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O'Lie-ley thinks the The ACLU Endangers You and Your Family

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Frankly, I don't care what old fat head thinks (he thinks the ACLU are "traitors" by the way), the ACLU and EFF are the best bang for my buck when it comes to protecting my civil liberties and constitutional rights.

I'm curious though how many wing-nut freeper-types would agree with Bill's assessment? If you're a right-wingnut freeper, elaborate on why you think the ACLU is a danger to America.

If nothing else, it'll be good for some laughs. :laugh:

The ACLU Endangers You and Your Family
Friday, December 09, 2005
By Bill O'Reilly

How the ACLU is putting you and your family in danger, that is the subject of evening's Talking Points Memo.

The New York Times ran an article on Thursday chronicling infighting at the American Civil Liberties Union. Talking Points does not care. What we do care about is Peter Lewis, the chairman of Progressive Insurance, donating $8.5 million to the ACLU, that combined with the millions George Soros gives the outfit allows the ACLU to cause all kinds of havoc.

Now, if you don't know that the ACLU is an anti-American organization by this time, you're never going to know. Nevertheless, I will list its agenda once again.

The ACLU opposes virtually every aspect of The Patriot Act, which is designed to give U.S. authorities more latitude to stop terrorism. The ACLU wants more photos from Abu Ghraib released. The organization is suing the CIA, opposing the Defense Department over detainees at Guantanamo and objects to coerced interrogation of high-ranking terrorists. The ACLU has filed suits against the Boy Scouts, a variety of Christmas displays, and attempts to stop children from accessing porn at libraries

The ACLU is defending the North American Man Boy Love Association free in a Massachusetts lawsuit, and has supported the legalization of live sex acts in Oregon. The ACLU opposes parental notification in abortion cases involving their underage daughters, opposes restrictions on late term abortions, opposes doctors informing police about possible statutory rape in abortion cases.

The ACLU opposes the Minutemen on the border, exposition of the Ten Commandments in the courtroom, and is against no-fly lists to discourage terrorists from boarding airlines.

Is that enough? I got more.

In my opinion, the ACLU puts all of us in danger, wants to tear down traditional America and replace it with a so-called progressive society. And worst of all, worst of all, is aiding worldwide terrorism by opposing virtually all U.S. attempts to combat it.

I say the ACLU leadership are traitors, but that's solely my opinion. Legally, the ACLU has a right to exist, but you have a right to object to it. Lewis and Soros are the main moneymen, but the Ford Foundation gives them millions and some celebrities help them out.

Take note of these people. They are definitely not looking out for you.

And that's the Memo.

The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day

Time now for "The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day," some media stuff. Our brand new www.billoreilly.com poll question is would it be smart for CBS to hire Katie Couric as the anchor of the "Evening News"? Would it be smart for CBS to hire Katie Couric as the anchor of the "Evening News"? Yes or no.

And also, I'd like to thank the Los Angeles Times for correcting its assertion that John Gibson and I called for a boycott of stores not using the phrase "Merry Christmas." We did not. "The Times" acknowledged its mistake today.

This is the 10th time this year that a newspaper has had to issue a correction pertaining to something about me. And the reason is many papers are hungry to criticize this broadcast.

Of course we find that ridiculous. You, however, may not.
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The guys is a walking contradiction. Anyone that is stupid enough to fall for his crap is an idiot and unsalvagable. The blind following the blind.
 
Keep in mind that this is a guy who thinks talking about his penis on the phone to a subordinate if ok too!
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Keep in mind that this is a guy who thinks talking about his penis on the phone to a subordinate if ok too!
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I always wondered why Fox News didn't fire him for that...and why people on the "moral right" would keep watching him.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Keep in mind that this is a guy who thinks talking about his penis on the phone to a subordinate if ok too!
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I always wondered why Fox News didn't fire him for that...and why people on the "moral right" would keep watching him.
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They have selective vision and hearing. That's how they manage to adhere to the bible, while ignoring most of it.
 
Also, people who attack the ACLU and similar organizations in favor of giving more power to the government are probably a bigger danger to you and your family than the ACLU ever could be. You defend freedom by defending freedom, not just by "getting the terrorists". Otherwise, even if we win, we could lose.
 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Keep in mind that this is a guy who thinks talking about his penis on the phone to a subordinate if ok too!
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I always wondered why Fox News didn't fire him for that...and why people on the "moral right" would keep watching him.
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They have selective vision and hearing. That's how they manage to adhere to the bible, while ignoring most of it.
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Heh, that's a good point. I've always wondered about the bible too. Jesus had a lot of good ideas about helping the least among us and refraining from judging people and all that good stuff...but a lot of that seems to be missing from the religious right.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Also, people who attack the ACLU and similar organizations in favor of giving more power to the government are probably a bigger danger to you and your family than the ACLU ever could be. You defend freedom by defending freedom, not just by "getting the terrorists". Otherwise, even if we win, we could lose.
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Exactly, remember when the Right was actually concerned with a big Federal Government.
 
Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Also, people who attack the ACLU and similar organizations in favor of giving more power to the government are probably a bigger danger to you and your family than the ACLU ever could be. You defend freedom by defending freedom, not just by "getting the terrorists". Otherwise, even if we win, we could lose.
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Exactly, remember when the Right was actually concerned with a big Federal Government.
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Indeed, and they were right...and so was Washington when he said that government is like fire, a handy servent, but a dangerous master. I think that the government is made up of a lot of people of good will who really do want to help us, even (or perhaps especially) the intelligence and police agencies that are being handed more power. But at the end of the day, I'd rather trust in laws that keep them in check, instead of their good will. That's really the foundation of our system of government. Monarchy is great when you have a good king, history has shown that, but relying on having a good king is foolish.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Indeed, and they were right...and so was Washington when he said that government is like fire, a handy servent, but a dangerous master. I think that the government is made up of a lot of people of good will who really do want to help us, even (or perhaps especially) the intelligence and police agencies that are being handed more power. But at the end of the day, I'd rather trust in laws that keep them in check, instead of their good will. That's really the foundation of our system of government. Monarchy is great when you have a good king, history has shown that, but relying on having a good king is foolish.
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Yup, that's actually why I think it is more important for people to get involved in local politics rather than Federal. Our States need to start trying to reclaim the power that the Fed gov has taken as their own.
 
Originally posted by: azazyel
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Indeed, and they were right...and so was Washington when he said that government is like fire, a handy servent, but a dangerous master. I think that the government is made up of a lot of people of good will who really do want to help us, even (or perhaps especially) the intelligence and police agencies that are being handed more power. But at the end of the day, I'd rather trust in laws that keep them in check, instead of their good will. That's really the foundation of our system of government. Monarchy is great when you have a good king, history has shown that, but relying on having a good king is foolish.
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Yup, that's actually why I think it is more important for people to get involved in local politics rather than Federal. Our States need to start trying to reclaim the power that the Fed gov has taken as their own.
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And it is a lot easier to be an ideas man (or woman) at a local level. At the national level, it really is all politics. At the local level, someone with good ideas might actually get in.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford

Yup, that's actually why I think it is more important for people to get involved in local politics rather than Federal. Our States need to start trying to reclaim the power that the Fed gov has taken as their own.
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And it is a lot easier to be an ideas man (or woman) at a local level. At the national level, it really is all politics. At the local level, someone with good ideas might actually get in.[/quote]

:thumbsup:

 
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Keep in mind that this is a guy who thinks talking about his penis on the phone to a subordinate if ok too!
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I always wondered why Fox News didn't fire him for that...and why people on the "moral right" would keep watching him.
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They have selective vision and hearing. That's how they manage to adhere to the bible, while ignoring most of it.
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Truer words have seldom been spoken. Man. That sums it up just...perfectly.
 
Some people understand that protecting civil liberties and the Constitution sometimes involves defending slime, like Rush or MAMBLA. Others judge the merits of the case solely on the parties involved and not the legal ramifications. O'Lielly is appealing to a knee jerk ignorant part of the population who really have no idea what liberties are or what the Constitution actually means. Just because you say something helps fight terrorism, doesn't make it a good idea. If you want to absolutely "safe" regardless of liberties and freedom, it's not that hard to imagine a military dictatorship and a government controlled media, by definition this type of government is less prone to terrorism. Sometime being free includes security holes, that's the chance we take and take it freely. If you change your life in response to the bogey man (terrorist). I think they have done their job and have won.
 
It's a sad testament to our collective intellect that such an idiot continues to be watched and quoted, and listened to. Fox doesn't care as long as he brings in the viewers and the money. They'll drop him a like a worm turd once his viewership drops, but, unfortunately, I don't see this happening soon. He is very good at playing the strings of the average American: terror! fear! antiamerican! pedophiles! NAMBLA! terror! the Muslim under your bed! Christmas! terror!

Did anyone see Jon Stewart's performance a night or two ago? I almost choked laughing, he made such a joke of O'Reilly and the punchline about the Osama's Homo-bortion Pot and Commie Jizzporium almost killed me.

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He's on because people watch him. I don't think anyone cares if those who watch his show give themselves a stroke over what he says or agrees with it, so long as they keep watching. And they do. Check out the Fox News ratings and you'll see they're blowing away the competition.
 
Why'd you post this if you don't care what he thinks?

I dont think ACLU is anti-American, but I do think some of the stuff they support is over the top for sure. Luckily, most of the stuff they advocate will never come into fruition.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Why'd you post this if you don't care what he thinks?

I dont think ACLU is anti-American, but I do think some of the stuff they support is over the top for sure. Luckily, most of the stuff they advocate will never come into fruition.
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I think the concern is not that WE care what he thinks, but that many people do seem to care.
 
I actually heard the O'Reilly rant last night because I wanted to catch Howard Stern... Howard ripped into O'Reilly pretty well, but of course the interview was at the end of the show, which relegated me to watching it in its entirety...that being said, O'Reilly is a sensationalist...I don't think he honestly believes half of the crap he spews, but in taking such a strong and controversial stance on many issues, it generates discussion...and he certainly isn't shy in inviting his detractors to debate on his show.

Did I believe O'Reilly's pitch word for word...of course not...I think he made some good points in that the ACLU does seemingly go beyond the realm of common sense in the name of protecting civil liberties. Does that make them traitors or supporters of terrorists...absolutely not...does the ACLU cut off its nose sometimes to spite its face...I think that is a fair criticism.

But that is the way our society works...you have people like O'Reilly as an anchor on one end...organizations like the ACLU as anchors on the other...both keep the other in check...and both keep the debate to the forefront of our society.

A reasonable person will see that the ACLU serves a purpose in our society...people like O'Reilly serve a purpose in our society as well...neither is 100% correct, but neither should be silenced either.

 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
I actually heard the O'Reilly rant last night because I wanted to catch Howard Stern... Howard ripped into O'Reilly pretty well, but of course the interview was at the end of the show, which relegated me to watching it in its entirety...that being said, O'Reilly is a sensationalist...I don't think he honestly believes half of the crap he spews, but in taking such a strong and controversial stance on many issues, it generates discussion...and he certainly isn't shy in inviting his detractors to debate on his show.

Did I believe O'Reilly's pitch word for word...of course not...I think he made some good points in that the ACLU does seemingly go beyond the realm of common sense in the name of protecting civil liberties. Does that make them traitors or supporters of terrorists...absolutely not...does the ACLU cut off its nose sometimes to spite its face...I think that is a fair criticism.

But that is the way our society works...you have people like O'Reilly as an anchor on one end...organizations like the ACLU as anchors on the other...both keep the other in check...and both keep the debate to the forefront of our society.

A reasonable person will see that the ACLU serves a purpose in our society...people like O'Reilly serve a purpose in our society as well...neither is 100% correct, but neither should be silenced either.
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Oh I agree...I lean far more towards the ACLU than O'Reilly, but a part of that is thinking that everyone deserves to be heard. At the very least, by voicing that kind of opinion, O'Reilly provides us with a look at an alternative view, if you will.
 
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