OK, so where are all the Global Warming Freaks Now?

[KMurphy]

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
the news today was about how cold it is everywhere!

It isn't cold here. It's 52F right now, at 6:30pm.

Our normal high for this time of the year is 46F.

 

[The Sauce]

Well we'll all be driving liquid hydrogen cars 20 years from now so the issue is moot. (Except for my 350Z, which I hope to have by then)

 

[NokiaDude]

San Diego hasn't seen heavy rains in like 5 years. We San Diego people love the sun, but after no rain we are desparate. WE NEED OUR HEAVY RAIN!!!!

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Snatchface
Well we'll all be driving liquid hydrogen cars 20 years from now so the issue is moot. (Except for my 350Z, which I hope to have by then)

We can only hope.

 

[ElFenix]

one cold front does not mean that global warming can't be happening

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hey, just to make this political, didnt the EPA admit to global warming, and Bush promptly brush it off, blaming it on the "bureaucracy"?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Hey, just to make this political, didnt the EPA admit to global warming, and Bush promptly brush it off, blaming it on the "bureaucracy"?

I'm surprised he could pronounce it, because he has never even heard of the scientific method and I doubt ever stepped foot in a hard science classroom.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: Parrotheader

Originally posted by: misle
Ech year we get: highest flood ever, strongest storm ever, warmest winter ever, coldest summer ever, most rain ever longet drought ever and so on.

December was the warmest EVER in Iceland, yeah, global warming seems to be real to me

And by EVER, you mean recorded weather history right? So in the last 150-200 years. I'm pretty sure during one of the many Ice Ages that this planet has gone through, the summer was a bit colder than the coldest recorded summer.

That's kind of what I get a kick out of sometimes. Regardless of the whole global warming issue, the amount of time we've been recording detailed (or even semi-detailed) data on weather from a purely statistical standpoint seems to be tiny in the grand scheme of things, particularly on something as large a scale as global climate and weather patterns. Although I'm sure there are more accurate variables and smaller trends that scientists can use to point to larger trends (and even look back at historic trends), from a pure sampling standpoint it seems tantamount to freaking out every 5 minutes and trying frantically to discover a reason behind any 1/64th of a point move in the stock price of a well-established company that's currently trading at $95/share and has been around for 85 years.

well put, so how can we say that we're drastically warming up when we have little data to compare against.

There are ways of learning about historical climates and weather patterns w/o having day-to-day data. By using biology, geology and/or archeology you can figure out what the weather used to be. Tree rings, fossiles, soil and rock cross sections, and a variety of archeological finds can all give clues as to what the climate used to be like.


Lethal

EDIT: spelling

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: Parrotheader

Originally posted by: misle Ech year we get: highest flood ever, strongest storm ever, warmest winter ever, coldest summer ever, most rain ever longet drought ever and so on. December was the warmest EVER in Iceland, yeah, global warming seems to be real to me And by EVER, you mean recorded weather history right? So in the last 150-200 years. I'm pretty sure during one of the many Ice Ages that this planet has gone through, the summer was a bit colder than the coldest recorded summer.

That's kind of what I get a kick out of sometimes. Regardless of the whole global warming issue, the amount of time we've been recording detailed (or even semi-detailed) data on weather from a purely statistical standpoint seems to be tiny in the grand scheme of things, particularly on something as large a scale as global climate and weather patterns. Although I'm sure there are more accurate variables and smaller trends that scientists can use to point to larger trends (and even look back at historic trends), from a pure sampling standpoint it seems tantamount to freaking out every 5 minutes and trying frantically to discover a reason behind any 1/64th of a point move in the stock price of a well-established company that's currently trading at $95/share and has been around for 85 years.

well put, so how can we say that we're drastically warming up when we have little data to compare against.

There are ways of learning about historical climates and weather patterns w/o having day-to-day data. By using biology, geology and/or archiology you can figure out what the weather used to be. Tree rings, fossiles, soil and rock cross sections, and a variety of archiological finds can all give clues as to what the climate used to be like. Lethal

Bingo. If we all we can know and analyze is based on 200 or so years of data, then we cannot even talk about ice ages and such. When you do this science, you have to sift through many kinds of data.

 

[KMurphy]

 

[sandorski]

The Petroleum Industry(including US based ones) in Canada also admit that Global Warming is a serious issue and that something has to be done. They don't think the Kyoto Protocol is the best way, but they know that CO2 emmissions need to be reduced.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: sandorski
The Petroleum Industry(including US based ones) in Canada also admit that Global Warming is a serious issue and that something has to be done. They don't think the Kyoto Protocol is the best way, but they know that CO2 emmissions need to be reduced.

probably true.

 

[StageLeft]

Geeze, I didn't know a single cold spell could counteract years of continual increases in heat. Whether it's global warming or simply some other cycle in recent years the earth has been undeniably warming up.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Geeze, I didn't know a single cold spell could counteract years of continual increases in heat. Whether it's global warming or simply some other cycle in recent years the earth has been undeniably warming up.

yeah, if this keeps up, we're moving to CANADA!!!!

 

[Eli]

The thing is that we know what the gasses that we're releasing into our atmosphere do.

They are greenhouse gasses. They let heat in, and don't let it back out again.

Even if it isn't a problem right now, if we continue the way we are it certainly could be.

And I don't think thats a chance we should take. We're so stupid that way.. We don't change things until there's a big neon sign infront of us saying "CHANGE YOUR WAYS, OR ELSE!".

We should want to take care of our planet because it's our home, and our only home... at least for the forseeable future. Not because it's damaged to the point that it's affecting our everyday lives.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Eli
The thing is that we know what the gasses that we're releasing into our atmosphere do.

They are greenhouse gasses. They let heat in, and don't let it back out again.

Even if it isn't a problem right now, if we continue the way we are it certainly could be.

And I don't think thats a chance we should take. We're so stupid that way.. We don't change things until there's a big neon sign infront of us saying "CHANGE YOUR WAYS, OR ELSE!".

We should want to take care of our planet because it's our home, and our only home... at least for the forseeable future. Not because it's damaged to the point that it's affecting our everyday lives.

didn't the volcanic age of the earth put up a lot of greenhouse gases? What happened to them???