omfg LA police are(were) really stupid.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
Okay, now let's be fair; anyone that beats their wife deserves a long jail sentence and a long beating. But any wife that falsely reports her husband (especially after she hits him) deserves the same.

I'd say the woman deserves a harsher punishment. A man's life has a huge black mark on it if there's even a suspicion or an allegation that he hit his wife. Especially if he's taken to prison and it has to go to trial.

Same thing if a woman falsely accuses a man of rape, but on a much more severe level for the man.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

What happened when you turned him in?

Didn't get a good look at the badge for city or sheriff's logos.
Seeing as how Sac PD just had an officer hit (kill) and run a young kid, then get busted drunk, I can imagine more than one Captain has told every watch to mind their driving habits.

 

[alm4rr]

don't need to knock and annouce

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

What happened when you turned him in?

Didn't get a good look at the badge for city or sheriff's logos.
Seeing as how Sac PD just had an officer hit (kill) and run a young kid, then get busted drunk, I can imagine more than one Captain has told every watch to mind their driving habits.

News link?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

What happened when you turned him in?

Didn't get a good look at the badge for city or sheriff's logos.
Seeing as how Sac PD just had an officer hit (kill) and run a young kid, then get busted drunk, I can imagine more than one Captain has told every watch to mind their driving habits.

News link?

I found this, doesn't say anything about being drunk.

http://www.kcra.com/news/4554164/detail.html

Looks like he was drunk. Sorry I can't read tonight guys.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

reminds me of how child services try to turn children on their parents and when the child denies it they say the child is just hiding it because they are scared (most of the time, not all)

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

What happened when you turned him in?

Didn't get a good look at the badge for city or sheriff's logos.
Seeing as how Sac PD just had an officer hit (kill) and run a young kid, then get busted drunk, I can imagine more than one Captain has told every watch to mind their driving habits.

News link?

Try sacbee.com. I'd search for you but I am on dial up

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
reminds me of how child services try to turn children on their parents and when the child denies it they say the child is just hiding it because they are scared (most of the time, not all)

Do you have any actual perspective on this or are you just speculating?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: BigJ
I found this, doesn't say anything about being drunk.

http://www.kcra.com/news/4554164/detail.html

"CHP officials said March failed a field sobriety test at the scene."

Ridiculous. *shakes head*

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: BigJ
I found this, doesn't say anything about being drunk.

http://www.kcra.com/news/4554164/detail.html

"CHP officials said March failed a field sobriety test at the scene."

Ridiculous. *shakes head*

Looks like I can't read tonight.

 

[KrillBee]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: KrillBee

Originally posted by: bradruth
Doesn't sound like a lot of detail to that story.

Face it, your profession is full of corruption.

Define full.

I've been doing this for nearly two years and haven't witnessed one iota of corruption.

As in people get arrested and treated like ****** by them daily, who have done nothing against the law. Officers take the position that someone is guilty until proven innocent. And offer no compensation to citizens who have been wrongly accused.

As in officers abuse their power, because that's what power does to people, especially when it goes unchecked.

Officers try to trick people constantly, especially into agreeing to searches that are unnecessary. And try to trick people that they are legally able to do things that they arent.

Officers treat people like criminals when giving them traffic stops over minor speed violations. They ask questions like "why are you sweating". "where are you going" bla bla.

Officers get a 'fun thrill' of handcuffing someone and throwing them in the back of a squad car even if that person hasnt done anything wrong.

As in you'd have to be completely blind to not see any corruption within law enforcement.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: KrillBee

As in people get arrested and treated like ****** by them daily, who have done nothing against the law. Officers take the position that someone is guilty until proven innocent. And offer no compensation to citizens who have been wrongly accused.

As in officers abuse their power, because that's what power does to people, especially when it goes unchecked.

Officers try to trick people constantly, especially into agreeing to searches that are unnecessary. And try to trick people that they are legally able to do things that they arent.

Officers treat people like criminals when giving them traffic stops over minor speed violations. They ask questions like "why are you sweating". "where are you going" bla bla.

Officers get a 'fun thrill' of handcuffing someone and throwing them in the back of a squad car even if that person hasnt done anything wrong.

As in you'd have to be completely blind to not see any corruption within law enforcement.

I'm going to let Bradruth answer this, but here's a wild idea for you that applies to some of the things you listed.

Officer safety?

You do know how dangerous traffic stops are, right?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: KrillBee
As in people get arrested and treated like ****** by them daily, who have done nothing against the law. Officers take the position that someone is guilty until proven innocent. And offer no compensation to citizens who have been wrongly accused.

As in officers abuse their power, because that's what power does to people, especially when it goes unchecked.

Officers try to trick people constantly, especially into agreeing to searches that are unnecessary. And try to trick people that they are legally able to do things that they arent.

Officers treat people like criminals when giving them traffic stops over minor speed violations. They ask questions like "why are you sweating". "where are you going" bla bla.

As in you'd have to be completely blind to not see any corruption within law enforcement.

I'm speaking in context of my personal experiences, so when I say I haven't witnessed corruption I'm saying that I've seen no such thing within my department.

1. Why the hell would we arrest someone that hasn't committed a crime? What good would that accomplish? What do you think, that we love doing paperwork so we'll just hook and book whoever we come in contact with?

2. If you think our power is unchecked you obviously have never seen the inner workings of law enforcement firsthand.

3. Why would we want to do an unnecessary search? That's just a waste of everyone's time. What good would illegal trickery do us? If consent is deemed to be compelled then anything we find will be tossed out in court and no good will come of it. Plus, such incidents would be a black mark in our personnel file.

4. We can't ask questions? 😕

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
reminds me of how child services try to turn children on their parents and when the child denies it they say the child is just hiding it because they are scared (most of the time, not all)

Do you have any actual perspective on this or are you just speculating?

some friends went through this when their neighbors called the cops on them since they were yelling.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: KrillBee
As in people get arrested and treated like ****** by them daily, who have done nothing against the law. Officers take the position that someone is guilty until proven innocent. And offer no compensation to citizens who have been wrongly accused.

As in officers abuse their power, because that's what power does to people, especially when it goes unchecked.

Officers try to trick people constantly, especially into agreeing to searches that are unnecessary. And try to trick people that they are legally able to do things that they arent.

Officers treat people like criminals when giving them traffic stops over minor speed violations. They ask questions like "why are you sweating". "where are you going" bla bla.

Officers get a 'fun thrill' of handcuffing someone and throwing them in the back of a squad car even if that person hasnt done anything wrong.

As in you'd have to be completely blind to not see any corruption within law enforcement.

most of what you have here is stupid. a officer is going to quiz you if they think you did something wrong. IF you do not want them to search your car thens ay i do not want you to search my car.


most of your post is BS only thing i agree with is when held/arrested/stoped because of they thought you were someone else. When released i expect a apology for it. I understand they are doing there job but i also expect a apology about it. Though some police do not think they should have to.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

most of what you have here is stupid. a officer is going to quiz you if they think you did something wrong. IF you do not want them to search your car thens ay i do not want you to search my car.


most of your post is BS only thing i agree with is when held/arrested/stoped because of they thought you were someone else. When released i expect a apology for it. I understand they are doing there job but i also expect a apology about it. Though some police do not think they should have to.

I agree with you on the apology part. Even though an officer shouldn't apologize just for doing their job, it does a world of good by simply offering one. There are no negatives to offering one, and only negatives if you don't offer one.

 

[ktehmok]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
It hurts reading your writing. Please stop.

I concur, is English your second language?

You'd have to watch it. It shows them walking up to the door, 3 LEO's, and proceed to try to kick down the door. while saying (goes and rewinds to watch again)


3 cops walk up the stairs to the door. there are no cops up there at all.

"todd open the door before we have to take it off"


"todd there's a dog out here on it's way in" (ok so they said dog, albeit NOT loudly)

KICK
KICK
KICK
...
KICK
KICK
KICK

"open the door toddy".. (kind of taunting him)

"the deadbolt is locked"
"let chubby do it" (lol)

big boy cop:
KICK
KICK
KICK
KICK

door swings open, three cops run in with dog behind.

camera pans to completely empty apartment and pieces of door everywhere.


cop looks sad.


the end.

Again, is English your second language? Where was someone arrested?

 

[DVK916]

I know of a case of a two families living in the same house, two brothers and their wives. One of the wives learns her husband is going to divorce her so you know what she does. She packs all of her bags, and goes into her brother in law room with his children and starts threatening him. Saying she is going to kill him and her children, when he tells her to get out of his room she refuses, and then she blocks the door so him and his children are trapped. He pushes her out of the way. She runs out of the house and to a neighbor house calls 911 and said she was just beaten. The Police show up, she tells this tall tale of how she suffered tons of abuse in that house, daily beatings, etc. She has no markings on her though and when the police ask her if she wants to see a doctor she refuses. She tells the police she had to use the neighbor phone because all of the phones in the house were cut. The Police ignore any evidence presented to them that shows she is lying. She even claimed a cousin of the brothers who showed up before the police arrived was there the whole time and he too hit her. The neighbors then spoke up and said that was a lie and he just showed up. But the police didn't care what the neighbor had to say though. They arrested the brother in law and his cousin.

At the trial she was caught in her web of lies and the police was made to look like fools.

She also stole more than $100,000 from the house in cash and jewelry but the police and D.A didn?t care. .

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

most of what you have here is stupid. a officer is going to quiz you if they think you did something wrong. IF you do not want them to search your car thens ay i do not want you to search my car.


most of your post is BS only thing i agree with is when held/arrested/stoped because of they thought you were someone else. When released i expect a apology for it. I understand they are doing there job but i also expect a apology about it. Though some police do not think they should have to.

I agree with you on the apology part. Even though an officer shouldn't apologize just for doing their job, it does a world of good by simply offering one. There are no negatives to offering one, and only negatives if you don't offer one.

If i get pulled over for speeding and get a ticket i do not expect or want a apology. That is there job.

If they pull me over because someoen in a white accord was a suspect in a crime and talk to me and find out im not who they are after then yes i expect a apology. just a " sorry we had a report of a person in a car like this was wanted. sorry for the inconvianance"

 

[KrillBee]

Originally posted by: waggy

most of what you have here is stupid. a officer is going to quiz you if they think you did something wrong. IF you do not want them to search your car thens ay i do not want you to search my car.


most of your post is BS only thing i agree with is when held/arrested/stoped because of they thought you were someone else. When released i expect a apology for it. I understand they are doing there job but i also expect a apology about it. Though some police do not think they should have to.

if you think what im saying is stupid, then you are blind also.


apology, yes of course.
but the police department should also provide some sort of monetary compensation for false arrests.
maybe that will make them think twice before arresting someone just cuz they get a kick out of putting people in the back of the squad car and bossing them around.

Originally posted by: Bradruth[/b]
1. Why the hell would we arrest someone that hasn't committed a crime? What good would that accomplish? What do you think, that we love doing paperwork so we'll just hook and book whoever we come in contact with?

2. If you think our power is unchecked you obviously have never seen the inner workings of law enforcement firsthand.

3. Why would we want to do an unnecessary search? That's just a waste of everyone's time. What good would illegal trickery do us? If consent is deemed to be compelled then anything we find will be tossed out in court and no good will come of it. Plus, such incidents would be a black mark in our personnel file.

4. We can't ask questions?

1. all cops love to use their power. they get a kick out of the fact that the state has given them more power than the average citizen.

2. what i know is that when it comes down to one persons word against the cops, the cop almost always wins (unless they have a growing record of complaints against them)

3. most people dont know their rights, therefore cops (who have spent a long time studying the law) take advantage of them. a cop could say, "you are wrong i have a right to search you" and if the citizen still denies the search, they could face serious charges, obstruction of justice, etc. all because maybe there is that slight chance that the officer was right, in that they had a right to search.

4. Not if your questions sound somewhat accusing, or like you are already judging the person.
If your asking how my day is, or something thats fine, but of course cops rarely if ever do that.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

most of what you have here is stupid. a officer is going to quiz you if they think you did something wrong. IF you do not want them to search your car thens ay i do not want you to search my car.


most of your post is BS only thing i agree with is when held/arrested/stoped because of they thought you were someone else. When released i expect a apology for it. I understand they are doing there job but i also expect a apology about it. Though some police do not think they should have to.

I agree with you on the apology part. Even though an officer shouldn't apologize just for doing their job, it does a world of good by simply offering one. There are no negatives to offering one, and only negatives if you don't offer one.

If i get pulled over for speeding and get a ticket i do not expect or want a apology. That is there job.

If they pull me over because someoen in a white accord was a suspect in a crime and talk to me and find out im not who they are after then yes i expect a apology. just a " sorry we had a report of a person in a car like this was wanted. sorry for the inconvianance"

I'm not in disagreement with anything you said.

 

[DVK916]

I know of a case of a two families living in the same house, two brothers and their wives. One of the wives learns her husband is going to divorce her so you know what she does. She packs all of her bags, and goes into her brother in law room with his children and starts threatening him. Saying she is going to kill him and her children, when he tells her to get out of his room she refuses, and then she blocks the door so him and his children are trapped. He pushes her out of the way. She runs out of the house and to a neighbor house calls 911 and said she was just beaten. The Police show up, she tells this tall tale of how she suffered tons of abuse in that house, daily beatings, etc. She has no markings on her though and when the police ask her if she wants to see a doctor she refuses. She tells the police she had to use the neighbor phone because all of the phones in the house were cut. The Police ignore any evidence presented to them that shows she is lying. She even claimed a cousin of the brothers who showed up before the police arrived was there the whole time and he too hit her. The neighbors then spoke up and said that was a lie and he just showed up. But the police didn't care what the neighbor had to say though. They arrested the brother in law and his cousin.

At the trial she was caught in her web of lies and the police was made to look like fools.

She also stole more than $100,000 from the house in cash and jewelry but the police and D.A didn?t care. .

 

[KrillBee]

If i get pulled over for speeding and get a ticket i do not expect or want a apology. That is there job.

If they pull me over because someoen in a white accord was a suspect in a crime and talk to me and find out im not who they are after then yes i expect a apology. just a " sorry we had a report of a person in a car like this was wanted. sorry for the inconvianance"

i agree with everything said here as well.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: KrillBee
1. all cops love to use their power. they get a kick out of the fact that the state has given them more power than the average citizen.

2. what i know is that when it comes down to one persons word against the cops, the cop almost always wins (unless they have a growing record of complaints against them)

3. most people dont know their rights, therefore cops (who have spent a long time studying the law) take advantage of them. a cop could say, "you are wrong i have a right to search you" and if the citizen still denies the search, they could face serious charges, obstruction of justice, etc. all because maybe there is that slight chance that the officer was right, in that they had a right to search.

4. Not if your questions sound somewhat accusing, or like you are already judging the person.
If your asking how my day is, or something thats fine, but of course cops rarely if ever do that.

1. Thanks for telling me what I love. I really needed that cleared up. Really. Thanks.

2. Do you know why the cop's word is generally more accepted than the citizen's? Because people constantly lie for their own benefit whether they try to or not. In most cases the officer has nothing to gain by lying. Why would we want someone falsly imprisoned? We're people and we wouldn't want that to happen to us.

3. Actually, we can't say that. That would be compelling someone to consent, which would be illegal. Then no matter what we charged them with would be tossed out of court and we could be charged ourselves.

4. So you're saying our questions have to have a certain tone? That's not the case. Hell, we can lie to people or bluff if it's necessary to do so. Oh, and I ask how people are doing all the time if they say hello to me.

 

[EmperorIQ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
That's life in the USA. All a woman has to do is claim a man hit her and he goes to jail.

A friend of mine was married to a psycho woman for a while. One day she starts hitting and clawing him. He pushed her away. She calls the police. Cops show up, see him bleeding and bruised, see no marks on her, and proceed to arrest him. He has a domestic violence charge on his record to this day.

A few months ago, ex-wife gets out of prison (for other reasons), she comes over to visit the daughter (my friend has sole custody and he had to fight for that despite her being a psycho druggie in prison). Ex-wife proceeds to attack him again in front of the daughter. He stands there and takes it while his daughter is screaming for her to stop. After she finally quits and leaves, he has to explain to his daughter that if he so much as grabs 'mom', he will go to jail and lose her (daughter).

BTW, his ex is now again in prison for attempted armed robbery.

See what great things feminism has done for our country.

yea, do you guys remember some guy posting on the internet a while back about how his wife used to beat him? I remember him saying that she broke his xbox, and one day she threw or swung a vodka bottle to his head. He just crawled to the bath tub and just took the hits. All this beating was also in front of the kids. He also mentioned that he tried to call the cops on her but to no avail. Finally, one day the cops came, and they told him that they can't do much to help him, because all the wife have to say is, "he hit me too" and he would have gone to jail. But at that moment when the cops were there, she was in rage, and she began to hit him, and they took her to jail. He divorced her and got the kids. Happy ending! But a really sad story.