** OK Radeon owners I REALLY need your help and input !! **

[JackBurton]

I'm on the verge of getting a Radeon 64MB VIVO and I have three questions:

First off, can this thing handle 89MHz AGP? I've got a V5 5500 and the damn thing can't take much more the 66MHz! :|

Secondly, how are the drivers for Windows 2000?

And lastly, are the driver issues taken care of (on Windows 2000) for FD Trinitron monitors?

Thanks ALOT and depending on your answers, the RADEON might be just a click away.

 

[oldfart]

I wish I had more answers for you. I ran my 64 VIVO for awhile @ 89 AGP with no problems. I've since upgraded to a 815e based system. I haven't upgraded (yet) to Win2K. I have a Mitsu 900U 19" Diamondtron tube. I've never had that shimmer problem that some people get. The latest drivers are supposed to have a setting that fixes that. Any Win2K users out there??

 

[AmbitV]

well I have a 32 mb ddr radeon and it's running at 100mhz AGP

 

[ikaika1]

The drivers for w2k arent so much an issue anymore, so much as making them work... Ive been struggling for over 2 months to get any driver set other than the one on the CD to work at all, and gone through multiple formats, and I just CANT get it to work. Im not big into FPS except Tribes, and that runs fine on my v2. Im sure if I was really into getting some serious fps for Q3 or Giants I'd be pretty angry at this point. Right now its more that, yes I have a really good piece of hardware but its running like a TNT Ultra with very pretty 2D and ViVo. <Shrug> Most people arent having alot of problems unless they're running w2k on a via chipset, and even then, it seems that a reformat solves most peoples problems. The new driver set 3100 is supposed to be excellent, and runs most games within 10% of the win9x/ME drivers

 

[Taz4158]

<< I'm on the verge of getting a Radeon 64MB VIVO and I have three questions:

First off, can this thing handle 89MHz AGP? I've got a V5 5500 and the damn thing can't take much more the 66MHz!

Secondly, how are the drivers for Windows 2000?

And lastly, are the driver issues taken care of (on Windows 2000) for FD Trinitron monitors?

Thanks ALOT and depending on your answers, the RADEON might be just a click away. >>



Hi Jack,
89 is no problem whatsoever. The drivers for WIN2K are now fast and stable, very close in fact to the 98 drivers. There is a patch for the Trinitron but it seems it's not required with the newest driver release. Hope this helps.

 

[JackBurton]

OK guys thanks alot! I think I'm going to make the plunge and get it! You guys have been a BIG help and if anyone else has anything they'd like to add, I'd appreciate it. I can get it at BUY.COM for ~$150 so I think I might go for it at that price.

 

[Taz4158]

That's a GREAT price. Feel free to PM after you get it if you need some tweaks.

 

[duragezic]

Ahem $150 for a 64mb vivo? How???

Mine was $208 about a month ago and that was with $30 coupon and free shipping.

 

[Taz4158]

Link
It's $187 and he's probably using a coupon.

 

[conlan]

whered ya find the buy.com coupon???

 

[JackBurton]

Just use this coupon number to get $30 off... 80492381.

 

[BlvdKing]

I have the 32mb DDR Radeon. It didn't even like 1mhz over stock AGP (the Voodoo 5 and the GeForce 2 MX were fine). I also couldn't get the card stable in Window 2K with the latest drivers. Quake 3 and UT would run for about 10 seconds and then hard lock. I moved down to Windows ME and now in works in Q3A and UT but still locks up randomly. Sometimes it just freezes, sometimes the computer makes a loud 'beep' sound and spontaneouly reboots, or Quake 3 would quit to desktop with an error that says something like &quot;quake3.exe has caused an error in atixxx.dll&quot;, which is a driver problem.
Overall it's a good card but the drivers are very disappointing to me. I had alot of trouble trying to get this card to work. Be very careful when making the decision; the drivers do suck bad and by the time the mystical 'unified' drivers come out, the Radeon 2 will probably be out on shelves. I don't reccommend the card; I would try to find a GeForce 2 with the added features you want; the drivers just aren't good enough for the Radeon.

 

[dougjnn]

Oh, ohhhh.

Reading this thread is discouraging.

I do was on the verge or ordering the RAdeon 64meg VIVO at its current price.

Butttttt ...

I plan on running mostly Win2K (well maybe Win98se for games if necessary)
I have a Trintron (20&quot
And I'm planning on getting a Via KT133A mobo (the Abit K7a-R).

Does this mean I'm gonna be in driver hell? This thread hasn't sounded so good. :disgust:

 

[Taz4158]

<< Overall it's a good card but the drivers are very disappointing to me. >>


You are in a definite minority if you're having problems. The card works great for thousands of people. nVidia has more than their share of complainers as well.

 

[conlan]

thanks jack

 

[dougjnn]

I'm trying to focus the questions to running W2k on a VIa Athlon chipset, with the RAdeon.

I understand that Radeon drivers work great in W98se/ME. There also seem to have been fewer problems in Win2k with Intel chipsets.

But in the past, at least, in Win2k with Via/Athlon chipsets, and esp. maybe with Trinitron monitors, I've been hearing of problems. (And I'm *guilty* of all three.)

 

[BlvdKing]

Taz4158,
I am not the only one having problems. I suggest going over to Rage3d.com forums and looking at the tech support forum. The most common complaint is, of course, the drivers.

 

[oldfart]

A co-worker just got a new PIII 866 Dell with a Radeon, Win2k, and a 19&quot; Trinitron monitor. He says it works well. I haven't seen it yet, but am planning on stopping by his place sometime this week. Obviously, a Dell doesn't have a VIA based motherboard. People have had their share of difficulties with these boards with Radeons, Geforces, SB Live cards, USB and IDE issues. The proper install of 4 in 1 drivers seem to be what is needed to get around most of these.

 

[oldfart]

Some help for VIA &amp; Radeon owners

 

[Taz4158]

<< I am not the only one having problems. I suggest going over to Rage3d.com forums and looking at the tech support forum. The most common complaint is, of course, the drivers. >>


It's the same on nVidia forums. The few who have problems make the most noise.

 

[BlvdKing]

Yes, all cards out right now have their problems. Compared to my Radeon, my Hercules MX was a breeze to set up and gave me no problems while using the Det 3 drivers. NVidia's Win2K and Linux support is far superior to the Radeon. I had problems using the Radeon's 3D in Win2K (lockups) and I am still having problems using the Radeon in Linux-Mandrake 7.2 for both 2D and 3D! I had no problems with the MX in either. This is my personal experience. I don't hate my Radeon; I still have it in my machine and I am working around the problems I am having (I still can't figure out why I XWindows in Linux doesn't work). I switched from Win2K to WinME for 3D and I won't give up on Linux. We can argue till our faces are blue about which card is better and we would both be right. I recommend a loaded GeForce 2 model (if the beast exists) because it gave me no problems, even on my AMD Irongate chipset.

 

[BlvdKing]

<< It's the same on nVidia forums. The few who have problems make the most noise. >>



I see alot of different people having problems with these cards. It's not like the same guys are repeating their problems over and over again (although it seems like I do, lately).

Another common complaint on the rage3d forums is that some Radeons also seem to be fragile and burn out easily when overclocked.

1)dead radeon?

2)Radeon Blows Up...Grrrrrr

3)another one bites the dust!

Of course there are overclocking sucesses, but it seems to be a mixed bag for this card. I have never burned up a card before, and I have never heard of cards burning out by overclocking them too far just once. Usually artifacting is a warning, but these Radeons got artifacts and died right away.

 

[Taz4158]

The majority of those people....including the idiot who burned up 6 of them messed with the fan. Leave the fan alone, this is a VERY cool running card. And yes it will artifact and not just &quot;blowup&quot; I get 205 out of mine and have never had an OC problem. Work on fixing your rig instead of complaining about an issue you and VERY few other people have or better yet get a nVidia........ and complain about their cards.

 

[BlvdKing]

I have an NVidia card already. I wish that some of the people on this forum (including you) would have been straight up in regard to the problems this card has. I bought one thinking that the card had only minor driver problems; I now realize the drivers bring this card WAY down in terms of quality. I had a Voodoo 5 and a GeForce MX (returned the V5 for the Radeon) and neither had problems running at the 114mhz fsb or in Win2K and Linux. The Radeon sure as hell does.
Removing the heatsink/fan should make no difference! as long as a replacement hs/fan is applied correctly. I think there is some validity to these claims. I sure as hell am not going to overclock my Radeon now. In fact, some people report overclocking the Radeon brings little difference in terms of performance anyway.
You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine; whenever I see someone asking about which video card to get, I will recommend the GeForce 2 until ATI releases some drivers that are worth while. Even though I own the Radeon, I couldn't recommend the Radeon and feel good about it....

 

[Taz4158]

<< I will recommend the GeForce 2 until ATI releases some drivers that are worth while. Even though I own the Radeon, I couldn't recommend the Radeon and feal good about it.... >>


I've certainly not had a SINGLE problem but God knows we all know YOU have. Do yourself a favour and sell it and feel happy with your nVidia. Radeon didn't work for you obviously so why put yourself and us through your misery? It's a fantastic, problem free card for most people and overclocks beautifully with a nice performance gain for the vast majority of people. Sorry it didn't work for you but isn't it time for you to move on?