You people suck at ansewring the ? that was asked ( the closes one was fuzzynavel ) Just asked for some real world input on the newer CPU's and motherboard chipsets, Not that hard of a ? sorry you simple minded jerks and filthy rich punks DID NOT understand the ?
THe revies are for gike type all I want is a simple opinion on new cpu and chipset technology
is that to diffacult
is that to diffacult
YOyoYOhowsDAjello
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A good general suggestion would be a socket 939 Athlon 64 processor and a socket 939 board to go with it. Nforce4 based chipsets are a good choice.
For a variety of budgets, this is a good option.
On the low end, a 3000+ ($150) and a basic board ($75) will get the job done.
If you want more features on the board and overclockability etc. Invest more in the board. You can get a good one for $100 to $125 that will perform very well and allow you to get a good overclock on the A64, even with the stock heatsink.
If you don't want to overclock and want to get something faster, then there is a whole range of A64 processors. The 3700+ San Diego core is very popular and is a nice performer.
It's all about your budget for the parts, but 939 A64 combos are pretty much the path most people are taking.
For a variety of budgets, this is a good option.
On the low end, a 3000+ ($150) and a basic board ($75) will get the job done.
If you want more features on the board and overclockability etc. Invest more in the board. You can get a good one for $100 to $125 that will perform very well and allow you to get a good overclock on the A64, even with the stock heatsink.
If you don't want to overclock and want to get something faster, then there is a whole range of A64 processors. The 3700+ San Diego core is very popular and is a nice performer.
It's all about your budget for the parts, but 939 A64 combos are pretty much the path most people are taking.
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what is a "gike"?
ok here you go:
motherboard with a nvidia nforce4 chipset, it has socket 939(which is the cpu socket) from a decent manf like asus, abit, msi, biostar, epox, gigabyte
amd a64 3000Venice cpu (venice is the core, it is very cool and o/c very well)
1GB of pc3200 ram, like ocz value ram. 2x512MB, the a64s are not bandwidthed starved like the p4s so the timings that you pay a premium for don't mean more than 2-3% of a speed increase although you spend 100% more on the ram
hdd to match what you need in size, sata/pata doesn't really matter as the performance is nearly the same, if the sata hdd is the same price as the pata, get the sata
gpu - get the cheapest pci-e (pci express, basically taking over for the agp and pci slots, there are different speeds for pci-e, so that is how it takes over for the agp slot) or even a regular pci gpu since you aren't gaming
that is basically it
To the OP: Wtf are you like 7 years old or something? Grow the fvck up. You sound like a rich spoiled brat, and you call us "rich spoiled punks"... What kind of moron would ever marry you? Obviously, your wife only married you for you money...
t3h l337 n3wb, what part of "simple opinion on new cpu and chipset technology" do you not under stand?
ok wtf, that post bob gave em told him everying in plain simple english, easy to understand, now he goes and calls him a geek, wtf is that, dudes a retard or something, im not gonna bother explaing. the guy just doesnt want help, just wants to insult people with whatever he can because he doesnt understand jack about computers. why dont you just go buy a computer from dell and be happy with it.
After reading his original post, I felt glad to help. However, his attitude towards the responses of other people discouraged me from doing so.
Sneaky1: just because someone gives you advice that you don't want to hear, try not to go and flame the about it...
Sneaky1: just because someone gives you advice that you don't want to hear, try not to go and flame the about it...
I don't think that's a very good insult these days... 'geek chic' is kinda in.
*shrug*
Your attitude is unncessary and the initial responses were correct - don't be so lazy and do some background reading first rather than just posting in a forum demanding people take their good time to provide you with information to make up for your own laziness.
Moreover, your question that you demanded is somewhat pointless as there are so many nuances and complexities in the computer hardware industry - what do you think the reasons are that dozens of sites purely devoted to pc hardware exist?
Those sites with their reviews have all the information you could need. Reading up at those sites which doesn't take much to do and garner some sort of information before coming here.
A good place to start would be the system guide recommendations that nearly every site has which they rate according to budget. This site has it and so do others. Rather than link, I will ask you to search yourself.
My story: until 2 years ago I knew nothing about computers and only learnt because I was happy to take up the challenge and because I had worked out that it would be cheaper to build a decent computer myself than buy one - not because I was 'rich and spoilt'. I read up on hardware at sites like this and learnt myself and only joined these sites retroactively.
It's not hard - I know you can do it too.
In the meanwhile, please act with more decency - I can't imagine your wife would think much of purile name calling on forums just because people didn't answer your question immediately in the way you wanted.
People are giving up their time for free on these forums to help others - please act with according respect.
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Guys, he's saying Geek to correct his spelling mistake earlier.
Bob said "what is a 'gike'?" so that's his answer to that.
EDIT: yeah, and sneaky1 is being a little rude, but I thought I'd give him some info anyway. I started kind of a rant post and then deleted it and decided to make a somewhat informative post
Bob said "what is a 'gike'?" so that's his answer to that.
EDIT: yeah, and sneaky1 is being a little rude, but I thought I'd give him some info anyway. I started kind of a rant post and then deleted it and decided to make a somewhat informative post
diasper has a point in that we give up our time and knowledge for free because we want to....we also learn stuff from other posts while browsing....
A little bit of personal research would go a long way to appeasing these gentlemen/ladies who seem to be Pi**ed off with you OP....
A little bit of personal research would go a long way to appeasing these gentlemen/ladies who seem to be Pi**ed off with you OP....
Only thing I'd upgrade is the video card. However if you don't play video games, your current setup is actually overkill.
bummer... u said what I was thinking, except that if you were going to give that machine to your wife, I was thinking you could give it to me, cause I would probably get much better use out of that one. but, yea, build her (edit, or yourself) a budget machine.
BFonnes
p.s. it is required for someone to post this kinda response in a thread like this.
While i'm still confused over why you you want a new rig...if you are going to upgrade form what you have, look at the Athlon X2 line for your needs at a minimum....since I doubt anything else could provide a drastic difference preformance wise
even an X2 chip will be a bit pushed to give him much extra noticable performance if he isn't a multitasker.....his P4 is probably HT enabled too which will narrow the gap slightly!!!
I'm on the one year upgrade plan, if you have the money and you enjoy computers as a hobby there is nothing wrong with that. I just upgraded to a whole new machine, the old one wasn't even 8 months....lol
If you have money in your pocket that is annoying you then by all means get your self a ratpor which is a western digital 10,000 RPM SATA harddrive, Link To Raptor
I mean this is something that will boost the loading time of everything I boot WinXp-Pro in 20 seconds I boot into BF2 very easily it makes everything easier, Video editing akes a nice boost and so does general media/picture editing, copying large files on you harddrive gets easier.
My Rig :
AMD 64 3000+ Venice @ 2250 MHZ ( 250 x 9)
ATI X800XL 256MB PCI-e ( No oc needed so far with this baby)
2 x 512 MB Kingmax PC-3500 @ 250 Mhz
Soltek SLk9890-Pro Motherboard
Aspire Black X-Infinity Case
22'' IBM CRT(DVI) (black)
10,000 RPM Raptor ( WinXp-pro)
10GB EIDE 5,400 RPM WD Caviar ( FC-4 x86-64 Linux )
:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
I mean this is something that will boost the loading time of everything I boot WinXp-Pro in 20 seconds I boot into BF2 very easily it makes everything easier, Video editing akes a nice boost and so does general media/picture editing, copying large files on you harddrive gets easier.
My Rig :
AMD 64 3000+ Venice @ 2250 MHZ ( 250 x 9)
ATI X800XL 256MB PCI-e ( No oc needed so far with this baby)
2 x 512 MB Kingmax PC-3500 @ 250 Mhz
Soltek SLk9890-Pro Motherboard
Aspire Black X-Infinity Case
22'' IBM CRT(DVI) (black)
10,000 RPM Raptor ( WinXp-pro)
10GB EIDE 5,400 RPM WD Caviar ( FC-4 x86-64 Linux )
:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
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