OLED (LCD replacement) Monitors in action...AMAZINGLY THIN!!!!

[NFS4]

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE:Q:Q

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?topic_id=7722

 

[Need4Speed]

WOW! very cool indeed....

 

[chizow]

Ghosting sucks on these monitors. Don't buy it if you're a gamer. Oh sorry, thought I wandered into an LCD thread.





PDA's the size of credit cards!!! :Q

Yah I think I remember reading an article about OLED monitors as well as the thin-CRT technology. Both were indicating that displays as thin as a sheet of paper were in the realm of possibility, like contact paper you could stick on any wall.

Chiz

 

[Adul]

now that is a worthy replacement for monitors

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

yep, i've been following these for a while. the color elements themselves produce light, so no power sucking backlight. no need for glass, you can make it a thin flexible sheet-like screen that you could roll up, they take very little power (much less than lcd's), and once production ramps up they will be much cheaper than lcd's.

all i can say is: HURRY THE F*CK UP!

 

[GTaudiophile]

With Sony stopping production of 17 & 19" CRTs, I'll definitely want a "thin" replacement of some sort. I just wish the prices would hurry up and fall below $500.

 

[allies]

*Picks jaw up from ground*

Geez...when will these things be available?? They won't have the same flaws as current LCDs, will they (ghosting, viewing angle, etc)?

I hope they're out whenever I build my new system...

 

[Ilmater]

I know it says in the article that they respond fast, but does anyone know if there will be any issues with ghosting with these monitors?

 

[The Sauce]

That is just too awesome for words.

 

[Mark R]

Does anyone know if they fixed the problem with lifetime - current OLED displays (like used on car radios) only last a couple of thousand hours and get noticable 'screen burn' after only a few hundred (hence the need for the image to become 'negative' every couple of minutes).

 

[tapir]

A lot of LCDs are just as good as what he described... I question whether this kind of display would really be availabe at a low price or if it would cost $1000 or more.

 

[Booster]

Originally posted by: Mark R
Does anyone know if they fixed the problem with lifetime - current OLED displays (like used on car radios) only last a couple of thousand hours and get noticable 'screen burn' after only a few hundred (hence the need for the image to become 'negative' every couple of minutes).

This sucks. I guess that's why these displays haven't made it to the market yet.

 

[Eug]

I don't see what the big deal is. My laptop has an LCD screen about the same thickness as that one. And mine's a 15", not a 12".

For instance, see this 17" G4 Aluminum PowerBook.

Until it can come close to matching the response time, brightness, and colour fidelity of current LCDs, I'd see it only as a niche product at best... at least until the roll-up-able ones come out...

 

[MikeMike]

"If OLED can be deployed as fast as I hope it can, we'll see monitors and TV sets using this technology at a fraction of the price we're paying for LCD monitors because OLED is supposed to be much cheaper to produce."

now that is nice and since it is suppose to be better than LCD i like!

 

[Ken830]

I saw this at Comdex in November:

http://www.symbol.com/products/oem/lpd.html

Imagine carrying a full size display in your pocket.... Probably best for portable devices like a PDA or cell phone, not gaming. I know it's only monochrome now, but if they have three elements (add a blue and green laser to the existing red one), they can do full folor displays with what they already have now. (4-bits per-color is pretty decent for a portable screen).

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Eug
I don't see what the big deal is. My laptop has an LCD screen about the same thickness as that one. And mine's a 15", not a 12".

For instance, see this 17" G4 Aluminum PowerBook.

Until it can come close to matching the response time, brightness, and colour fidelity of current LCDs, I'd see it only as a niche product at best... at least until the roll-up-able ones come out...

The brightness and response time is already faster than current LCD's; this has long been the big selling point of OLED technology, so your point is...

They are also cheaper to produce so again, your point is??????

There is no need to be such a Scrooge to new technology

http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/johnstone0401.asp

Organic light-emitting diodes are shaping up as a superdisplay: brighter, thinner, lighter and faster than liquid crystal displays. They also take less power to run, offer higher contrast, look equally bright from all angles and have the potential to be much cheaper to manufacture than their conventional counterparts.
These advantages, especially the ability to handle video, give the upstart technology the inside track to become the screen of choice for the coming third generation of mobile phones.

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/st/projects/oleds/physics/index.html

When OLEDs are used as pixels in flat panel displays they have some advantages over backlit active-matrix LCD displays - greater viewing angle, lighter weight, and quicker response. Since only the part of the display that is actually lit up consumes power, the most efficient OLEDs available today use less power.

October 2, 2002

CHIBA, Japan -- Eastman Kodak Company and Sanyo Electric Co. unveiled this week a prototype fifteen-inch flat-panel display, the next generation of full-color displays based on Kodak's patented organic light-emitting diode (OLED) technology.

The two companies are showing the prototype at the CEATEC JAPAN trade show. The active-matrix display features full-color, 1280 x 720 (HDTV) resolution; a display area of 326.4 x 183.6 mm; and a brightness that rivals the best active-matrix LCD monitors on the market today.

"This demonstration underscores the extendibility of our organic display technology to larger sizes and broader consumer applications, including television," said Leslie Polgar, the president of Kodak's Display Products business. "The visual impact of this 15-inch display is already at the level of recently commercialized LCD-TFT televisions, which bodes well for moving oled displays beyond smaller consumer devices and into laptop computers and TVs."

Organic light-emitting diode displays offer bright, full-motion images that are viewable from a very wide angle. The displays comprise specially designed organic thin-film materials that emit light when stimulated by an electric charge. Benefits over conventional technologies include higher contrast for superb readability in most lighting conditions, faster response time to support streaming video, and industry-leading (165 degree) viewing angle and thinner design for better ergonomics.

In December, Kodak and Sanyo announced the formation of a global joint venture, the SK Display Corporation, to manufacture oled displays for consumer devices such as cameras, PDAs, and portable entertainment machines. Today's announcement represents the latest milestone in the companies' joint effort to achieve widespread commercial use of oled displays.

 

[everman]

Death of the LCD?

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Eug
I don't see what the big deal is. My laptop has an LCD screen about the same thickness as that one. And mine's a 15", not a 12".

For instance, see this 17" G4 Aluminum PowerBook.

Until it can come close to matching the response time, brightness, and colour fidelity of current LCDs, I'd see it only as a niche product at best... at least until the roll-up-able ones come out...

The brightness and response time is already faster than current LCD's so your point is...this has long been the big selling point of OLED technology

They are also cheaper to produce so again, your point is??????

There is no need to be such a Scrooge to new technology

OK, I stand corrected, partially.

1) Response time: OLED is faster
2) Brightness: OLED in theory can be brighter. Not quite reality for the time being AFAIK. (You can make backlights pretty damn bright.)
3) Contrast: OLED in theory can have higher contrast.
4) Cost: OLED IS MUCH more expensive to produce at this point, and probably will remain so for at least the next 5 years according to the people who make them. They POTENTIALLY will be cheaper than LCDs, but right now that isn't the case.

Anyways, I have no problem with the technology per se. I'd love to have a good quality OLED display pasted to my wall for cheap. But that's a pipe dream for the next few years. (Handhelds is a different story, but we're talking computer displays here.)

I had one guy tell me to hold off on my LCD purchase because cheap high-quality inexpensive OLEDs were just-round-the-corner (tm). Gimme a break.

To give an example: DVD players, the fastest adoption of a consumer technology in all of history, took several years from the first date of production before the players really began to become mainstream.

When a good quality OLED appears at 19" and costs less than $1000, I might actually buy one.

 

[allies]

Haven't prototype OLED's been floating around for a while...? If so, wouldn't they be available in just a little while?

 

[Pocatello]

I approve OLED

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: allies
Haven't prototype OLED's been floating around for a while...? If so, wouldn't they be available in just a little while?

Yeah, but it doesn't mean they'll be as cheap as the current crop of LCDs, and probably that will be true for at least for a few years.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
I approve OLED

no one said they didnt approve...but the pro's dont outweigh the con's yet

 

[ElFenix]

this stuff was only invented in the last few years, whereas LCDs have been around... for a damn long time at least.

now... the big question is whether this stuff can be made into a 43" TV by the time i have the money to buy such a device?

 

[MrBond]

Sweet sassy molassy...those look NICE. I was all ready to order one of those 18" LCDs from DELL (despite my complete lack of funds) but I'll hold off now for an OLED.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: MrBond
Sweet sassy molassy...those look NICE. I was all ready to order one of those 18" LCDs from DELL (despite my complete lack of funds) but I'll hold off now for an OLED.

Isn't that from the SNL/SportCenter sketch with Ray Romano?:Q