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ColossusX

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I like to have a gig, but I find that I cant OC my FSB as much with 512mb sticks, if you want to OC, I would probably go for the OCZ
 
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That kingston stick probably won't OC as well as those OCZ sticks, although I don't know where you heard 1 gig is too much :p
I've got a pair of 512 sticks, and they OC beautifully, while running in dual channel config
I would get those OCZ sticks though, unless you really wanted a gig...if so, look elsewhere than that kingston module, I'm sure you could find better
 
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A gig is definately a must for the future, especially if you are big into gaming. I guess it all depends on how much you wanna OC and how much you are willing to spend. If money isn't much of an option and you really want to OC, go with the 2x256. If money is kind of tight, and you can hold off on OCing, go with the 512
 
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well at newegg is there anything around $200 for a gig that would OC well with an abit NF7-S and Mobile 2600+?
 
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argh im not a big OC but I do want to get a lot out of that 2600+ mobile. But I also play my share of games and want as much memory as I can get.
 
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How high above 200FSB do you plan on going realistically? 230? 260?

I am going to be fair and say you will hit 2600mhz with that Mobile. Since NF7 allows higher multiplier adjustments, technically you could do multiplier 13 and 200FSB so this would be my choice:

TwinMos PC3200 512 MB for $88 This is great ram for decent price so pick up 2 of these

Your other option could be gunning for say 226FSB and multiplier 11.5.

Then my choice would be KingMax PC3500 $105 512mb I dont know how well this particularly stick does in overclocking but based on other sticks in that same family, the headroom is decent as seen Here.

Of course it all depends If the latest batch of NF7s allow you to reach close to 230FSB with stock NB cooling and if your Barton will hit 2600mhz.

Also Buffalo PC3200 is a good alternative but the 2 above are my top choices for your price level, esp. TwinMos which is a good deal cheaper. Remember to run the ram at x - x - x - 11 for optimal performance on an Nforce 2 chipset
 
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The 2x512 OCZ sticks would be pretty sweet for gaming, if you could handle the $255 price tag
I tend to find that if you buy the 512 sticks seperately, it costs a noticeable ammount less than buying a "dual pack", and they will work in dual channel just fine, dual pack or not

There is no difference between those two links of kingston memory...one just offers one stick, the other offers two in a dual pack...it's the same exact stick...as you can see, if you ordered two of the single stick ($92 x 2) it would be cheaper than paying $198 for the dual pack, and they would run in dual channel just fine
 
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ive heard the kingston value rams dont even do dual channel, so if you are interested in that, you may want to choose one of the more high quality rams

Ive never tried it for myself, but thats what people on the forums told me last time i asked
 
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Originally posted by: jediphx
would the twinmos work better than kingston? 255 is steep for me
Click to expand...

Well back in the days TwinMos came with BH-5 and CH-5 chips and those sticks were absolutely stunning. Now these chips have ran out so I am not sure what type of chip is on them. But they cost $176 for 1 gig or $24 lower than Kingston, have lower CAS latency of 2.5 -3-3 vs. 3-3-3 for the Kingston so they should overclock higher and cost less. Honestly, the Value line of Kingston product line is not that great. Chances are both of these wont do past 210-215FSB at best and paying $24 extra for both fairly "average" sticks isnt my cup of tea so i'd go with TwinMos. Otherwise the Kingmax PC3500 blows the Kingston out of the water but it costs $105 per stick i believe.

PS. Unfortunately you are buying RAM at a bad time. I remember about 4 months ago Geil PC3500 Ultra Platinum 2-3-3-6 was $72 for 512mb. Of course if you do not like the sticks you could always ship them back cheaper. It seems the sale on them has ended though so now they cost even more, making Kingston even less attractive.
 
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Thanks guys I went ahead with 1 gig of the Twinmos. Here is my upgrade, hope im happy with it. I couldnt afford to go ALL OUT but I think this should keep me happy for a while.

CPU FAN|AERO FLOW VA4-C7040 VTEC RT $25.05
FD 1.44MB|SONY MPF920 Black $10.99
CPU MOBLE AMD|2600+/266 ATHLON XP $99.00
MB nForce2|5P1A4D NF7-S V2 ABIT ATX $95.00
MEM DDR TWINMOS M2G9J16A-MK 512M $176.00
CASE DYNAPWR|SPIDEN-V 8614 BK 430W $35.00
Subtotal
$441.04
 
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Hi jediphx

I'd wait till it came in then look at the specs on the side of the included psu. See how many amp's the rails have. The more the better. Also see which one is heavier, that ususally means better quality too.
 
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Looks a little weak to me. Only 17 Amps on the 12v rail. The psu in my sig has a total of 29 Amps. Looks like it has only one 12v rail. So it won't have the extra (square-4 pin) 12v connector that many mobo can utilize for stability's sake.

I've got a spare Turbolink 420 it has 18 Amps on the one 12v rail. It worked fine on my mobo, but this was b4 I got the 9800 pro. I bought the Enermax cuz I OC and knew I was getting a 9800 pro. The upper-end vid cards draw a lot of power and I wanted to make sure I'd be rock stable.

EDIT: The Allied link wasn't working, so I cut & pasted. Looks like it has only one 12v rail too. Hard to read but I think it has 18A, like my Turbolink. Like I said above about it, it worked fine. Just upgraded to be sure for OCing and the vid card.

EDIT #2: I wouldn't worry too much about it. I can't tell what vid card you've got. When you start OCing and if get to where you think the psu is a prob, just put the other one in and see how it goes. I sure wouldn't run out and buy an $80 psu yet. I'd put whichever felt heavier in the system first.
 
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jediphx

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well I have a Radeon 9500 non-pro softmodded to 9700 pro (i got lucky and got one of the red PCBs that will do 324/311 :)
 
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guy once I get the system built what settings should I start off with multiplier and FSB wise?
 
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Dang jed, All this talk about a mobile chip and OCing has me too worked up. Can't...resist...any...longer, so I'm gonna order one this week too.

Anyway, I can see I'm gonna be interested in that last topic (where to start with the mobile) FSB or Multy? But I think you've gotten pretty far away from "I'm about to order..." Time to post that question as a new topic Bro. I think there will be a better reponse.
 
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Start off with 166 x 11 (stock 2500+ barton desktop setting) with 1.45v
Run that for a bit, then try doing 200 x 11 w/1.55v
if it works fine on the first go and is stable, try raising the multiplier by .5
you'll probably need about 1.6v for 200 x 11.5
200 x 12 you'll probably need about 1.65v
try reaching these numbers...if you need more voltage for stability, bump it up a notch, and from here on, try increasing your FSB very slowly and see how high you can get
I wouldn't recommend going past 1.75v (you'll probably get to about 2.5ghz)
 
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