Ok - so talk to me about swimming

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episodic

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After having given running and honest go for now - I'd like to know more about swimming.

My swimming experience is that if I fell out of a boat 30 feet from shore, I 'could probably' save my life - maybe.

I have access to an olympic pool from my gym that is temp controlled.

I know that swimmers do lanes.

As a newb - how many times back and forth should I shoot for? What does a 'serious' workout look like after a while?

Any advice on how not to cramp up and kill myself or have to ask for a rescue (seriously, it scares me a little to be over my head).


I understand that I can use a 'kickboard' and hold in front of me and kick - is that a good work out in itself - or worthless?

I'm really interested in the kickboard drills as I don't feel like I will drown if I have something to hang on to - lol .
 

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This may sound totally lame, but I'd look for a class. You really want to learn decent form for all the (common) strokes before you have bad habits to unlearn. It will also force you to get comfortable in the water, and after you've spent money on the class, you'll be compelled to keep it up.
 

marmasatt

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I'm far from any olympic swimmer. I used to sink like a rock. It will be the workout of your life to be honest. If you go down and back like twice you will probably be pretty tired no matter what kind of shape you are in. It's hard to explain but it has very little crossover to other exercises/sports IMO. Every muscle will be pumped and fatigued very early on. As a matter of fact, I would use a kickboard for a few dozen laps and see how you feel. If you swim hard, your heart will be through your chest and your muscles will be all tight. What newb swimmers need to know is that swimming is all in your kick. You should be gliding through the water. Not feeling like you are working against it. It is a great workout. LIke anything else, once you put some time in, you'll be able to swim like a mile in a workout. But those first few days are *really* tough.

Let me know how you do. I want to hear.
 

Jeeebus

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I grew up in south Florida and spent most days as a kid either in the pool or the ocean. Hadn't swum for a few years and in law school, went over a friend's apartment for a bbq. We ended up in the pool and she challenged me to a race in the pool. A girl!? Challenge me!!?? I was practically a certified fish, so in I went.

On the way back, I was well ahead of her, and then suddenly dropped down below the surface. Started thrashing around and all my friends started laughing thinking I was just screwing around. When I stood up, my left shoulder bone was clearly not where it should be. Don't ask me how, but somehow in bringing my arm down on the water, I managed to completely dislocate my shoulder.

To this day I don't do anything more than very hesitant strokes in a pool, fearful of it happening again. Sucks, because I love swimming.
 

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I'm far from any olympic swimmer. I used to sink like a rock. It will be the workout of your life to be honest. If you go down and back like twice you will probably be pretty tired no matter what kind of shape you are in. It's hard to explain but it has very little crossover to other exercises/sports IMO. Every muscle will be pumped and fatigued very early on. As a matter of fact, I would use a kickboard for a few dozen laps and see how you feel. If you swim hard, your heart will be through your chest and your muscles will be all tight. What newb swimmers need to know is that swimming is all in your kick. You should be gliding through the water. Not feeling like you are working against it. It is a great workout. LIke anything else, once you put some time in, you'll be able to swim like a mile in a workout. But those first few days are *really* tough.

Let me know how you do. I want to hear.
They are. I started when I was very fit and during that first workout two laps at a time was the most I could do without gasping for air, all because my technique was bad and I wasn't breathing properly. Swimming certainly has a very high skill component. Irrespective of fitness if your technique is poor you'll do a really bad job at first, but thankfully everything improves with practice :)
 

Worthington

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I grew up in south Florida and spent most days as a kid either in the pool or the ocean. Hadn't swum for a few years and in law school, went over a friend's apartment for a bbq. We ended up in the pool and she challenged me to a race in the pool. A girl!? Challenge me!!?? I was practically a certified fish, so in I went.

On the way back, I was well ahead of her, and then suddenly dropped down below the surface. Started thrashing around and all my friends started laughing thinking I was just screwing around. When I stood up, my left shoulder bone was clearly not where it should be. Don't ask me how, but somehow in bringing my arm down on the water, I managed to completely dislocate my shoulder.

To this day I don't do anything more than very hesitant strokes in a pool, fearful of it happening again. Sucks, because I love swimming.

This is very common in swimmers. I had the same thing (ended up being a SLAP tear). Suffered from it for years and when I finally went to the Dr and explained to him the symptons the very first thing he asked me was "did you swim a lot growing up?"

More for the OP, that's not something you are really going to have to worry about as you are just taking up swimming now (although anything can happen I guess). And yes, swimming will kick your ass.
 

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This may sound totally lame, but I'd look for a class. You really want to learn decent form for all the (common) strokes before you have bad habits to unlearn. It will also force you to get comfortable in the water, and after you've spent money on the class, you'll be compelled to keep it up.

This is very good advice. Form is extremely important, commitment too if you want it to amount to anything. Of course, just learning to be confident that you can swim and not drown is a real accomplishment, but it's just the start if you are doing it for fitness.

This is very common in swimmers. I had the same thing (ended up being a SLAP tear). Suffered from it for years and when I finally went to the Dr and explained to him the symptoms the very first thing he asked me was "did you swim a lot growing up?"

More for the OP, that's not something you are really going to have to worry about as you are just taking up swimming now (although anything can happen I guess). And yes, swimming will kick your ass.

I used to be very into running but I had a sudden problem with one foot and had to give it up. I went to a sports clinic and swimming was suggested. I immediately went to a local public pool and started swimming daily for aerobic exercise. I was already extremely experienced in swimming, so that wasn't an issue. I was soon doing 1/2 mile/day and then 1 mile. One day I went "why not 2?" From that point on I was swimming 2 miles/day, 7 days/week (and that continued for about 10 years). I soon joined the Y (a lot cheaper paying by the month than by the day) and soon became their most dedicated swimmer. I'd pass practically everybody and I guess I was something of a terror. I used a snorkel to alleviate pain in my neck from thousands of turns. They called me "snorkel man," I learned later. Not too long after joining the Y I started also going in the weight room before my swims. After a while I was in there for 1 1/2 hours before my swim, and my swims were down to under 55 minutes for 2 miles, I almost did 50 minutes one day, shy a few seconds. I'd always take my 1/2 miles splits with a wrist watch, keep my times in a journal.

I'd have aches and pains from time to time but just swim through them as best I could, it would ebb and flow but one day the pain in my left shoulder wasn't bearable and I cut my swim short. From that day onward I was never able to really swim again. It was just before the Y completed its new Olympic style pool, so that was a bummer. A few years later an orthopedic shoulder surgeon was unable to determine exactly what was wrong with my shoulder, but everything else having failed to help (shots, physical therapy), he said I had the option to have him go in arthoscopically and clean up the joint and see if he could find anything he could repair. They found a "type 4 SLAP lesion" (superior labral anterior-posterior lesion, a type of labrum tear) and repaired it on the spot. The recovery was a slow process, physical therapy and a lot of stretching and gradually increasing range of motion and strength exercises. I'm pretty OK now, do the gym stuff regularly, but don't think I'd chance trying to swim balls-out the way I used to. I was very aggressive. One day a guy was in the pool who was significantly faster than me. Aside from him I didn't often encounter other swimmers in that pool who came close to keeping up with me, much less pass me. I didn't like slowing down for people and would try to pass people whenever I could without being rude. I got called into the office a few times because of complaints, however.
 
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Worthington

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yeah, I swim now after recovery but it's slow and gentle. No sprints or the like for me any more.
 

Wyndru

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Wow, it seems any exercise you do ends up having consequences.

Running messes up your knees and feet, Squatting and Dead Lift can mess up your back and swimming can screw up your shoulders.

I guess it makes sense, the more you use a part of your body, the more chance of injury you have, it just sucks when you are trying to be healthy and instead you have to be worried about injuring yourself.
 

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I don't have access to a pool with my current gym, 24 hour fitness. The Y is around the corner, and they sent me a notice where I can come in for a freebie, swim once, haven't bothered. It might be fun, assuming I survive it! I was so used to going for it I don't know if I could tone down in the pool.
 

Muse

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Wow, it seems any exercise you do ends up having consequences.

Running messes up your knees and feet, Squatting and Dead Lift can mess up your back and swimming can screw up your shoulders.

I guess it makes sense, the more you use a part of your body, the more chance of injury you have, it just sucks when you are trying to be healthy and instead you have to be worried about injuring yourself.
It's part of staying healthy, you're just going to have aches and pains eventually associated with keeping fit. Actually, I'm doing better recently, quite a lot. Still have issues, but my back has been solid for a really long time. I do my core exercises every time I hit the gym, which is every other day and I've been adding a few reps recently. Overall I think I'm pretty solid.
 
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