OK why is Polygamy Illegal?

[Pepsei]

<< God...I live in Utah, Mormon ville USA, and mormons ARE NOT polygamists. All these "mormon polygamists" are not mormons, they broke away from the mormons cause like 120 years ago mormons dropped the polygamy thing but they thought they were better then that so they broke away from the mormons so they could still do polygamy.

Freaking A, and it is enforced, right now there is a polygamist always on tv cause of his polygamy trial. Down in southern utah in the middle of nowhere though polygamists do have their little villages where they try to get away from the law though.

there are lots of mormons who practice this.
SON OF A BITCH, DAMNIT EDUMACATE YOURSELVES, FREAKING BLOODY. >>



dude, i was refering to that sect of mormons who ARE practicing polygamy... they do give other mormons bad name...
what would be another name for their sect? mormon is just a general term to describing them, and they also call themselves mormons.... just like catholics are defined as christians even thou some people would said they're not.

just because they broke away from mainstream mormons doesn't mean they're not mormons. are mormons still christians? did they broke away from mainsteam christians?

yeah i mentioned that one person who's being prosecuted, i haven't been following it thou...

 

[NorthenLove]

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<< I think it would be cool to have a bunch of wives. The house would always be cleaned. Dinner always on the table. In the evening there would be a lottery to see which wife got some nooky. >>



THAT is why it's unhealthy. Think if you were in this situation, only reversed... you were married to this woman who you loved, but she had several other husbands. She could designate some of them to work and make all the money she could dream of spending, and she could designate some of them to stay at home and help her cook/clean/raise kids/etc. Imagine having to share your beloved wife with a bunch of other men... knowing that you can't tell which of her kids are yours also, or are other men's kids, having to split what time she actually wanted to have 'nooky' equally with her other husbands, not being cared about so much as an individual, but rather as a group or only being of worth as a money maker, not as a person [with all of your other aspects as well].

If you *really* think about it, I don't think you'd enjoy that situation very much. >>





The thing is that it would have to be your choice to join such a relationship. It's one thing to have forced polygamy trusted upon you with out any say on the issue but it's another if these people make the choice for themselves. Kinda like the swinging couples out there already who swap partners for fun and don't have a problem with it. The idea of one person ordering 2 other partners in a relationship is more of a mis-nomer I think. Hell some Native Americans practiced it. Yet in a lot of tribes things did not get done untill the women in the tribe agreeded to procced with any proposed course of action and in most of these tribes a woman could leave her husband if he was cruel to her or if she was not satisfied with him as a provider or if their was a power strugle amongest other wives.

 

[Squisher]

A bunch of wives=a bunch of headaches

I'm having trouble keeping one wife happy. The thought of multiple wives causes uncontrolable ducking response on my part.

 

[Talon]

The practice of one wife and multiple husbands is polyandry which means "many males".

 

[Optimus]

Stupid - yes. Illegal - better not. Anyone who wants to 'poly-marry' can have fun and go ahead in my books.

And yes, while I believe it to be immmoral (note that the very use of this word implies religious belief and that it is my own opinion, I'm not here to argue about the existance of morality), I'm not a big believer in legislating morality by the government in areas that cause no direct and unavoidable harm to another person (i.e. rape is immoral and harms another, polygamy is immoral but really doesn't - or at least not in a way that can't easily be avoided).

Also, poligamy would need to be a lawful reason for no-fault divorce, so that the guy couldn't use it to get out of marriages.

 

[Elledan]

Marriage in itself is already pretty silly.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

christians own america

polygamy and christians dont mix

 

[tm37]

<< Anyone ever hear of separation of church and state?


or is that only when it is convenient? >>



THERE IS NO SEPERATION READ THE AMMENDMENT!

 

[StormRider]

I'm against polygamy because losers like me already have a hard enough time getting girls. If men are allowed multiple wives, I might as well give up...

 

[PlatinumGold]

hmmm

that's no fun. everyone agrees govt should keep it's fat @ss out of personal stuff.

 

[EDoG2K]

Think how happy everyone would be if all households had 3 wage earners? The first two wages would cover overhead the 3rd would be pure consumer spending money. College tuition? new WRX? no problemo.

We're legislating morality here. Not that i'm going to do it, but it makes sense.

 

[DrMoreau]

<< Think how happy everyone would be if all households had 3 wage earners? The first two wages would cover overhead the 3rd would be pure consumer spending money. College tuition? new WRX? no problemo.

We're legislating morality here. Not that i'm going to do it, but it makes sense. >>



The income thing is where the problem is. I don't agree with legislating morality nor do I have a problem with alternative lifestyles, polygamy included; in many cases the institution could exist properly making all those involved happy. But these are often rare cases, it's the abuses that make the laws necessary I believe.

Take that dude in Utah. He had several wives and more kids than hens in a hen house. Unfortunately there was NOT the 3 incomes you were speaking of in your example. When I saw his story on 20/20 or whatever show it was, they mentioned that he received welfare benfits to help support his gigantic family.

WTF! This guy gets to boink a different woman every night and I get to help pay for his f*cking offspring!!

Not to mention the quality of life for each child is reduced for each addition to the family. With two kids you can take your family to Mc'Ds on a Saturday night and to Disney Land in the summer. But with 18 kids you can scratch off Disney Land and probably even Mc'Ds since it would cost you 80 to 100 bucks for yourself, 4 wives and 18 kids.

It's irresponsibility like this that makes polygomy a burden on the rest of society. Have as many wives and as many kids as you want, just make sure you are wealthy enough to support them!

 

[Tripleshot]

I have to chime in on this topic. I am very close to the subject. My wifes Grandfather was a polygimist and was forced to move to Mexico to retain his wives, one of which was the mother of my wifes Father. I can assure you,the mormons who practiced polygomy when it was legal did so with a clear concience and noble cause. Many women of pioneer days lost there husbands due to war,indians,famine etc on the trek west after being run out of Illinois and Missouri and other places west of the birthplace of Mormonism, Palmyra,New York.

Polygamy is practiced and flourishing in southern Utah,Northern Arizona. Hilldale,Utah,and its sister city,Colorado City, Az, are two very thriving communities. They are somewhat self suffecient,with there own schools,fire departments,police,infrastructure,etc.

One problem that pisses me off no end is seeing polygmist women coming into the grocery stores, buying huge sacks of sugar,flower,wheat, powdered milk,etc, ALL WITH FOODSTAMPS! And in there community is a bakery where they make bread and donuts and cakes and cookies and sell them for profit,all courtesy of your generous tax contributions.

A local store turned in so many foodstamps for redemption,the FBI descended on the store in force thinking there was a printing press in the back room. Think I'm kidding? My wife was manager of the store. I am not making this up.

Another problem with this cult activity is that the "wives" are given in marriage at the age of 14 by the leaders of the cult. (The one individual of note here,Tom Green,took a "wife" of 13. That constitutes child abuse and rape.) These young men and women are brainashed at a very early age to believe there way is the only path to God. They are sheltered from mainstream society,and punished severly for questioning the authority and relegion of their conmmunity.

There is no need for polygamy in todays culture and I believe it should be outlawed and those practicing jailed. But that happened once, and ran smack up against constitutional seperation of Church and State.

Read up on Battle of Short Creek for a contemporary history lesson on what to do about polygamy. The law couldn't stop them so we live next to one another not speaking to each other except in short cursty ways.

Polygamy sucks. Don't let these polygamists fool you. It stifles free expression and is as oppressive to women as it can get. Not much fun for young men either. The old geezers get all the young girls at 14,remember?

sorry to rant. Like I said,its very close to home where I live.

 

[eLiu]

because we enjoy shoving human rights and equality up our arses

 

[Aves]

<< Take that dude in Utah. He had several wives and more kids than hens in a hen house. Unfortunately there was NOT the 3 incomes you were speaking of in your example. When I saw his story on 20/20 or whatever show it was, they mentioned that he received welfare benfits to help support his gigantic family. >>

They were commiting welfare fraud which happens in regular marriages.

 

[Jfur]

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polygamy is usually viewed as 1 man, many wives... couldn't it also be 1 woman, many husbands?

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that is called polyandry, and YES it has been practiced

 

[Moonbeam]

Traditionally Islam allowed omre than one wife, but the reasons were that in those times war and social structure left many women without a means of support. A brother would take in his dead brothers wive etc. An early form of social security for women.

 

[SuperTool]

I think ban on polygamy, drugs, prostitution, and other things that don't violate other people's rights, infringe on the right to pursue happyness. If being in polygamous relationship makes a group of people happy, as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's rights, which it doesn't, it falls under the pursuit of happyness. Being unorthodox, or un-Christian should not be a factor.

 

[SuperTool]

Also, for some reason, polygamy is considered un-American. For example, when you apply for citizenship, "Have you ever practiced polygamy?" is right up there with "Have you ever been a Nazi?" and "Have you ever been a Commie?"

 

[yoda291]

To be completely honest, I think it's because of the radical christians in the US. If polygamy were to be tolerated, they'd cause a big hissy fit that'd be a political nightmare. I for one, however, don't really have a problem with this. I have always been faithful to any woman I've ever been with(So long as you don't count my computer -- she's my baby). I've never thought it to be all that difficult. Things like "I got too drunk" or "She was just so damn hot" or "I'm not getting enough on the home front" always just seemed substanceless excuses to me. Things like "She's gotta faster cpu and more drive space, however" and I'm suckered in.

 

[Nefrodite]

i thought it was mainly done out of necessity.. like when men were wiped out otherwise you'd better be powerful or choose only lousy women cuz men to women ratio is pretty close to even

 

[Emulex]

Pimpin' is more economical than polygamy. It's the new way. You keep the bishes around till their of no service any more than ditch them.

Polygamy is still alive, but is a looser-term : Pimpin'

 

[Phokus]

<< OK why is Polygamy Illegal? >>



Because conservatives want to jam their ideologies down the throats of Americans.

 

[lawaris]

I think it is Ok so far as the man and his lady both agree.....

How does it matter to others ? What does anyone else has to say something which is and should be between two mature people ?

At least it is better than getting married once and having numerous affairs cos' u cannot marry once more and still keep your wife with you:Q

 

[poopaskoopa]

I don't agree with it, but it probably wouldn't bother me if it was legal. I don't see myself taking advantage of it though.