Ok UPS has gone through

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: lobbyone
I'm confused now, but I believe you should be getting back your $400 not $300 when and if you return the guitar. Seller sounds like a 14 year old.

His voice sounded more like someone in his 20's

 

[czech09]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
meh, tell him the intial agreement was that he woudl send you the insurance check for the repairs. You have the mesasages saved. Otherwise, just file a chargeback and keep the guitar

Agreed. If he doesn't hold up to it, just do a chargeback.

 

[Xylitol]

Damn the old messages were deleted since the guitar was sold about 2 months ago and UPS took more than a month to process the claim

 

[Al Neri]

file a chargeback - ask him one more time.

put it into paypals hands.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Xylitol
Basically, my question is this: (Read the quoted message first)
Isnt it only fair that I get to keep the guitar + get $300.00 in cash (to either pocket or to use for repairs) than for the seller to get my $400.00 (that I sent) and the $300.00 (that UPS sent?)

So...

1) You keep the broken guitar + $300 for repairs and he keeps the $400 from you
2) You get nothing and lose nothing. He gets back a broken guitar and $300 for repairs.

Either or the two options above are fine and "fair".

3) You get the broken guitar + $100 for repairs and he keeps $400 from you and $200 for repairs.

The last option doesn't make sense.

You read it wrong
1) I keep the broken guitar + $100.00 and he keeps $400.00 (from me) and $200.00 (from UPS)
The REPAIR COST = >>$350.00<< (Although I may be able to get it down a little and pocket it)

So it costs 88% of the replacement value of the guitar to get it repaired? :roll:

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: TravisT
Maybe I am reading it wrong...

He is saying by the looks of it to me, "Look, give me the guitar back, you get your money back, no harm done."

If you want to keep the guitar, you could say... "No, i want to keep the guitar but have it repaired here. Could you please mail me the $300 in insurance to get the guitar fixed?"

That's how I read it too.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Xylitol
Basically, my question is this: (Read the quoted message first)
Isnt it only fair that I get to keep the guitar + get $300.00 in cash (to either pocket or to use for repairs) than for the seller to get my $400.00 (that I sent) and the $300.00 (that UPS sent?)

So...

1) You keep the broken guitar + $300 for repairs and he keeps the $400 from you
2) You get nothing and lose nothing. He gets back a broken guitar and $300 for repairs.

Either or the two options above are fine and "fair".

3) You get the broken guitar + $100 for repairs and he keeps $400 from you and $200 for repairs.

The last option doesn't make sense.

You read it wrong
1) I keep the broken guitar + $100.00 and he keeps $400.00 (from me) and $200.00 (from UPS)
The REPAIR COST = >>$350.00<< (Although I may be able to get it down a little and pocket it)

So it costs 88% of the replacement value of the guitar to get it repaired? :roll:

If I keep the guitar to get it fixed, I only get $100.00 which is $250.00 short

 

[codeyf]

Seller is a fvcktard. You should either get:

A: Full refund of $400 for the guitar; you return it to him.

or

B: You get the $ equivalet to the actual repair cost for the guitar.


If it is neither of those, CHARGEBACK all the way.

 

[Xylitol]

I guess that I'll do chargeback as a last resort if he doesnt send the cash

 

[Eymar]

Yeah guy has some serious flaw in his logic or just greedy. He's entitled to $400 and that's it (unless you want a full refund, he should also pay for return shipping if that's the case. No money should come out of your pocket if return is due to damage during shipping). If he's not greedy then he's forgetting the buyer is not getting a product sold as described and he(the seller) got exactly what he wanted ($400) since the beginning.

 

[czech09]

Originally posted by: codeyf
Seller is a fvcktard. You should either get:

A: Full refund of $400 for the guitar; you return it to him.

or

B: You get the $ equivalet to the actual repair cost for the guitar.


If it is neither of those, CHARGEBACK all the way.

I'd say if the buyer paid for insurance, he's entitled to the full $300 regardless of how much the repair actually costs.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: czech09

Originally posted by: codeyf
Seller is a fvcktard. You should either get:

A: Full refund of $400 for the guitar; you return it to him.

or

B: You get the $ equivalet to the actual repair cost for the guitar.


If it is neither of those, CHARGEBACK all the way.

I'd say if the buyer paid for insurance, he's entitled to the full $300 regardless of how much the repair actually costs.

It was the free insurance that UPS gives (not anything that I paid or the seller)

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Xylitol
Basically, my question is this: (Read the quoted message first)
Isnt it only fair that I get to keep the guitar + get $300.00 in cash (to either pocket or to use for repairs) than for the seller to get my $400.00 (that I sent) and the $300.00 (that UPS sent?)

So...

1) You keep the broken guitar + $300 for repairs and he keeps the $400 from you
2) You get nothing and lose nothing. He gets back a broken guitar and $300 for repairs.

Either or the two options above are fine and "fair".

3) You get the broken guitar + $100 for repairs and he keeps $400 from you and $200 for repairs.

The last option doesn't make sense.

You read it wrong
1) I keep the broken guitar + $100.00 and he keeps $400.00 (from me) and $200.00 (from UPS)
The REPAIR COST = >>$350.00<< (Although I may be able to get it down a little and pocket it)

So it costs 88% of the replacement value of the guitar to get it repaired? :roll:

If I keep the guitar to get it fixed, I only get $100.00 which is $250.00 short

He either needs to offer you a full refund (which he has) or send you the insurance amount if you both agree to do that. You both come out fine either way in that scenario. NOW, what he's TRYING to do is help you both come out ahead on the shipping company's dime. He thinks the damage is less than $100 and is giving you *wink* *wink* $100 to cover them and keep a little something for yourself. Of course, he's being too greedy and/or doesn't know the extent of the damage and hoping to come out WAY ahead, so you should take the refund.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

One of two things should happen:
#1: You return the guitar to the seller, he refunds you the $400
#2: You keep the guitar, the seller sends you the $300 in insurance money

$300+broken guitar=$400, just work out who is on what side of that equasion.

 

[Tyrant222]

why does he not send you the 300 insurance check. This guy must think YOU lack common sense or something. Hes already got his money. He just wants more, thats all. I say you take a stab at screwing him and do a paypal dispute or chargeback.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: codeyf
Seller is a fvcktard. You should either get:

A: Full refund of $400 for the guitar; you return it to him.

or

B: You get the $ equivalet to the actual repair cost for the guitar.


If it is neither of those, CHARGEBACK all the way.

:thumbsup:

 

[msi1337]

agreed on the chargeback...this seller is trying to make more money off the deal

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Xylitol
Basically, my question is this: (Read the quoted message first)
Isnt it only fair that I get to keep the guitar + get $300.00 in cash (to either pocket or to use for repairs) than for the seller to get my $400.00 (that I sent) and the $300.00 (that UPS sent?)

So...

1) You keep the broken guitar + $300 for repairs and he keeps the $400 from you
2) You get nothing and lose nothing. He gets back a broken guitar and $300 for repairs.

Either or the two options above are fine and "fair".

3) You get the broken guitar + $100 for repairs and he keeps $400 from you and $200 for repairs.

The last option doesn't make sense.

You read it wrong
1) I keep the broken guitar + $100.00 and he keeps $400.00 (from me) and $200.00 (from UPS)
The REPAIR COST = >>$350.00<< (Although I may be able to get it down a little and pocket it)

I know what you said. I'm saying option #1 or #2 is fair to me but the third option he proposed doesn't make any sense.

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
One of two things should happen:
#1: You return the guitar to the seller, he refunds you the $400
#2: You keep the guitar, the seller sends you the $300 in insurance money

$300+broken guitar=$400, just work out who is on what side of that equasion.

I agree with this.

 

[Xylitol]

updated

 

[Schfifty Five]

that guy is a douche.

 

[Reckoner]

Whatever you do, make sure that guy gets negative feedback

 

[BoomerD]

IIRC, a chargeback against Paypal won't do you anygood, unless the douchebag has the $$$ available in his account...right? Did you pay with a credit card? If so, I'd go through the credit card company to do the chargeback, and file with Paypal as well, just to cover your ass...

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
IIRC, a chargeback against Paypal won't do you anygood, unless the douchebag has the $$$ available in his account...right? Did you pay with a credit card? If so, I'd go through the credit card company to do the chargeback, and file with Paypal as well, just to cover your ass...

yes I did use a credit card, so I guess ill chargeback through that then? (Unless it can take more than just the cash in the paypal accnt)

 

[AMDMaddness]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: BoomerD
IIRC, a chargeback against Paypal won't do you anygood, unless the douchebag has the $$$ available in his account...right? Did you pay with a credit card? If so, I'd go through the credit card company to do the chargeback, and file with Paypal as well, just to cover your ass...

yes I did use a credit card, so I guess ill chargeback through that then? (Unless it can take more than just the cash in the paypal accnt)

If you do a charge back his account will go into a negative balance and they will send the bill collectors after him if he doesnt make his account positive in 90 or so days.

Pete