<< Pyro - So much written, so little said. >>
Oh My GOD! What a powerful counter argument! Why I'd better go out and buy a Mac right now, because you just managed to convince me that they are better!!!
<< Pyro - So much written, so little said. >>
Oh My GOD! What a powerful counter argument! Why I'd better go out and buy a Mac right now, because you just managed to convince me that they are better!!!
LaBang
What things are there on a Mac that are good? or better than a PC?
As Pyro pointed out: They cost more than a SPEED equivilent PC and there top of the line model is slower than a top of the line model PC. And there is no way near as much support for software and hardware. They don't seem that much better to me... maybe I'm missing something tho? Care to explain?
What things are there on a Mac that are good? or better than a PC?
As Pyro pointed out: They cost more than a SPEED equivilent PC and there top of the line model is slower than a top of the line model PC. And there is no way near as much support for software and hardware. They don't seem that much better to me... maybe I'm missing something tho? Care to explain?
Macs are heavily used in design and production studios and the like. I believe photoshop was made specificly for macs then ported over to the pc. If i could afford to do this, i'd purchase a mac for all my content creation.
They only have two arguments:
1) Its easy to use - something that is all but useless on these forums. I personally don't like Easy to use apps. I'd much rather take some time to learn a harder to use, but more powerful program, rather than some easy to use limited app.
2) Photoshop - listening to macheads, it seems this is the only real application that runs on the mac. Its fast because its written for AltiVec.
1) Its easy to use - something that is all but useless on these forums. I personally don't like Easy to use apps. I'd much rather take some time to learn a harder to use, but more powerful program, rather than some easy to use limited app.
2) Photoshop - listening to macheads, it seems this is the only real application that runs on the mac. Its fast because its written for AltiVec.
<< which one is easier?? click on 2nd button or just just hold the button? >>
Actually, since I have 5 fingers on my hand, clicking on a second button is just as easy, and much faster than waiting while holding the button. But I can see how you could get mixed up between the 2
Actually, since I have 5 fingers on my hand, clicking on a second button is just as easy, and much faster than waiting while holding the button.
True.. but requires so much energy you don't hold it down forever it only takes like a sec for the options to pop out
Its easy to use - something that is all but useless on these forums.
I wouldn't say useless... if you look thru the forums how many posts are about "help can't see my computer in the network neighborhood i have win98 and trying to connect win95" for apples doesn't matter you have Imac with os 8 or a performa with os 7.6 you put it in the hub or enthernet port and boom you see both computers on the network no rebooting requires.. it's until now w2k can setup network without booting..Mac has this looong ago already. I guess you are a type of person that wants to go thru all the configurations and head aches of setting up computer. True you get to learn a lot from it.. heck that's how I learn but there are a lot of people that don't have the luxiury to mess around and trouble shoot the computers like you. They just want open the box plug in the keyboard and plug and start using the computer..
also like I said before I would still prefer PC over Mac because of the softwares and you can custom design your PC basically but in the education world k-6 or up to 8th grade there is no time during class to trouble shoot the computers to wonder why it can't see the network. It's so colorful make learning more fun.
Mac is mainly for graphics industries most major film companies and graphic designs uses Mac. You can't really compare Apple to PC like that.. it's like comparing orange with grapes. both are fruits but one has different benefit to your body than the other.
but Win2k has been around for more than a year and before that NT4 (while not nearly as good) still offered features the mac STILL doesnt have.
Pyro
I'd like to know what features that Mac didn't have compare to NT4 but remember you gotta compare to their server type program..
I also like to know have you used Mac before?? How long? What did you use for?
I am just really tired of Apple's mindless propaganda targetted at idiots who can't think for themselves.
Yeah I hated the person who invented remote control for the TV mindless engineer's propaganda targetted at idiots who can't walk to the TV and push the buttons.
True.. but requires so much energy
you don't hold it down forever it only takes like a sec for the options to pop outIts easy to use - something that is all but useless on these forums.
I wouldn't say useless... if you look thru the forums how many posts are about "help can't see my computer in the network neighborhood i have win98 and trying to connect win95" for apples doesn't matter you have Imac with os 8 or a performa with os 7.6 you put it in the hub or enthernet port and boom you see both computers on the network no rebooting requires.. it's until now w2k can setup network without booting..Mac has this looong ago already. I guess you are a type of person that wants to go thru all the configurations and head aches of setting up computer. True you get to learn a lot from it.. heck that's how I learn but there are a lot of people that don't have the luxiury to mess around and trouble shoot the computers like you. They just want open the box plug in the keyboard and plug and start using the computer..
also like I said before I would still prefer PC over Mac because of the softwares and you can custom design your PC basically but in the education world k-6 or up to 8th grade there is no time during class to trouble shoot the computers to wonder why it can't see the network. It's so colorful make learning more fun.
Mac is mainly for graphics industries most major film companies and graphic designs uses Mac. You can't really compare Apple to PC like that.. it's like comparing orange with grapes. both are fruits but one has different benefit to your body than the other.
but Win2k has been around for more than a year and before that NT4 (while not nearly as good) still offered features the mac STILL doesnt have.
Pyro
I'd like to know what features that Mac didn't have compare to NT4 but remember you gotta compare to their server type program..
I also like to know have you used Mac before?? How long? What did you use for?
I am just really tired of Apple's mindless propaganda targetted at idiots who can't think for themselves.
Yeah I hated the person who invented remote control for the TV mindless engineer's propaganda targetted at idiots who can't walk to the TV and push the buttons.
"I'd like to know what features that Mac didn't have compare to NT4 but remember you gotta compare to their server type program..
I also like to know have you used Mac before?? How long? What did you use for?"
Remember that both NT (which I never really liked) was suitable for home use and there are very few things stopping Win2k from being a nice home user's OS. I personally wouldn't insult myself by using win9x
the features? I presume you konw many features that the mac still doesnt have, even basics like protected memory or SMP. It crashes often and supports almost no hardware, supports few software apps and the list goes on.
"Yeah I hated the person who invented remote control for the TV mindless engineer's propaganda targetted at idiots who can't walk to the TV and push the buttons."
Do you realize how stupid this sounds? It makes no sense whatsoever! Wjem a company says its cheap computers with crappy 15" are good for video editing, then you know its propaganda. When it claims that those slow computers are "supercomputers", then you know its propaganda.
Dont get me wrong. its not just apple. I hate intel's ads too, but they are nowhere near as bad as apples. Apples is simply the worst.
I also like to know have you used Mac before?? How long? What did you use for?"
Remember that both NT (which I never really liked) was suitable for home use and there are very few things stopping Win2k from being a nice home user's OS. I personally wouldn't insult myself by using win9x
the features? I presume you konw many features that the mac still doesnt have, even basics like protected memory or SMP. It crashes often and supports almost no hardware, supports few software apps and the list goes on.
"Yeah I hated the person who invented remote control for the TV mindless engineer's propaganda targetted at idiots who can't walk to the TV and push the buttons."
Do you realize how stupid this sounds? It makes no sense whatsoever! Wjem a company says its cheap computers with crappy 15" are good for video editing, then you know its propaganda. When it claims that those slow computers are "supercomputers", then you know its propaganda.
Dont get me wrong. its not just apple. I hate intel's ads too, but they are nowhere near as bad as apples. Apples is simply the worst.
Ah...the classic Mac/Pc arguments.
Pc users love the power, speed, and versatility of their computers, kinda like fixing up their own cars. These guys are epitomized by the case windowed, fluorescent lighted, performance freaks out there. Some of these guys are way over-board with their cases.
Mac users are willing to trade the three for a better balance with the aesthetic, consumer friendly, pre-packaged feel of their computers. They love going down to the dealer, picking up a shiny new hunk of metal and starting it up.
That's why Mac users' always get these incredibly beautiful looking wonders while we PC users get stuck with beige or black platic boxes. (Atleast here in the US) Hopefully some of these case makers with wisen up and realize we want more than just a box. And there are promising signs too, especially those nice Lian Li cases...WOW.
Pc users love the power, speed, and versatility of their computers, kinda like fixing up their own cars. These guys are epitomized by the case windowed, fluorescent lighted, performance freaks out there. Some of these guys are way over-board with their cases.
Mac users are willing to trade the three for a better balance with the aesthetic, consumer friendly, pre-packaged feel of their computers. They love going down to the dealer, picking up a shiny new hunk of metal and starting it up.
That's why Mac users' always get these incredibly beautiful looking wonders while we PC users get stuck with beige or black platic boxes. (Atleast here in the US) Hopefully some of these case makers with wisen up and realize we want more than just a box. And there are promising signs too, especially those nice Lian Li cases...WOW.
"I'd like to know what features that Mac didn't have compare to NT4 but remember you gotta compare to their server type program..
I also like to know have you used Mac before?? How long? What did you use for?"
still didn't answer how long have you used Mac and what did you use for?
Remember that both NT (which I never really liked) was suitable for home use
What both NT? NT and W2K? I don't remember NT is targeted at home use.. if you are talking about W2K then i agree on it's stability and suitable for home use. but NTs are targeted for business use not home use.
I have an open enough mind, I am just really tired of Apple's mindless propaganda targetted at idiots who can't think for themselves.
So how are they targeting the "idiots" has it ever occur to you that they are targeting for ease of use??
I have an open enough mind
I don't really think that your comments are from a perosn that has an open mind.. if you read thru your posts.. idiots this, idiots that, stupid brainwash idiots..etc. if you really do have an open mind then you should try to understand why a mac user really loves their macs..
like i said before i still prefer PC.. heck I have a pc right now with w2k but i have worked on mac close to a year now and i see why mac lover love their macs
I also like to know have you used Mac before?? How long? What did you use for?"
still didn't answer how long have you used Mac and what did you use for?
Remember that both NT (which I never really liked) was suitable for home use
What both NT? NT and W2K? I don't remember NT is targeted at home use.. if you are talking about W2K then i agree on it's stability and suitable for home use. but NTs are targeted for business use not home use.
I have an open enough mind, I am just really tired of Apple's mindless propaganda targetted at idiots who can't think for themselves.
So how are they targeting the "idiots" has it ever occur to you that they are targeting for ease of use??
I have an open enough mind
I don't really think that your comments are from a perosn that has an open mind.. if you read thru your posts.. idiots this, idiots that, stupid brainwash idiots..etc. if you really do have an open mind then you should try to understand why a mac user really loves their macs..
like i said before i still prefer PC.. heck I have a pc right now with w2k but i have worked on mac close to a year now and i see why mac lover love their macs
Yeah the Titanium powerbook looks like one pimp ass mofo! comes with firewire support and all... that screen is amazing! I ain't the biggest mac fan but I've only heard good things about OSX. Supposedly it's been in dev for a while. Jobs made with his company when he split with apple. I'm looking forward to the Titanium, but too bad it has to be so expensive.
1. No, NT was never targetted at home use, and neither is win2k, but just because M$ says you shouldn't use it, doesn't mean you can't. I knew several people that used NT and now use win2k on their home computers.
2. Calling a 400Mhz G4 a "supercomputer" (in all seriousness) is NOT the same as targeting ease of use! Saying "burns pentiums" is NOT targeting ease of use. 90% of Apple commercial skew the truth in order to get newbies to buy their machines.
3. Yes, unfortunately I had to use a mac for about a year before I got my PC. My I hated my mac and loved my PC. Since then I have never again even considered a mac. The machines are very inflexible and expensive.
remember
beauty is only skin deep, and its very true with macs
2. Calling a 400Mhz G4 a "supercomputer" (in all seriousness) is NOT the same as targeting ease of use! Saying "burns pentiums" is NOT targeting ease of use. 90% of Apple commercial skew the truth in order to get newbies to buy their machines.
3. Yes, unfortunately I had to use a mac for about a year before I got my PC. My I hated my mac and loved my PC. Since then I have never again even considered a mac. The machines are very inflexible and expensive.
remember
beauty is only skin deep, and its very true with macs
Hey now, how about the new Titanium Powerbook running Linux? Now THAT would be nice! Plus, I've gotta agree with Pyro on one very important point, OS9 is a stinky POS. I have to deal with a G3 just about every day here at work (it runs OS9), and the $@#$@%# thing crashes 2-3 times a week. :| I've had to reinstall the OS twice in the last 4 months (the powers that be won't let me install Linux on it). I'm sure the hardware itself is ok, the Mac OS itself is the real problem.
pyro: MacOS has supported SMP for quite some time, where do you get your info? I by no means like Macs, but it is still nice to have a choice. I say the more choices the better.
Yep, SMP was even back in the 68040 days.
Serious Photoshop/Premier users could install a Radius Rocket in their Quadra for upto 4 processors (I think that's the max).
Besides, I like OS9 just fine. It does everything I need to do well. Except play games, but that's what my PC is for.
Serious Photoshop/Premier users could install a Radius Rocket in their Quadra for upto 4 processors (I think that's the max).
Besides, I like OS9 just fine. It does everything I need to do well. Except play games, but that's what my PC is for.
Pyro: it would be really ironic if you were running an Athlon, and begrudging the mac for its lack of SMP. Since the mac does have SMP capabilities and the Athlon doesnt!
I am running a duron right now, and I am aware that the athlon doesn't ahve SMP (yet), but its ok, since I have no desire to run dual proc computer. What I find ironic is that ONLY certain apps on the dually macs can take advantage of the two procs. Win98 can run on two procs too, but it will never use the second. In macos, only certain apps can take advantage.
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