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ok, you can shoot someone if they break into your house in CA

brainhulk

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http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012...fter-trying-to-break-into-army-veterans-home/

The 87-year-old retired postal worker was in bed, listening to the Laker game Tuesday night when he heard a rear window in his house breaking. Goodwin got out of bed, picked up his gun, and walked down the hall. When he saw intruders at his window, he raised his gun and fired.

“I knew one thing — they were gonna deal with me,” Goodwin said. “Cause if you’ve got enough nerve to break in somebody’s house and they’re home, they’ve got enough nerve to kill you see. There’s no if or ands about it.”

The intruder Goodwin shot was hospitalized in critical condition. A second intruder is still on the loose. Police investigating the break-in and shooting say they have no plans to file charges against Goodwin.

I guess they dont have to have a gun down your throat before you shoot them
 
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Castle Law FTW. Every state should have it, we just got it Dec 1 of last year. Truth is they can't press charges against him. They forced entry so it's presumed they were there to do him harm.
 
Basically you can tell some random person who thought you were making prank calls to come over and fight. When they show up you can shoot them then drag the body to your apartment and call the police.
 
Awesome. I'm a strong believer in being able to legally use all force available on criminals in the act. To me this should be standard. I don't get why some places have laws that protect criminals.

I was talking to a cop here and he was saying if you make it look like an accident they'll probably just buy into it because they rather not see the crook win anyway. I don't know how I could make a crow bar inserted half way into a crook's brain look like an accident though, because that's probably what I'd do if someone broke into my house.
 
Awesome. I'm a strong believer in being able to legally use all force available on criminals in the act. To me this should be standard. I don't get why some places have laws that protect criminals.

I was talking to a cop here and he was saying if you make it look like an accident they'll probably just buy into it because they rather not see the crook win anyway. I don't know how I could make a crow bar inserted half way into a crook's brain look like an accident though, because that's probably what I'd do if someone broke into my house.
There's rarely laws that actually protect the criminal, it's screwy interpretations of normal laws that judges use in these cases.
 
In Texas, you can shoot robbers on a neighbor's lawn while talking to 911, according to this case.

Crazy stuff, but I suppose if you think your property will be the next to be burglarized, I suppose you'd have some grounds to defend someone else's property. That'd be a risky chance to take.
 
If someone broke into my house and I shot them, I wouldn't worry so much about being charged criminally. However, I would worry about being charged in a civil case. Our court system for civil cases is out of control.

All I guess the point is moot, cause I don't own a gun, I would just have to throw my cell phone at them.
 
If someone broke into my house and I shot them, I wouldn't worry so much about being charged criminally. However, I would worry about being charged in a civil case. Our court system for civil cases is out of control.

All I guess the point is moot, cause I don't own a gun, I would just have to throw my cell phone at them.

You can go the Home Alone route and play movie clips from your phone.

These stories always bring back memories of Death Wish scenes. Like the spring mounted board that guarded the window in 3, I think.
 
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If someone broke into my house and I shot them, I wouldn't worry so much about being charged criminally. However, I would worry about being charged in a civil case. Our court system for civil cases is out of control.

All I guess the point is moot, cause I don't own a gun, I would just have to throw my cell phone at them.

Castle laws mean you can't be held civilly liable. By state law, the "victim" and family cannot sue. Depends on state, but most castle doctrine laws include this.
 
In Louisiana, you can shoot people dressed up for Halloween and talking funny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori

I remember when that shooting happened, the reports were all over the local news.

As for the OP, good for that man. I am glad to hear when a law abiding citizen protects his property.

That is so retarded and why I think castle laws are so fucked when extended to property and not just a house.

Mistakes happen, people go to the wrong homes, words said hastily and angrily can be misunderstood. People are blinded by their fear of having their guns taken by the guberment that they can't reasonably understand that shooting people for just stepping on their lawn is incredibly excessive and criminal.
 
this guy had a hardon to kill some mexicans. he should have been convicted or first degree. the cops arrived about 80 seconds after he killed them.

Word. It wasn't his property, his house, or his business. He took the liberty of walking out onto his neighbor's front lawn to make the burglary his business with the intention to murder the two Mexicans in cold blood.
 
That is so retarded and why I think castle laws are so fucked when extended to property and not just a house.

I have to disagree.

What about the protection of property outside the house? Someone is breaking into my tool shed, shouldn't I have the right to protect my property regardless of where it is?


Mistakes happen, people go to the wrong homes, words said hastily and angrily can be misunderstood. People are blinded by their fear of having their guns taken by the guberment that they can't reasonably understand that shooting people for just stepping on their lawn is incredibly excessive and criminal.

That Yoshihiro Hattori case caused quit a crap storm.

From what the news said, the kid barely spoke english, the home owner thought the kid was on drugs, so the home owner reacted with lethal force. I am going off what I heard on the news at the time, and not the wikipedia article.

I will never understand why US citizens are so prone to violence. It seems that everyone is ready to fight or shoot at the blink of an eye.
 
I will never understand why US citizens are so prone to violence. It seems that everyone is ready to fight or shoot at the blink of an eye.

My brother works in Texas, originally from the northeast. I have quite a few friends in the south since I was in Atlanta for a couple years.

The south is pretty fucked, people are always looking for fights at bars, my brother says drunk assholes come up to him almost every other week and he is the nicest quietest dude, never even threw a punch all through high school/college. All my friends deal with the same shit, people always looking for a fight in a bar, and not even dive bars.

Between that shit and apparently the legal system thinking it's OK to shoot 130 pound teenagers who rings your door bell and proceeds to walk away when no one answers...... I will take the cold winters and be thankful.
 
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