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Olevia Killer? 37" true LCD HDTV (1920x1080) set, 1999.99 MSRP

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: royaldank
Does this actually accept 1080p? Didn't see that mentioned on thier website or the product page at Crutchfield. Only lists 1080i and 720p.

Did you read the first paragraph of the Crutchfield advertisement?

Yeah, guess I was just hoping it would accept a 1080p signal at that price.
 
hmm the 32" might be the one to get if it can be had for around $1299. I have a small apartment and my 175 pound 30" Widscreen Sony Tube HDTV might end up getting the boot soon. 32" is perfect for small living rooms. Boy it will be nice to have 1080P on both my computer monitor and on my home theater tv.

 
Originally posted by: royaldank
So this wont accept 1080p signals if you get a progressive scan 1080p Blu-Ray (or whatever) DVD player in the coming years? Is that true of all LCD sets now and in the future?


Originally posted by: royaldank
Yeah, guess I was just hoping it would accept a 1080p signal at that price.

Have someone else read the Crutchfield page to you
 
Westinghouse was supposed to be coming out with a line of LCDs in this size and rez this month, too. Haven't heard anything about it recently though...last I heard was from that big consumer electronics show.
 
Originally posted by: edplayer
Originally posted by: royaldank
So this wont accept 1080p signals if you get a progressive scan 1080p Blu-Ray (or whatever) DVD player in the coming years? Is that true of all LCD sets now and in the future?


Originally posted by: royaldank
Yeah, guess I was just hoping it would accept a 1080p signal at that price.

Have someone else read the Crutchfield page to you

I read it and it never mentions accepting a 1080p signal. Then again, most 1080p models nowdays don't accept 1080p either. Everything is upconverted by the tv.
 
Originally posted by: cerebusPu
ah...just when i was starting to warm up to the 2405. it just gets only bigger and bigger. i wonder how its like to work with a 37inch LCD on the desk. lol

I am using a 37" Sharp and I can tell you its wonderful!
 
Originally posted by: Bmott
hmm the 32" might be the one to get if it can be had for around $1299. I have a small apartment and my 175 pound 30" Widscreen Sony Tube HDTV might end up getting the boot soon. 32" is perfect for small living rooms. Boy it will be nice to have 1080P on both my computer monitor and on my home theater tv.

The 32" is NOT 1920x1080, it's 1366x768. Only the 37" and 46" are going to be 1920x1080.

And if you're worried this won't accept a native 1080p signal, contact Crutchfield (their advisors are actually pretty damned helpful even if you don't end up buying anything) or Benq itself to make sure - it'd make no sense if this thing couldn't display a signal in it's native resolution - the lack of showing it might be that there AREN'T any 1080p signals yet.
 
Originally posted by: DestruyaUR

The 32" is NOT 1920x1080, it's 1366x768. Only the 37" and 46" are going to be 1920x1080.

And if you're worried this won't accept a native 1080p signal, contact Crutchfield (their advisors are actually pretty damned helpful even if you don't end up buying anything) or Benq itself to make sure - it'd make no sense if this thing couldn't display a signal in it's native resolution - the lack of showing it might be that there AREN'T any 1080p signals yet.

Argh 37" here i come then.

 
Here's another yummy thought: if Dell seems to like using Benq OEM parts in their COMPUTER LCDs, maybe they'll decide to ditch their tired 25ms panels they use in their 26 and 30" LCD TVs and adopt these panels into their product lines to give their LCD line more parity with their plasmas.

COUPONS, ANYONE?!?!?!
 
Originally posted by: royaldank
I read it and it never mentions accepting a 1080p signal. Then again, most 1080p models nowdays don't accept 1080p either. Everything is upconverted by the tv.

You use the DVI input you nub. Your computer can give it a 1080p signal

There is nothing to upconvert

 
Originally posted by: edplayer
Originally posted by: royaldank
I read it and it never mentions accepting a 1080p signal. Then again, most 1080p models nowdays don't accept 1080p either. Everything is upconverted by the tv.

You use the DVI input you nub. Your computer can give it a 1080p signal

There is nothing to upconvert

I suggest you research what you are talking about. Very few 1080p sets today actually accept a 1080p signal. There is still no definative word on this set. There is at least one Sharp LCD available today that's 1080p and does not accept a 1080p signal. There's obviously no doubt the specs on DVI allow transfer of 1080p, but it's still a fact that very few (and nothing near this price I don't think) actually accept 1080p signals. So, 2 or 3 years from now when you get a nice new progressive scan BluRay/HDDVD/etc player, you're going to be upconverting a 1080i signal out of it. Probably not a deal breaker for most, but it of concern to me.
 
There is no consumer video playback device (that I'm aware of) that outputs a 1080p signal, so it's purely a guessing game at this point. However, it appears that this set will accept a 1920x1080 signal from a PC, which is 1080p.
 
Originally posted by: royaldank
Originally posted by: edplayer
Originally posted by: royaldank
I read it and it never mentions accepting a 1080p signal. Then again, most 1080p models nowdays don't accept 1080p either. Everything is upconverted by the tv.

You use the DVI input you nub. Your computer can give it a 1080p signal

There is nothing to upconvert

I suggest you research what you are talking about. Very few 1080p sets today actually accept a 1080p signal. There is still no definative word on this set. There is at least one Sharp LCD available today that's 1080p and does not accept a 1080p signal. There's obviously no doubt the specs on DVI allow transfer of 1080p, but it's still a fact that very few (and nothing near this price I don't think) actually accept 1080p signals. So, 2 or 3 years from now when you get a nice new progressive scan BluRay/HDDVD/etc player, you're going to be upconverting a 1080i signal out of it. Probably not a deal breaker for most, but it of concern to me.

Yeah, unfortunately, with consumer electronics, there's really no hard and fast way to know if it'll accept a 1080p signal if it doesn't say so in the specs. Chances are good it'll be able to through the DVI input, but it's in no way guaranteed. As royaldank said, there's a Sharp 45" 1080p native one that cannot accept 1080p input, as with the Toshiba 57HLX82, the Sony Qualia 004, and a few others. 🙁
 
my gripes with the set...
for such a "cutting edge" set, only one set of DVI and one component? that's kind of disappointing.
also, no HDMI?
no ATSC built in tuner?
IMO, ugly ass design
 
Originally posted by: Qwest
my gripes with the set...
for such a "cutting edge" set, only one set of DVI and one component? that's kind of disappointing.
also, no HDMI?
no ATSC built in tuner?
IMO, ugly ass design

Well, the lack of digital and component inputs could easily be remedied using something like this, and the dearth in component inputs could be solved by a reciever.

No HDMI bothers me a bit as well, but it's not like it's not backwards-compatible with DVI anyway, and HDMI carries a digital audio signal - like the 15W speakers on the side of the set are REALLY going to bring out the definition of that stream. In that vain, the set not having an HDMI input isn't really a huge knock. The inclusion of a 15-pin RGB-In is kinda a waste, but hey - c'est la vie - maybe they'll rectify it in Rev. 2.

A built-in tuner would've increased prices, and most of the HD-watching public gets their tuner from their cable/sat company, making the point moot except for true videophiles, who'd be content with spending top-dollar for a more respected brand name.

And yeah, it's a fugly minimalist design, but if that bothers you, pay eight grand for the Sharp 45" or Sammy's 46".
 
Not gonna buy this because I just got a plasma, but if I did, I sure would be spending a lot more time looking at the picture screen than the case around the screen...who cares if the case is fugly? 🙂
 
The $7000 Samsung in crutchfield will accept a 1080p signal, the sharp can be hacked to accept a 1080p signal, but who wants to use hack an $8000 flat panel. Check out avsforum.com for more info.

As for the person that asked what the (x3) means on the first page of the posts, the LCD uses three panels to produce the picture, each panel has that resolution.
 
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