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purbeast0

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: theman
Originally posted by: icelazer
Concur. Why compete if the deck is stacked?

  • Chinese cheating age fiasco
    Chinese vaulter who takes a knee landing and still wins
    The uneven bars tiebreaking schill (USA takes silver with same score)

the scoring thing wasn't a schill, they take off the lowest score from the judge and average it again. thats the rules.

Unless I'm mistaken there was one swimming event where two countrys had the same exact score for third and a bronze medal ws awarded for each of them.

You'd think that'd be the same across the board (all events)

no you wouldn't, because they are scored in completely different ways. swimming is simply timed, while gymnastics is judged and awarded points.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I find the background sob stories narrated by Bob Costas or whoever to be far worse. I remember I wanted to punch John Tesh's face through the damn TV in the '96 Atlanta games, it was so bad.

yeah its been worse. i remember in the 2004 games it seemed th ere was more stories then sports

Bah...I always liked winter Olympics better anyway. With the exception of figure skating there doesn't seem to be as much fluff.

Perhaps because most of the athletes are less well known. *shrug*
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Elstupido
Womens Gymnastics, listening to teenage gymnasts cheering their teammates.

Nauseating

There is a volume button and a channel changer on your remote. Use it.
 

xboxist

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How it seems like every other night someone at CBS forgets to turn the HD switch on and the broadcast is in SD for the first hour of coverage.

Oh, and lack of coverage on anything that isn't swimming or gymnastics.
 

Exterous

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Originally posted by: xboxist
How it seems like every other night someone at CBS forgets to turn the HD switch on and the broadcast is in SD for the first hour of coverage.

Oh, and lack of coverage on anything that isn't swimming or gymnastics.

Yeah, every time i look at the medal counts I know something fishy is going on. According to my count (based on NBC coverage) there have been only 29 events. 14 swimming 10 gymnastics, 1 long ass marathon and 4 random


My local NBC affiliate has one of the worst commercials ever and we have to see it all the freakin time!

Oh - and whatever man lady NBC has announcing the late night stuff scares me
 

Exterous

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Originally posted by: icelazer
Concur. Why compete if the deck is stacked?

  • Chinese cheating age fiasco
    Chinese vaulter who takes a knee landing and still wins
    The uneven bars tiebreaking schill (USA takes silver with same score)

Whatever the rules I kinda think same score should = same medal.

Yeah, Im trying not be biased and obviously I know little about gymnastics scoring but it seems odd to me that a gymnast who falls flat on her shins wins over someone who landed both of her vaults
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: bolomite
Bob Costas and his holier-than-thou attitude

Bob Costas is a walking sports encyclopedia and can commentate just about any sport out there. That mofo would pwn you in just about anything sports related (as long as he isn't actually tasked to perform the sport at hand ;) )
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: icelazer
Concur. Why compete if the deck is stacked?

  • Chinese cheating age fiasco
    Chinese vaulter who takes a knee landing and still wins
    The uneven bars tiebreaking schill (USA takes silver with same score)

Whatever the rules I kinda think same score should = same medal.

Yeah, Im trying not be biased and obviously I know little about gymnastics scoring but it seems odd to me that a gymnast who falls flat on her shins wins over someone who landed both of her vaults

Did she have a much higher starting difficulty? That makes a world of difference.

KT
 

imported_DocHolliday

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: icelazer
Concur. Why compete if the deck is stacked?

  • Chinese cheating age fiasco
    Chinese vaulter who takes a knee landing and still wins
    The uneven bars tiebreaking schill (USA takes silver with same score)

Whatever the rules I kinda think same score should = same medal.

Yeah, Im trying not be biased and obviously I know little about gymnastics scoring but it seems odd to me that a gymnast who falls flat on her shins wins over someone who landed both of her vaults

Did she have a much higher starting difficulty? That makes a world of difference.

KT

Nope

Edit: they were more difficult but not to the point where not being able land properly would make it better than doing the easier vault.
 

tenthumbs

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Seems like if you have even basic remote control skills, 90% of the whining in this thread can be resolved.

I only have one complaint. Not enough women's beach volleyball.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: DocHolliday
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: icelazer
Concur. Why compete if the deck is stacked?

  • Chinese cheating age fiasco
    Chinese vaulter who takes a knee landing and still wins
    The uneven bars tiebreaking schill (USA takes silver with same score)

Whatever the rules I kinda think same score should = same medal.

Yeah, Im trying not be biased and obviously I know little about gymnastics scoring but it seems odd to me that a gymnast who falls flat on her shins wins over someone who landed both of her vaults

Did she have a much higher starting difficulty? That makes a world of difference.

KT

Nope

Edit: they were more difficult but not to the point where not being able land properly would make it better than doing the easier vault.

Wrong. Unfortunately. Here's a breakdown of the scores for Cheng Fei (Chinese bronze medalist who knee-planted) and Alicia Sacramone (American who got 4th place):

Cheng Fei, China
First vault score: 16.075 (6.5 difficulty, 9.575 execution)
Second vault score: 15.050 (6.5 difficulty, 8.55 execution)
Average score: 15.562

Alicia Sacramone, United States
First vault score: 15.750 (6.3 difficulty, 9.45 execution)
Second vault score: 15.325 (5.8 difficulty, 9.737 execution)
Average score: 15.537

Alicia Sacramone missed out on nearly half a point (once the scores were averaged out) based on her difficulty scores alone. Her execution on both was very good though. It was really that low 5.8 difficulty second vault that killed her. Had she gone with a 6.0 for it, she would have just barely gotten the bronze.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: DocHolliday
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: icelazer
Concur. Why compete if the deck is stacked?

  • Chinese cheating age fiasco
    Chinese vaulter who takes a knee landing and still wins
    The uneven bars tiebreaking schill (USA takes silver with same score)

Whatever the rules I kinda think same score should = same medal.

Yeah, Im trying not be biased and obviously I know little about gymnastics scoring but it seems odd to me that a gymnast who falls flat on her shins wins over someone who landed both of her vaults

Did she have a much higher starting difficulty? That makes a world of difference.

KT

Nope

Edit: they were more difficult but not to the point where not being able land properly would make it better than doing the easier vault.

Wrong. Unfortunately. Here's a breakdown of the scores for Cheng Fei (Chinese bronze medalist who knee-planted) and Alicia Sacramone (American who got 4th place):

Cheng Fei, China
First vault score: 16.075 (6.5 difficulty, 9.575 execution)
Second vault score: 15.050 (6.5 difficulty, 8.55 execution)
Average score: 15.562

Alicia Sacramone, United States
First vault score: 15.750 (6.3 difficulty, 9.45 execution)
Second vault score: 15.325 (5.8 difficulty, 9.737 execution)
Average score: 15.537

Alicia Sacramone missed out on nearly half a point (once the scores were averaged out) based on her difficulty scores alone. Her execution on both was very good though. It was really that low 5.8 difficulty second vault that killed her. Had she gone with a 6.0 for it, she would have just barely gotten the bronze.

As I suspected. Thanks.

KT
 

aldamon

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Originally posted by: xboxist
How it seems like every other night someone at CBS forgets to turn the HD switch on and the broadcast is in SD for the first hour of coverage.

Your doin it wrong.
 

CottonRabbit

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That nationwide commercial with the old lady that plays at every single commercial break, please make it stop :(
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: Injury


errmm... that's because a lot of the track and field events are just now past the qualifying rounds. Most people just want to see the stuff that matters.

Last I checked there were 10000 athletes in 30 sports.

I havent seen archery, judo, wrestling, shooting, weight lifting, table tennis (fun), and effing basketball

how much airtime does shawn johnson michael phelps and that 40 year old mom swimmer need?
 

nanette1985

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Originally posted by: tenthumbs
Seems like if you have even basic remote control skills, 90% of the whining in this thread can be resolved.

I only have one complaint. Not enough women's beach volleyball.

The problem with remote-controlling is knowing exactly when to come back and watch the event. Way too much talking vs. events that last such a short time.
 

BRObedoza

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Originally posted by: bolomite
Bob Costas and his holier-than-thou attitude
this.


And also Tim Daggett, the NBC gymnastics commentator. he pretty much has nothing positive to say about any of the gymnasts.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: bolomite
Bob Costas and his holier-than-thou attitude
this.


And also Tim Daggett, the NBC gymnastics commentator. he pretty much has nothing positive to say about any of the gymnasts.

I like Tim, but Bela fucking pwns. That guy is awesome :thumbsup:
 

Exterous

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: sleepmachine
Originally posted by: bolomite
Bob Costas and his holier-than-thou attitude
this.


And also Tim Daggett, the NBC gymnastics commentator. he pretty much has nothing positive to say about any of the gymnasts.

I like Tim, but Bela fucking pwns. That guy is awesome :thumbsup:

I love watching his reactions to the routine
 

ViperVin2

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Originally posted by: KaOTiK
NBC's piss poor coverage on tv

I feel NBC is doing a pretty good job with the coverage. On Dish Network, I have 4 dedicated channels to the Olympics.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: DocHolliday
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Exterous
Originally posted by: icelazer
Concur. Why compete if the deck is stacked?

  • Chinese cheating age fiasco
    Chinese vaulter who takes a knee landing and still wins
    The uneven bars tiebreaking schill (USA takes silver with same score)

Whatever the rules I kinda think same score should = same medal.

Yeah, Im trying not be biased and obviously I know little about gymnastics scoring but it seems odd to me that a gymnast who falls flat on her shins wins over someone who landed both of her vaults

Did she have a much higher starting difficulty? That makes a world of difference.

KT

Nope

Edit: they were more difficult but not to the point where not being able land properly would make it better than doing the easier vault.

Wrong. Unfortunately. Here's a breakdown of the scores for Cheng Fei (Chinese bronze medalist who knee-planted) and Alicia Sacramone (American who got 4th place):

Cheng Fei, China
First vault score: 16.075 (6.5 difficulty, 9.575 execution)
Second vault score: 15.050 (6.5 difficulty, 8.55 execution)
Average score: 15.562

Alicia Sacramone, United States
First vault score: 15.750 (6.3 difficulty, 9.45 execution)
Second vault score: 15.325 (5.8 difficulty, 9.737 execution)
Average score: 15.537

Alicia Sacramone missed out on nearly half a point (once the scores were averaged out) based on her difficulty scores alone. Her execution on both was very good though. It was really that low 5.8 difficulty second vault that killed her. Had she gone with a 6.0 for it, she would have just barely gotten the bronze.

An 8.55 execution score on an all 4 landing(at the very least a .8 deduction), offset plant and overall poor technique and form while landing a hand out of bounds.
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Way too many commercials. Too many of the same commercials. However, people whining about not enough variety aren't changing to the other channels, or going online. Sorry to say it, but gymnastics, Michael Phelps, and May/Walsh produce the highest ratings.

The commercials. YES.
The worst thing is that they have so much tape delayed crap...and commercial during that, which i understand, but then they show something live and we miss something because they need to take a commercial break ever 5 minutes (beach volleyball being the main live event i watched...and they go to break during the middle of the match, come back...and its a time out on the court and we have to listen to that dumbass sideline reporter talk to Misty May's dad for the 100th time).