(Old News) Who's getting an Octacore?

[EQTitan]

More info from Ars: Nehalem

 

[aigomorla]

i intend on replacing my aging nas/server (X3220) with a Multi Processor Neha (looking at 16cores) as soon as they come out.

Basically its today's quadcore with 2 native quads on 1 pcb. Or thats what im hearing.

 

[Foxery]

I'm drooling, but it looks as if desktop (affordable) models will trail the server line by several months.

 

[BigMoosey74]

I have to wait for my spankin new Yorkie to become what the P4s are today. 2012? Quads are still going strong and it sounds like there will be Nehalem quad cores...just hyperthreading. I mainly game so seeing that games are jjjjjjust now seeing gains from quads, there won't be a jump to Octa cores anytime before 2010 on the gaming side of the fence. I do want one just for the drool factor though...but my wife will have my balls in a salad shooter if I ever think about it.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Foxery
I'm drooling, but it looks as if desktop (affordable) models will trail the server line by several months.

server line will be followed imediately with the high end PC, unless were talking about the full blown hardcore server line.

Then the high end PC will be a server with overclocking abilities from my prediction like skulltrail.

Then the consumer line will come out on a completely different socket labeld midrange / budget pc build.

As i said this is all a prediction, but i think skulltrail is was more of a test to see how people would react.

 

[Markfw]

I will, once the price is under $500

 

[taltamir]

and HT... don't forget HT.
And its not exactly todays quad core either... intel has so far boasted that the per core performance of nehalem would increase more then it did going to the core architecture. I am really wondering if they can back up that claim.

Intel also promises to soon release SSD drives using their OWN chips that do 200 MB/s read 100MB/s write, completely blowing away anything else out there. I hope they can deliver.

 

[Jax Omen]

Assuming they deliver on their promises, I'll probably build a Nehalem system when it hits it's second generation (whatever they're calling the 32nm shrink of Nehalem).

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Jax Omen
Assuming they deliver on their promises, I'll probably build a Nehalem system when it hits it's second generation (whatever they're calling the 32nm shrink of Nehalem).

Westmere

 

[EQTitan]

Question is how high can you OC that QPI bandwidth?

 

[TonyB]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Basically its today's quadcore with 2 native quads on 1 pcb. Or thats what im hearing.

how will intel fit two native quads on 1 pcb a la Q6600 if nehalem is using an integrated on-die memory controller?

are they going to use QuickPatch Interconnect? but I thgouht QPI would only benefit multi-socket server platforms, not seperate dies on one MCM aka Q6600.

 

[jones377]

Originally posted by: TonyB

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Basically its today's quadcore with 2 native quads on 1 pcb. Or thats what im hearing.

how will intel fit two native quads on 1 pcb a la Q6600 if nehalem is using an integrated on-die memory controller?

are they going to use QuickPatch Interconnect? but I thgouht QPI would only benefit multi-socket server platforms, not seperate dies on one MCM aka Q6600.

Beckton is a native octo-core.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: Jax Omen
Assuming they deliver on their promises, I'll probably build a Nehalem system when it hits it's second generation (whatever they're calling the 32nm shrink of Nehalem).

Westmere

Gesundheit.

Originally posted by: taltamir
Intel also promises to soon release SSD drives using their OWN chips that do 200 MB/s read 100MB/s write, completely blowing away anything else out there.

That actually excites me more than an octo-core. Maybe by then, SSD's won't be $40/GB. I want 500GB/sec. read speeds, too.<<Not my SSD's.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: taltamir
Intel also promises to soon release SSD drives using their OWN chips that do 200 MB/s read 100MB/s write, completely blowing away anything else out there. I hope they can deliver.

Technicaly it's Micron's chips, since they are made by the joint venture which is 51% owned by Micron..

 

[PlasmaBomb]

We are a long way from reaching 500GB/s read speeds on the desktop...

 

[Foxery]

Originally posted by: TonyB
how will intel fit two native quads on 1 pcb a la Q6600 if nehalem is using an integrated on-die memory controller?

Why not? Phenom is already a native quad + memory controller. The real trick will be cooling twice as many circuits

are they going to use QuickPatch Interconnect? but I thgouht QPI would only benefit multi-socket server platforms, not seperate dies on one MCM aka Q6600.

Quickpath between cores speeds up multithreaded apps by not needing to go all the way out to the Bus just to talk to another CPU core. Keeping communications on the die saves a lot of time compared to the latency involved in leaving and coming back in.

The effect is more noticeable as you add more cores or more sockets.