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OK to backstab to move up the ladder at work?

That's basically how you climb the corporate ladder in the office once you reach a certain threshold. If you think you'll one day be the multi millionaire CEO with nothing but integrity, work ethic and playing fair and by the rules, you're just kidding yourself.
 
don't work somewhere where this kind of fuckery is done/needed to advance.

As has been implied this kind of fuckery exists in every single organization that's bigger than 100+ people. The only way to escape it is to work in a really really small companies and that's not always realistic for a lot of positions.
 
No.

You move up the ladder with intelligence, integrity and ability. Backstabbing should be for fun, not for profit.

Up a point. Then you hit a glass ceiling in the corporate world that then requires the backstabbing etc.. in order to proceed further up the chain.
 
As has been implied this kind of fuckery exists in every single organization that's bigger than 100+ people. The only way to escape it is to work in a really really small companies and that's not always realistic for a lot of positions.

I'll respectfully disagree based on my personal experience working for some of the largest tech companies in the world. I think it depends more on the line of work and what you do for said company than anything. That said, even if a company has 100+ people, that doesn't mean your specific area has that many, or needs to.

In the end it's probably not wise to make general assumptions as I did. The sentiment is that you should probably avoid putting yourself in those situations. If you can get a job at a huge company, you can likely find a smaller one that will pay you similarly and will be without all the corporate culture. YMMV.
 
As has been implied this kind of fuckery exists in every single organization that's bigger than 100+ people. The only way to escape it is to work in a really really small companies and that's not always realistic for a lot of positions.

Depends on how high the ladder you want to go, but it's absolutely possible to find a job that doesn't require backstabbing to get to a comfortable position.

Unless you're talking about elite-level ladder climbing, involving high six figure positions, CEOs, executive management, U.S. Senator, etc. you can succeed without being a douche. And at that point, you really need to ask yourself if it's worth it to climb higher.
 
That's basically how you climb the corporate ladder in the office once you reach a certain threshold. If you think you'll one day be the multi millionaire CEO with nothing but integrity, work ethic and playing fair and by the rules, you're just kidding yourself.

Hate to say it, but I agree.

I won't say it requires "backstabbing", but your typical work will not be what gets you far.

It's kissing the right asses, taking credit for the correct things, writing enough bullshit on your yearly evaluations, finding the right exploits, etc.. etc... Part of it is simply finding opportunities.

By all means, you can make it up to manager on work alone when working at Pizza Hut, but that's not going to get you a white collar high rank position.
 
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