung-OLED-21-in-Television/24955667.html

wow no 1080P on those specs either.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_spc/Samsung-OLED-21-in-Television/24955667.html

wow no 1080P on those specs either.

Again, it list broadcast format as in TV transmission. I do not remember that any broadcaster wants 60 frames progressive at 1080 to go across the airwaves, cable, or satellite. It takes too much bandwidth. It should do 1080p as it fits the frame.

 

[Steelski]

Originally posted by: Dman877
Those specs aren't that great... its a 1080p 21 inch monitor. You have to understand that for hdtv's, samsung likes to list peak contrast instead of real contrast ratio's. 5000:1 isn't comparable to what you see listed for most displays. Let's wait for a price before we start salivating over this thing.

Firstly, I would dissagree about the contrast ratio. the contrast is likley to be more real than you think. Especially when you consider that OLED tech does not have backlighting. Meaning, each pixel has the potential to be switched on and off, or rather, light and no light. wheres in a normal backlit LCD, light and some light is the option(except the exceptional brightside).

Secodly, this is about as good as consumer monitors get, it has a better DPI than any 23" monitor i have ever seen!!!! the resolution for a 21 inch is great, there are simply no two ways about it.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Steelski

Originally posted by: Dman877
Those specs aren't that great... its a 1080p 21 inch monitor. You have to understand that for hdtv's, samsung likes to list peak contrast instead of real contrast ratio's. 5000:1 isn't comparable to what you see listed for most displays. Let's wait for a price before we start salivating over this thing.

Firstly, I would dissagree about the contrast ratio. the contrast is likley to be more real than you think. Especially when you consider that OLED tech does not have backlighting. Meaning, each pixel has the potential to be switched on and off, or rather, light and no light. wheres in a normal backlit LCD, light and some light is the option(except the exceptional brightside).

It doesn't sound totally unreasonable for an OLED display -- although almost all contrast ratio numbers are really, really inflated. "800:1" or "1000:1" LCD displays often turn out to be more in the 200-300:1 range when tested in real-world conditions.

Someone above asked about why it is listed as ~6MP when it's 1920x1080. They're counting each subpixel as an independent 'pixel'; 1920x1080x3 = ~6.2 million.

Almost any "HDTV" with 1920x1080 resolution can actually drive 1080p, but it's usually not listed in the specs. There are a few that can only deal with 1080i internally, though. Since 1080p is not an official broadcast/HDTV spec right now, it's usually not listed as an available resolution choice even if the display can really do it. But there's no way to know for sure until it is available (which, right now, it is not).

Just as a note, I saw nothing on OLED displays at CES this year (in January). This makes me think we are still a while off from seeing consumer-purchasable OLED monitors/HDTVs -- but sometimes the technology moves very fast!

I did see several prototype 720p SED monitors, which are supposed to be available (at least in Japan) by Q3 or Q4 of this year.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Dman877
5000:1 isn't comparable to what you see listed for most displays.

And how many OLEDs are on the market to compare it to? Oh thats right. None. 5000:1 seems about right for OLED.

Let's wait for a price before we start salivating over this thing.

Price could only make this thing better. If its affordable then you wouldn't want anything else. If its not then its still going to be one of the best displays out there, you just can't afford it. I'm not going to stop salivating over quad SLI even though I can't afford it.

The major dissapointing thing to me about this, is that its a "television", it might not be that great even if it can be used as a PC monitor (although HD gaming and HD movies would probably be killer)

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_spc/Samsung-OLED-21-in-Television/24955667.html

wow no 1080P on those specs either.

Again, it list broadcast format as in TV transmission. I do not remember that any broadcaster wants 60 frames progressive at 1080 to go across the airwaves, cable, or satellite. It takes too much bandwidth. It should do 1080p as it fits the frame.

thats BS all new TVs list true resses.. it isnt just broadcast specs..
people do have other devices that will take advantage of 1080P
and therea re a ton of Tvs out there that list it..
this TV just cant do 1080P apparently making it crap for a new gen set..

 

[ForumMaster]

it apperantly is not a true 1080p panel. the contrast does seem a little "too god damn high" to put it bluntly. the specs are great, but what about price? also, i wonder what the pixel size is. after all, they are putting 6.2 million pixels in a 21" panel...that resolution is usually 24" and above only.

 

[gsellis]

This talks about what they demoed 6 months ago here

Maybe this will be announced completely at CeBit.

Edit - or NAB on 24Apr.

 

[therealnickdanger]

Not to dump on OLED at all - I think it will have its place in the future of display technology - but I'm going to wait for SED to mature. Above CRT-performance in a display that is thinner and consumes less power than a plasma? Count me in. I love my current plasma, but I only bought it to tide me over...

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
it apperantly is not a true 1080p panel.

Like it was stated before, 1080p isn't a broadcast standard, so it doesn't really matter anyway - however, displaying 1920x1080 at a 1:1 pixel ratio should not be a problem via HDMI or DVI from a PC.

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
after all, they are putting 6.2 million pixels in a 21" panel...that resolution is usually 24" and above only.

There are many 17" laptop screens with a true 1920x1200 diplay resolution...

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: therealnickdanger
Not to dump on OLED at all - I think it will have its place in the future of display technology - but I'm going to wait for SED to mature. Above CRT-performance in a display that is thinner and consumes less power than a plasma? Count me in. I love my current plasma, but I only bought it to tide me over...

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
it apperantly is not a true 1080p panel.

Like it was stated before, 1080p isn't a broadcast standard, so it doesn't really matter anyway - however, displaying 1920x1080 at a 1:1 pixel ratio should not be a problem via HDMI or DVI from a PC.

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
after all, they are putting 6.2 million pixels in a 21" panel...that resolution is usually 24" and above only.

There are many 17" laptop screens with a true 1920x1200 diplay resolution...

And even some 15.4" ones that have 1920x1200.

Most TVs if they can do 1080p list it though. This is as valid as the normal HD broadcast resolutions because of Blu-Ray/HD-DVD. 1080p has become sort of a marketing buzzword as well. I even remember getting a flyer for one of the rental places and it made a big deal about getting a TV that could do 1080p. If a TV can do 1080p, then chances are they will list it.

There's definitely some sort of an issue with SED/OLED that makes them not feasible for production yet. Hopefully they'll start to make some big breakthroughs and get this technology, and it live up to it potential, out as soon as possible. It sounds like a win/win situation for the companies. I mean they should be cheaper to produce, and so even if they sold them for the same prices as LCDs, people wouldn't mind if they were getting a much better display, so they could in theory rack up a ton of profit and it would be good for consumers as well since we would get better monitors for the same price.