Ok that does it! I had to E-mail my University's webmaster

Jan 9, 2002
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In short, my University's website is crap.

Current website
Proposed re-design

My school is much more deserving of a more professional, higher class website. It is being redesigned and actually came out WORSE if that's somehow possible. I have finally had enough embarassment of my school's Internet presence, so here is what I sent her.:

Greetings,

First off, thank you for all your work on keeping TSU's presence online.

I have had some concern with the appearance of the front page for some time now and wish it looked a little, well, more professional, academic and higher class. I look at sites like http://www.tamu.edu, http://www.ucla.edu, http://www.utexas.edu, and the like, and wish we had something like that to showcase our University. The current and planned layout just looks too "junior college" or "high school" to me. A few of my friends that I've talked to have said the same. As a fellow webmaster, I'd make more use of white colors and white backgrounds rather than purple all over the place. The new logo looks unprofessional. I think at least a refined, smoother version of http://www.tarleton.edu/~finaid/tsulogo.jpg should be used, if not a totally new redesign all together. I would hate to think that a simple oval with 'Tarleton State University' written in it is now our University's new logo... Why such elementary Photoshop images??

Some creatively cropped, outlined (stroked) and appropriately placed photos would look nice here and there. Think black lines accenting edges of the page here and there with some Photoshop created buttons, not text, would help the page a lot. I'm sure you have to keep in mind those with slow internet connections, but some images instead of text created rollovers created in Dreamweaver would be a nice changed for our page. And image maps are hard to deal with; one has to be very creative and use the image aspect of the design to its fullest, and simply making a page with a few simple designs mapped and linked is not that appealing. On the pull-down menus, they seem to just come out of nowhere. I like the idea of a pull-down menu, but it should really integrate itself better into the site. The color codes don?t match the site?s background or anything else on the site. A purple color code needs to be decided upon, and I personally like the lighter one in the pull-down menus better. The purple used on the front page just reminds me of grape popsicles and kiddy stuff.

The main pictures for the main pages are low quality and some are crunched to fit the table borders, which looks bad. A nice digital camera should be acquired to shoot more professional shots. On the front page, the Tarleton 'T' in the background isn't even symmetrical (the drop down on the right is longer than the drop down on the left on the top bar of the T). There are just too many aspects that look way too amateur about this potential site. I would even go so as far to say the old page looks better. Even it still looks very amateur, but at least it's cleaner. I must admit, your page doesn?t leave the visitor searching for much; it's as standard and fairly user friendly as they come. But the entire image just isn?t that compelling whatsoever and could be much more aesthetically appealing. Visiting a University's site shouldn't be like looking at block-like images created in MS paint.

I?m not the world?s best HTML author and I really don't want to come off sounding harsh about your skills, but this University is deserving of a much higher class website than something comparable to my high school's back home. It should showcase the best of Tarleton and the best of our abilities, and this just simply isn't it. Please reconsider your design, your staff, or both.

_____________________________
D. Chris Atkinson '03
Tarleton State University
College of Business Administration
http://chrisatkinson.net
_____________________________

:disgust:
 

gopunk

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don't waste your time, it's not like they're going to give a sh!t...

i know that if somebody emailed something like that to me, i'd be like "whatever..." after reading the second sentence.

if you really want to get something done, apply for a job there and get in a position to DIY (that may take a while).
 
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Originally posted by: gopunk
don't waste your time, it's not like they're going to give a sh!t...

Too late.

i know that if somebody emailed something like that to me, i'd be like "whatever..." after reading the second sentence.

No excuse for ignorance- I can send it to her boss if I don't get so much as a "thanks, I will look into your ideas" E-mail.

if you really want to get something done, apply for a job there and get in a position to DIY (that may take a while).

Thought about this too, which I would love to do, but not sure about time.

 

gopunk

Lifer
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yea i was going to suggest emailing the manager instead, but don't expect too much from that. and which boss do you email? at my school, there's a pretty complex power structure... even if one manager wanted to do something, and even if they were overseeing the website development, it's not a guarantee that they can do it. not to mention, the manager probably personally approved the website to begin with...

my school underwent a redesign, tons of people complained, nothing got changed. i don't care though, i kind of like our design. www.washington.edu

hmm, well seeing as they have a "give us your feedback" link on the current site, n/m. heh, i thought you were just emailing them out of nowhere.
 

Jzero

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I think TCNJ's LOOKS really cool, but when you actually try to use it, you realize that it's just for show and finding the information you need on their is an exercise in futility.
 

gar598

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yea, your school sites sucks.

You can do a website for my if you want - heheheh (plz)
 

Zenmervolt

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Shoot, my old High School has a better website design than your university. Pitt just redesigned their site and I don't think that it's as nice as it used to be, but oh well.

ZV
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
I really don't want to come off sounding harsh about your skills

i hate to break it to ya... but that's exactly how you sound... especially when you follow the apology up with the line:


this University is deserving of a much higher class website ....... Please reconsider your design, your staff, or both.

 
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That's ok, I'm putting my foot down for the betterment of the student body, our University's presence online, attractiveness for prospective students (=revenue) and keeping my foot there just shy of saying "hey, your skills suck".
 

bizmark

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I don't think the new site design is that bad. The thing with the "T" is REALLY bad, though. I don't see how they could ever let that pass.

I kind of like ours: University of Chicago. Kinda has that Mondrian thing going. Takes for freaking EVER to load all those images though.

Check out Northwestern for an all-purple design. I really don't like it very much.

Also does your university have a CTO (Chief Technology Officer) or something like that? That's the guy you should email, not the webmaster, who's just some techie with 5 bosses above him who has to listen to everybody's gripes and do stuff on a tight schedule.
 
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Originally posted by: bizmark
I don't think the new site design is that bad. The thing with the "T" is REALLY bad, though. I don't see how they could ever let that pass.

I kind of like ours: University of Chicago. Kinda has that Mondrian thing going. Takes for freaking EVER to load all those images though.

Check out Northwestern for an all-purple design. I really don't like it very much.

Also does your university have a CTO (Chief Technology Officer) or something like that? That's the guy you should email, not the webmaster, who's just some techie with 5 bosses above him who has to listen to everybody's gripes and do stuff on a tight schedule.

Good thinking- I'll try and find that out. I think the NW site is pretty cool- I could definitly go for something like that with ours. :)