Okay, give me a good reason why broadband ups are capped...

[fs5]

What's the reason? Why do companies cap our upload speeds? Maybe I can understand there are physical limitations of DSL (maybe?) but what about cable?

 

[imported_Mike]

$$? ...i dunno

 

[Nebor]

There are serious physical limitations to cable. The systems they install to support uploading at all is very limited, that's why many places have cable TV, but no cable internet. And they aren't sinking a lot of money into upload speed, since most people don't really need it.

That's just my theory though.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5
What's the reason? Why do companies cap our upload speeds? Maybe I can understand there are physical limitations of DSL (maybe?) but what about cable?

Uh, this isn't obvious? It's too keep every single broadband user from turning his connection into a warez/movies/porn server and sending hundreds of gigabytes (for which the ISP has to pay bandwidth fees) of illegally copied material through the ISPs lines.

 

[DXM]

Not to mention high upload speeds are given to buisness accounts which cost a lot of money. So I'd say it's a profit issue with the companies.

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: fivespeed5
What's the reason? Why do companies cap our upload speeds? Maybe I can understand there are physical limitations of DSL (maybe?) but what about cable?

Uh, this isn't obvious? It's too keep every single broadband user from turning his connection into a warez/movies/porn server and sending hundreds of gigabytes (for which the ISP has to pay bandwidth fees) of illegally copied material through the ISPs lines.

so you're saying isps have to pay bandwidth fees? So are there different rates for upload speeds versus download speeds? I mean before (4 years ago) upload speeds weren't capped.... I never figured out why they capped them.... besides copyright issues of course.

 

[brxndxn]

The broadband internet connections are run by large corporations (cable companies and telcos) that would prefer the Internet to be dominated by large corporations. One way of ensuring that domination is to allow users to have high download with little ability to upload. I've seen ratios as horrible as 3mbps down, 64kbps up.. To me, that is horrible.

Also, the small companies that sell broadband tend to also be web hosters. These web hosts can use that extra upload they save for hosting websites. Hosting a web site requires MUCH upload with little download.

 

[Mucman]

because bandwidth is expensive.

 

[Kadarin]

They want us to be good little consumers and purchase content from big media, not render big media obsolete.

 

[thomsbrain]

those of you who were around for the very first test roll-outs of cable will no doubt remember that there once was a time when they were no upload caps OR download caps, and everyone had a full 10 Mbps up and down to share with their neighbors. they also didn't have email storage limits on the POP servers. those were the days.

edit: oh yeah, and they stopped all that because people were running massive servers off their cable connections and emailing entire hard drives and things.

 

[Nocturnal]

So you don't run a server of porn, warez, etc.

 

[gentobu]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
those of you who were around for the very first test roll-outs of cable will no doubt remember that there once was a time when they were no upload caps OR download caps, and everyone had a full 10 Mbps up and down to share with their neighbors. they also didn't have email storage limits on the POP servers. those were the days.

edit: oh yeah, and they stopped all that because people were running massive servers off their cable connections and emailing entire hard drives and things.

:Q

 

[Eli]

Uh, because there is a finite ammount of bandwidth on the planet.

 

[rh71]

Like Notfred said... I thought this would be obvious. OOL here in NY/CT/NJ capped upload speeds of users who were known (according to their logs, apparently) to upload at sustained full speed (125KBps) over a couple of hours. You can guess why and what they were uploading - warez stuff - no doubt.

OOL was known to provide the biggest unrestricted up-pipe at one time and people were hosting warez servers from it.

Well let's just say this bandwidth cap put a wrench to that one.

$ and throughput stress... are the reasons.

 

[TuxDave]

I always assumed that when they were divying up the bandwidth of the cables that we have, they allocated more to download than upload with the assumption that THAT would make us happier.

 

[TheCorm]

What is your caps capped upload speeds over there?

In the UK majority of exhanges are stuck at 256kbps uploads, with some bigger ones allowing up to 400kbps but services are few and far between....the UK is a 2nd rate ADSL enabled country!

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: TheCorm
What is your caps capped upload speeds over there?

In the UK majority of exhanges are stuck at 256kbps uploads, with some bigger ones allowing up to 400kbps but services are few and far between....the UK is a 2nd rate ADSL enabled country!

Hey I always say once you experience it, you can't give it up. So if you've never experienced faster, be glad with what you have.

 

[dc]

japan and korea = broadband heaven

26mbps connections for like 20-30 USD a month.

 

[TheCorm]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: TheCorm
What is your caps capped upload speeds over there?

In the UK majority of exhanges are stuck at 256kbps uploads, with some bigger ones allowing up to 400kbps but services are few and far between....the UK is a 2nd rate ADSL enabled country!

Hey I always say once you experience it, you can't give it up. So if you've never experienced faster, be glad with what you have.

Pah....no....reach for the stars I say....I am looking to upgrade to 1mb ADSL soon, so it will be 1024:256, I would be much happier with 1024:512.

 

[phonemonkey]

Originally posted by: TheCorm

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: TheCorm
What is your caps capped upload speeds over there?

In the UK majority of exhanges are stuck at 256kbps uploads, with some bigger ones allowing up to 400kbps but services are few and far between....the UK is a 2nd rate ADSL enabled country!

Hey I always say once you experience it, you can't give it up. So if you've never experienced faster, be glad with what you have.

Pah....no....reach for the stars I say....I am looking to upgrade to 1mb ADSL soon, so it will be 1024:256, I would be much happier with 1024:512.

You might be able to get that sometime if the courts don't back down from forcing the cable companies to open up their networks to competitors. If nothing else, we might see some cheaper prices.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: dc
japan and korea = broadband heaven

26mbps connections for like 20-30 USD a month.

yup our broadband is pathetic. truely useful applications like tv on demand subscriptions etc are appearing in korea, internet is altering their society more with the heavy penetration of broadband in their society. here we get over priced capped speeds, so many stay behind on dialup

 

[masterxfob]

Originally posted by: dc
japan and korea = broadband heaven

26mbps connections for like 20-30 USD a month.

i heard that broadband in japan is expensive. so much so, that it is part of the reason that xbox live is not doign so well over there.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5
What's the reason? Why do companies cap our upload speeds? Maybe I can understand there are physical limitations of DSL (maybe?) but what about cable?

Why is DSL capped at 1.5 down 256 Up when it can do 8 Meg down and 1 meg up? $$$

DSL Price tiering is now in place here where they lowered the speed even more to 768K down and 128K up.

Nothing like going backwards and paying more for it.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: fivespeed5
What's the reason? Why do companies cap our upload speeds? Maybe I can understand there are physical limitations of DSL (maybe?) but what about cable?

Uh, this isn't obvious? It's too keep every single broadband user from turning his connection into a warez/movies/porn server and sending hundreds of gigabytes (for which the ISP has to pay bandwidth fees) of illegally copied material through the ISPs lines.

so you're saying isps have to pay bandwidth fees? So are there different rates for upload speeds versus download speeds? I mean before (4 years ago) upload speeds weren't capped.... I never figured out why they capped them.... besides copyright issues of course.

Yes, if they're leasing the lines from the real providers, then they do. But if you're talking about the source directly, like the big telephone companies, no, they don't have to pay for bandwidth... but they have different level of services. Cheap DSL for the home users, all the way to OC3 lines. If you want better service, you'll need to pay more.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: dc
japan and korea = broadband heaven

26mbps connections for like 20-30 USD a month.

yup our broadband is pathetic. truely useful applications like tv on demand subscriptions etc are appearing in korea, internet is altering their society more with the heavy penetration of broadband in their society. here we get over priced capped speeds, so many stay behind on dialup

Their countries are geographically puny and unfortuantely due to the expanse of where we now living it's slower and more costly to introduce broadband to everybody in speeds like that.

Funny thing is of course that Canada has faster and cheaper broadband than the US, so the geography argument doesn't necessarily fly so much, although a great portion of canada lives in the lower part anyway so perhaps it still holds water.