Old people should be retested every year if they want to drive

[Regs]

Cops are doing everything they can to keep the roads safe.
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*now back down to reality*

Cops are doing everything they can to sit on a corner with a radar to fine your ass and increase your insurance while the real problems are out there racing and banging up mail boxes.

Hint: Teenagers drive like they own the roads. Old people drive like there are no roads at all.

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: Fatdog

Originally posted by: virtueixi

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

HA! Haven't heard of young drivers plowing into people because they hit gas instead of brakes and stupid sh!t like that.

You're right, usually it's more of the drunk driving, not paying attention, driving like racer wannabe's, failure to yield, running redlight, talking on cell phone wrecks, they're involved in.

They should retest every year before 21, and after 65.

Drunk driving gets you major fines, suspension and jail time
Redlight gets you a ticket
Talk on cell phone is illegal here in NY
Drag racing gets you fined, as does failing to yield

What, if anything, can they charge this elderly guy for doing? Failing to not have good reflexes?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Teens improve, old people do not.

Regardless of the age, the first 5 years of driving ARE going to be more dangerous than normal. If you say no driving until 21, then everyone 21-26 are going to be a problem area.

I would say bi-annual testing after 65 is fair.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: synchronizer
Please define "old people".

seriously...

65 is NOT "old" and the guy has a prosthetic limb. Why don't you see what the investigation brings up before you use this as a stop old people from driving thread...:roll:

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: synchronizer
Please define "old people".

seriously...

65 is NOT "old" and the guy has a prosthetic limb. Why don't you see what the investigation brings up before you use this as a stop old people from driving thread...:roll:

Old people should be retested every year not stop driving. :roll:

 

[JeffCos]

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

Not even close, i'll take any teen driver over anyone 75+ to be my chaffeur any day of the week and TWICE on Sunday.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
I say 6 months.

You can go down hill FAST when you hit a certain age.


I should know.:Q

This is true. There is also the issue about the test quality, my roomate has a grandfather who's obviously not fit to drive(one time he avoided all toll roads in Chicagoland, because he thought it was the Great Depression, contrary to what his passengers told him), but keeps passing the test. The same goes for youth and any other new drivers too; the first years of anyone's licence needs to be restricted, as does the later years of someone's life.

 

[erikistired]

we were following an older lady in a minivan yesterday, swerving this way and that across traffic without looking and with no turn signals. thankfully the other drivers on the road were able to avoid her near collisions (six times while we were behind her, WAY behind her). she finally turned off, which is when we passed her and noticed she was an elderly lady.

honestly, i think teen drivers are equal to older drivers for different reasons. when you are a teen driver you just don't know to pay attention, or you're too busy trying to look good. when you're older you just can't remember to pay attention.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
I say 6 months.

You can go down hill FAST when you hit a certain age.


I should know.:Q

Do you think $10-20/test, or whatever the exact cost is, covers all the costs for the test? Do you want to pay for all the testing in the form of higher taxes? I came into the thread thinking 1 year might be too much/excepnsive.

I would define "old people" the same as a senior citizen, so that's 65+ right? Some would argue a lower age, 60 might be ok with me too... Any less and I probably disagree.

 

[virtueixi]

Is this how you think all teens drive?

 

[Anubis]

old = 60-65 and older, and i agree they shousl be tested each year or every other at least, same goes for teenagers, fusk teenagers shouldent bet able to get their license till 18 actually

that being said my grandmother is 92 and has a perfect driving record and she drives faster then me, which is scary

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: virtueixi

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

HA! Haven't heard of young drivers plowing into people because they hit gas instead of brakes and stupid sh!t like that.

No, but they go street racing and take out innocent drivers. They plow into cars, lightposts, homes, you name it.

Let's face it, teens killing others on the road is so common, it rarely makes national news. But the elderly plowing into crowds is rare enough that when it happens, it makes national headlines.

The fact is, teens are responsible for more auto deaths than the elderly.

A notable point of differentiation is that teen drivers kill random people, while the elderly do not. They are usually involved in incidents in close quarters such as in parking lots and in school zones.

For the most part, when a major teen-related accident occurs, the occupants of two vehicles are killed.
When a major elderly-related incident occurs however, it usually involves half a dozen women and children.

 

[Gurck]

Keep dreaming, it'll never heappen

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: JeffCos

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

Not even close, i'll take any teen driver over anyone 75+ to be my chaffeur any day of the week and TWICE on Sunday.

Sorry, but the statistics show teens are more dangerous than the elderly.

Accident rates by age constitute an inverted bell, with the highest points at the two ends: younger than 25, with 29 vehicle deaths per 100,000 licensed drivers, and 80 and older, with 24 fatalities per 100,000.

People younger than 25 cause more deaths, and are therefore worse drivers... though folks over 80 are nearly as bad.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Keep dreaming, it'll never heappen

I know.

The senior citizens lobby is way too strong. It'll be political suicide for any politician to even suggest it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: virtueixi

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

HA! Haven't heard of young drivers plowing into people because they hit gas instead of brakes and stupid sh!t like that.

No, but they go street racing and take out innocent drivers. They plow into cars, lightposts, homes, you name it.

Let's face it, teens killing others on the road is so common, it rarely makes national news. But the elderly plowing into crowds is rare enough that when it happens, it makes national headlines.

The fact is, teens are responsible for more auto deaths than the elderly.

A notable point of differentiation is that teen drivers kill random people, while the elderly do not. They are usually involved in incidents in close quarters such as in parking lots and in school zones.

For the most part, when a major teen-related accident occurs, the occupants of two vehicles are killed.
When a major elderly-related incident occurs however, it usually involves half a dozen women and children.

Again, you are suffering from media induced perceptions.

 

[JeffCos]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: JeffCos

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

Not even close, i'll take any teen driver over anyone 75+ to be my chaffeur any day of the week and TWICE on Sunday.

Sorry, but the statistics show teens are more dangerous than the elderly.

I'd be willing to wager that a good formal study has never been done on elderly drivers. And 65 is way too young to start testing. I'd say atleast 73.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: virtueixi

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

HA! Haven't heard of young drivers plowing into people because they hit gas instead of brakes and stupid sh!t like that.

No, but they go street racing and take out innocent drivers. They plow into cars, lightposts, homes, you name it.

Let's face it, teens killing others on the road is so common, it rarely makes national news. But the elderly plowing into crowds is rare enough that when it happens, it makes national headlines.

The fact is, teens are responsible for more auto deaths than the elderly.

A notable point of differentiation is that teen drivers kill random people, while the elderly do not. They are usually involved in incidents in close quarters such as in parking lots and in school zones.

For the most part, when a major teen-related accident occurs, the occupants of two vehicles are killed.
When a major elderly-related incident occurs however, it usually involves half a dozen women and children.

What about the elderly guy that plowed through an open mall in Cali? I don't think it's fair to say they aren't dangerous, and comparing them to teens is a moot issue.

The issue is, "Are elderly drivers dangerous?" Teen driving safety is a seperate issue, comparing the two is a straw-man tactic.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: JeffCos

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: JeffCos

Originally posted by: Amused
I'll agree to that when the posters on this board agree that teen drivers are even more dangerous than the elderly.

Not even close, i'll take any teen driver over anyone 75+ to be my chaffeur any day of the week and TWICE on Sunday.

Sorry, but the statistics show teens are more dangerous than the elderly.

I'd be willing to wager that a good formal study has never been done on elderly drivers. And 65 is way too young to start testing. I'd say atleast 73.

Accident rates by age constitute an inverted bell, with the highest points at the two ends: younger than 25, with 29 vehicle deaths per 100,000 licensed drivers, and 80 and older, with 24 fatalities per 100,000.

People younger than 25 cause more deaths, and are therefore worse drivers... though folks over 80 are nearly as bad.

http://www.icnj.org/SiteDocume...driverstt_8-3-2003.htm

 

[Titan]

There should bre retests after 65, maybe not every year. Since many of us don't make it past then, it shouldn't add too much of a burden to the DMV. Maybe there should be a law that requires insurance agencies (since insurance is mandatory if this socialist world) to report any claims involving people over the age of 65 to the DMV, and possibly trigger a retest.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: virtueixi
Is this how you think all teens drive?

i saw two retards driving down a road in broad daylight drag racing (at about 1pm) in crappy cars that shouldn't be driven 70+ in a 35. unfortunately they didn't crash and both die a fiery death, but no cop was around to beat them to death either.

so yeah, that's what i think of 90% of teen drivers.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: virtueixi
Is this how you think all teens drive?

i saw two retards driving down a road in broad daylight drag racing (at about 1pm) in crappy cars that shouldn't be driven 70+ in a 35. unfortunately they didn't crash and both die a fiery death, but no cop was around to beat them to death either.

so yeah, that's what i think of 90% of teen drivers.

I agree with you, the problem isn't older experienced drivers but young drivers with NO experience. It is younger drivers who are mostly caught driving while under the influence of drugs or booze not older drivers. If I had my way then NO under 21 year olds would be allowed on the road unless supervised by an adult because let's be honest here until your atleast 21 your still a child!

 

[isasir]

They should make wheelchairs that can go 30 MPH, so them old folk will all just hurt themselves.

 

[Doggiedog]

I would like to see a study on how many accidents are caused by the elderly per capita rather than deaths.

I would think that the elderly tend not to speed like teens but imagine they cause a number of fender benders and injuries that may not be publicized as much.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: virtueixi
Is this how you think all teens drive?

i saw two retards driving down a road in broad daylight drag racing (at about 1pm) in crappy cars that shouldn't be driven 70+ in a 35. unfortunately they didn't crash and both die a fiery death, but no cop was around to beat them to death either.

so yeah, that's what i think of 90% of teen drivers.

I agree with you, the problem isn't older experienced drivers but young drivers with NO experience. It is younger drivers who are mostly caught driving while under the influence of drugs or booze not older drivers. If I had my way then NO under 21 year olds would be allowed on the road unless supervised by an adult because let's be honest here until your atleast 21 your still a child!

well, the problem with raising the age limit is that you'll still have unexperienced drivers, but they'll be older. and i think older folks are just as dangerous as the younger crowd, just for different reasons.