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Originally posted by: CVSiN

sure you have....
youve bought drinks at bars... flowers for SOs rings, houses condos cars dresses etc etc etc.. not to mention the emotional investments...
dating and or marriage is all paying for sex in 1 way or the other...

this just takes the complications out of the whole deal..
its no different that the swingers that do it... in fact alot of swinger couples use escorts for the 3rd person in their adventures.

and if you are a swinger and frequent any of the clubs id let you know that at least 3 outa 10 women thta go there may also be int he escort racket.

Im a little disapointed with you guys specially the younger guys...
Im older so so is Val... we arnt 18 years old and most of you can only wish your girls will still look this good when they get to our age.

I would never flame your women for being brave enough to post pics.
yall are hypocrits if women dont look like demi moore or lindsey lohan or Zta jones etc etc they are trash to you people..

well lets just see how your now 18 year old GFs fair 20 more years then talk some sh!t...

Val came here to learn more about computers and post some stuff in here casue i told her yall are cool people.
guess I was wrong about the majority including some of you other women who I would expected more out of.

Val is wanting to be a web designer/photographer she is not here promoting herself but shes not shy about what she does either... and shes a scapper so she will fight back..

give her a chance she is a very smart pretty lady that is trying to learn the geekier side of life.

HERE HERE!
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Nik
If those "women" would obey the law, they wouldn't be subjecting themselves now would they. They choose the lifestyle and must accept the consequences.

You're talking as if they have no choice to prostitute themselves out, as if that is the only gainful employment possible for them, which is the fatal mistake in your logic.

Are you going to give me a similar speech about folks who sell controlled substances and fire arms illegally?
Ah, you misunderstand. I'm not saying that they have no choice, I'm saying that YOU have no choice. This whole thing about accepting the consequences is something that you and those who think like you have forced on those people so that you can pretend to yourself that you do have a choice. Powerlessness lashing out in hate and anger at its disapproval of others.

And why should I repeat any speech I've already given many times before here? Text.

How do you explain cause and effect, then? How do you explain "consequence for your actions" then? Why are you so intent on enabling people to shirk their responsibility? Do you not believe that people are responsible for their actions and, by making the choice to do those actions, are then also responsible for the consequences of those actions?

People aren't just responsible for just some of their actions and not others. If you don't want to accept the consequences that society deems necessary for your actions, then choose to live in another society or petition that the society change.

Don't like laws against prostitution? Petition to get them changed. Until then, they're still illegal. However, whether they're illegal or not, I and many many many others will share the opinion that the profession is a vile and repulsive way to live and to treat your community.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
How do you explain cause and effect, then? How do you explain "consequence for your actions" then? Why are you so intent on enabling people to shirk their responsibility? Do you not believe that people are responsible for their actions and, by making the choice to do those actions, are then also responsible for the consequences of those actions?

People aren't just responsible for just some of their actions and not others. If you don't want to accept the consequences that society deems necessary for your actions, then choose to live in another society or petition that the society change.

Don't like laws against prostitution? Petition to get them changed. Until then, they're still illegal. However, whether they're illegal or not, I and many many many others will share the opinion that the profession is a vile and repulsive way to live and to treat your community.
*sigh*

I post in vain. 🙁

Do what you're gonna do, Nik. I will continue to have the knowledge that being a pseudo-moralistic overreaching busybody is a vile and repulsive way to live and to treat your community. Seriously. You're just not getting this.
 
Originally posted by: AdamSnow
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: The Lord
STFU NIK, you should realize by now that nobody cares what a foul temeperd loser like you thinks

Forgive me, Jesus!

:laugh:

That's great 🙂
LOL! No, seriously, I actually did laugh out loud. I can't believe I missed that post. That is bash-worthy. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Nik
How do you explain cause and effect, then? How do you explain "consequence for your actions" then? Why are you so intent on enabling people to shirk their responsibility? Do you not believe that people are responsible for their actions and, by making the choice to do those actions, are then also responsible for the consequences of those actions?

People aren't just responsible for just some of their actions and not others. If you don't want to accept the consequences that society deems necessary for your actions, then choose to live in another society or petition that the society change.

Don't like laws against prostitution? Petition to get them changed. Until then, they're still illegal. However, whether they're illegal or not, I and many many many others will share the opinion that the profession is a vile and repulsive way to live and to treat your community.
*sigh*

I post in vain. 🙁

Do what you're gonna do, Nik. I will continue to have the knowledge that being a pseudo-moralistic overreaching busybody is a vile and repulsive way to live and to treat your community. Seriously. You're just not getting this.

I get it! I don't agree with it one bit!
 
Originally posted by: Nik
You're married and it's in the privacy of your own bedroom. I don't give a crap what goes on and there's nothing immoral about sexual activity in private between you and your wife.
Not even if Mayori tribesmen and a Spider Monkey are involved?????

Anyway, I digress. So, Nik, I'll bite. I can't help myself. Nik, tell me where I'm going wrong:
- You don't like Val because she's an escort.
- The only reason behind this that you can share with ATOT is that you hated having streetwalkers and empty boxes of condoms near your previous company's location.
- Val DOES NOT walk the streets, and DOES NOT leave empty boxes of condoms around.

You can scream until your eyes pop out of your head that an escort is the same as a streetwalker, but you can't possibly deny that last point.

Now, unless I missed something there, that means that the only reasonable problem that you have with Val is one that you cannot post here, correct? If that's the case - and understand that I actually enjoy most of your banter - why are you posting in here?
 
Originally posted by: Ilmater
Not even if Mayori tribesmen and a Spider Monkey are involved?????

Anyway, I digress. So, Nik, I'll bite. I can't help myself. Nik, tell me where I'm going wrong:
- You don't like Val because she's an escort.
- The only reason behind this that you can share with ATOT is that you hated having streetwalkers and empty boxes of condoms near your previous company's location.
- Val DOES NOT walk the streets, and DOES NOT leave empty boxes of condoms around.

You can say all you want about how an escort is the same as a streetwalker, but you can't possibly deny that last point.

Now, unless I missed something there, that means that the only reasonable problem that you have with Val is one that you cannot post here, correct? If that's the case - and understand that I actually enjoy most of your banter - why are you posting in here?

Meh, I wasn't trying to bait anyone with my comments.

I don't have anything against Val personally. Hell I don't even know the woman. However, I have such a disgusted opinion of her chosen profession that it kinda spills over into things like passion in conversation 😉

Like I said earlier, I won't get into the personal reasons. Like I told someone else who PM'ed me asking, If I start talking about the personal reasons, I'll become enraged and lose my self control and probably end up getting banned from saying some very very mean, cruel, unsubstantiated things based on assumptions that I have no right to make, all out of difficult-to-control anger. Folks say that I get pissed all the time, but I really don't and there's a reason for that.

However, the reasons I have major issues with the filthy profession have already been stated. I don't understand why people keep asking. 😕
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Meh, I wasn't trying to bait my comments.

I don't have anything against Val personally. Hell I don't even know the woman. However, I have such a disgusted opinion of her chosen profession that it kinda spills over into things like passion in conversation 😉

Like I said earlier, I won't get into the personal reasons. Like I told someone else who PM'ed me asking, If I start talking about the personal reasons, I'll become enraged and lose my self control and probably end up getting banned from saying some very very mean, cruel, unsubstantiated things based on assumptions that I have no right to make, all out of difficult-to-control anger. Folks say that I get pissed all the time, but I really don't and there's a reason for that.

However, the reasons I have major issues with the filthy profession have already been stated. I don't understand why people keep asking. 😕
Fair enough. I mainly just posted that because I didn't want to be left out of the conversation. 😉

Now, as for Geekbabe, GREAT QUESTIONS! I hope Val answers them, because I'm dying to know the answers too!
 
Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: Nik
Meh, I wasn't trying to bait my comments.

I don't have anything against Val personally. Hell I don't even know the woman. However, I have such a disgusted opinion of her chosen profession that it kinda spills over into things like passion in conversation 😉

Like I said earlier, I won't get into the personal reasons. Like I told someone else who PM'ed me asking, If I start talking about the personal reasons, I'll become enraged and lose my self control and probably end up getting banned from saying some very very mean, cruel, unsubstantiated things based on assumptions that I have no right to make, all out of difficult-to-control anger. Folks say that I get pissed all the time, but I really don't and there's a reason for that.

However, the reasons I have major issues with the filthy profession have already been stated. I don't understand why people keep asking. 😕
Fair enough. I mainly just posted that because I didn't want to be left out of the conversation. 😉

Now, as for Geekbabe, GREAT QUESTIONS! I hope Val answers them, because I'm dying to know the answers too!

curiosty might kill the cat but satisfaction brought him back ! 😛
 
Are you people STILL going at this?

Nik, go out and get a life, it's fun. 😛

Vic, stop trying to change peoples opinions with your opinion, it hasn't worked in any other thread, it's definatly not going to work in this thread or anywhere else. To quote you "you're just not getting this".

So you both sucessfully hijacked the thread, congratulations! hehe
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Are you people STILL going at this?

Nik, go out and get a life, it's fun. 😛

Vic, stop trying to change peoples opinions with your opinion, it hasn't worked in any other thread, it's definatly not going to work in this thread or anywhere else. To quote you "you're just not getting this".

So you both sucessfully hijacked the thread, congratulations! hehe

lol, my scroll wheel works just fine ! no hijack here , lol, I think this subject is interesting , I've never known anybody who works as an escort . Maybe if we're nice
Val can give us all a few pointers so we can all learn a new trick or two to spice up our romantic lives 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Vic, stop trying to change peoples opinions with your opinion, it hasn't worked in any other thread, it's definatly not going to work in this thread or anywhere else. To quote you "you're just not getting this".

So you both sucessfully hijacked the thread, congratulations! hehe
*sniff* 🙁*
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Vic, stop trying to change peoples opinions with your opinion, it hasn't worked in any other thread, it's definatly not going to work in this thread or anywhere else. To quote you "you're just not getting this".

So you both sucessfully hijacked the thread, congratulations! hehe
*sniff* 🙁*
There there, don't worry baby, Nik will learn in due time. Though yelling the same thing over and over won't do any good, he's not a dog... I think. 😉

lol, my scroll wheel works just fine ! no hijack here , lol, I think this subject is interesting , I've never known anybody who works as an escort . Maybe if we're nice
Val can give us all a few pointers so we can all learn a new trick or two to spice up our romantic lives
My finger cramped after scrolling 10+ pages! If I was the OP, I don't think I would come back after 13 pages of escort/prostitution morality debates.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Vic, stop trying to change peoples opinions with your opinion, it hasn't worked in any other thread, it's definatly not going to work in this thread or anywhere else. To quote you "you're just not getting this".

So you both sucessfully hijacked the thread, congratulations! hehe
*sniff* 🙁*
There there, don't worry baby, Nik will learn in due time. Though yelling the same thing over and over won't do any good, he's not a dog... I think. 😉

lol, my scroll wheel works just fine ! no hijack here , lol, I think this subject is interesting , I've never known anybody who works as an escort . Maybe if we're nice
Val can give us all a few pointers so we can all learn a new trick or two to spice up our romantic lives
My finger cramped after scrolling 10+ pages! If I was the OP, I don't think I would come back after 13 pages of escort/prostitution morality debates.

You dont know Val then...
she loves this stuff...
she had a long day yesterday and didnt get to post much but she will be back today!
 
Damn, I had to go away yesterday, then catch a nap from a hard days work, and look how friggin long this thread has gotten!!! GEEEzzzzz!

Lots of people with lots to say. Its all good!

I love it, speak your minds!

Thanks for the wonderful compliments to all those who said such nice things about my pics!

Hugs and Kisses to ya!

Val
 
Originally posted by: narcotic
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: narcotic
perverted old people... That's the problem with pervs, the olde they get the dumber they become.
$4500 for a weekend?
1. why would anyone want to spend a weekend with an old whore?
2. if I have the kind of cash to waste, I'd much rather wasting it on getting a kick a$$ PC.
3. you are a sick old fvck, why won't you take your illness to the Doctor Phil or somthing?
4. I'm considering a law suit, since I puked on my new keyboard as I was going through this thread.

ferck off.

Hey now, that's over the line even for my standards.

what are standards?


Those things that just got you a 2 week vacation, go clean your keyboard and your mouth .

AnandTech Moderator


Thank you Moderator - Good Job
 
Originally posted by: OmahaTaz
Thank you Moderator - Good Job
I was wondering when someone was going to reply to this. 😉

It went a whole 3 hours without a reply, and I was beginning to wonder if the world had ended and I wasn't aware.
 
though i don't particularly hold a grudge against prostitutes/escorts/people in the sex business; i have to say there are more reasons to be against the industry other than a puritan sense of morality.

first, there is the public health issue. the possibility of spread of disease through the industry is much higher than outside of it; it's a simple reality due to the traffic. true, people outside the industry have multiple partners and such but its not nearly on the same scale. testing is not mandatory for people in the business (because its not legal to begin with so the government (or anyone other than the people themselves) regulate it). it is quite possible for a person to carry an STD, not know it, and spread it. Even worse they could have an STD, know it, then spread it. Due to the traffic within the industry it becomes a problem not only for those involved (as reffered to by other posters as the "two consenting adults in private") but for the community as a whole.

the sex industry even when regulated has been shown to have many problems outside of public health as well. according to a colleague involved in women's interest law, the instances of violence against and abuse of women is much higher in the industry than outside of it. though particularly high for streetwalkers (prostitutes) it remains true for the entire industry. though my colleague didn't provide where she got the statistics from, she said the statistics were based on extensive surveying in las vegas, amsterdam, and bangkok.

in short, the sex industry causes problems with
1.) public health
2.) women's interests

in anycase, welcome to AT val. i hope people will learn to like/dislike you on your merits rather than a broad generalization that has labeled you as a member of a stigmatized group.
 
Originally posted by: kumanchu
though i don't particularly hold a grudge against prostitutes/escorts/people in the sex business; i have to say there are more reasons to be against the industry other than a puritan sense of morality.

first, there is the public health issue. the possibility of spread of disease through the industry is much higher than outside of it; it's a simple reality due to the traffic. true, people outside the industry have multiple partners and such but its not nearly on the same scale. testing is not mandatory for people in the business (because its not legal to begin with so the government (or anyone other than the people themselves) regulate it). it is quite possible for a person to carry an STD, not know it, and spread it. Even worse they could have an STD, know it, then spread it. Due to the traffic within the industry it becomes a problem not only for those involved (as reffered to by other posters as the "two consenting adults in private") but for the community as a whole.

the sex industry even when regulated has been shown to have many problems outside of public health as well. according to a colleague involved in women's interest law, the instances of violence against and abuse of women is much higher in the industry than outside of it. though particularly high for streetwalkers (prostitutes) it remains true for the entire industry. though my colleague didn't provide where she got the statistics from, she said the statistics were based on extensive surveying in las vegas, amsterdam, and bangkok.

in short, the sex industry causes problems with
1.) public health
2.) women's interests

in anycase, welcome to AT val. i hope people will learn to like/dislike you on your merits rather than a broad generalization that has labeled you as a member of a stigmatized group.
It's cool everyone, I'll take these.

I almost typed up a lengthy reply, but instead, I'll just say that neither of those things are reasons to be against the industry. The first one is something that anyone in the industry is aware of, and it would have little-to-no effect outside of the industry. If you're having sex with someone that you don't know well and not protecting yourself, that's your fault. No, condoms aren't 100%, but they're close. As for the violence in the industry, that IS a natural circumstance of the industry, on that I agree. But if it was a legal industry, you would have FAR less risk to the girls and could more easily regulate and discourage those activities. The way it is now, if a guy picks up a prostitute and beats her up in her hotel room, it's more difficult to talk to a cop about it.
 
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