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Ok, I'v had enough of Israel!!!

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How many times do you let a mosquito bite you?

You kill one another takes its place?

You kill it and two more show up?

It's best to go get some industrial bug spray to get rid of the whole lot of them because killing them one by one is not solving the problem.
 


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<< Vespasian, your obviously pro israel. You should join the israel army, and go kill women and children, and claim its for retaliation for the bombings. >>


I am, but there is big difference between you and me: I want the Israelis and the Palestinians to live together peacefully; you want all 6 million Israelis to die. >>



There arn't that many Israelis, in fact there are none. Most are Europeans with a few Palestinian jews. >>


What? 😕😕
 


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<< Vespasian, your obviously pro israel. You should join the israel army, and go kill women and children, and claim its for retaliation for the bombings. >>


I am, but there is big difference between you and me: I want the Israelis and the Palestinians to live together peacefully; you want all 6 million Israelis to die. >>



There arn't that many Israelis, in fact there are none. Most are Europeans with a few Palestinian jews. >>



where did you get that from? European Jews are actually quite different. Isreali jews have much darker skin color and are even classified in the Jewish religion as different. Sphardic are the Isrealis ( I think) and the Europeans are Ahskanizi (sp) may have the 2 reversed tho.
 
ashkanazi's are the jews from eastern europe while the sephardis are the jews who were chased out of spain during the spanish inquistion and setlled in northen africa and the middle east
 


<< I'v been reading alot about what has been going on there for the last few days and I'v not liked what either side has been doing but one single action by the Israeli army yesterday is the worst ever since this has started

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020306/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians_1853



<< A 40-year-old Palestinian woman was killed by a shot in the back, and two other civilians were critically wounded, Palestinian doctors said. Israeli troops barred ambulances from reaching the two wounded men, who died after being left untreated for about three hours, doctors said. There was no comment by the army. >>



Judge for yourself:| >>



I dunno, walking into a mall with a bomb strapped to your chest and killing a bunch of innocents, including women and children, is pretty screwed up too, I dunno that it's worse, I think the level over there is so screwed up that it's not a matter of whats worse, it's a matter of "do whatever you can to stop it!".
 


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<< Is it worse than a sucide bomber in a pizza restaurant killing dozens? >>


It is in the same scale as if there were 3 survivors of that pizza resturant bombing and Pelistine terorirsts would stop medics from helping the survivors and watching them bleed to death.



<< Why are you backpedaling and pretending to be neutral again? The title of this thread destroyed your feigned neutrality. >>


I'm not backpedaling, I'm now just alot more pissed at the Israelis than I am at the Palestinians. >>



A death is a death retard....there's now "oh you murdering that person is worse than them murdering that person over there" and who the hell were these two clowns they shot? Maybe they DESERVED it, not like they were at a fricking BIRTHDAY PARTY or shopping in a dang MALL, they could have been terrorists, you don't know.

The BOTTOM LINE I don't care WHAT your perspective is, terrorists have ZERO, ABSOLUTELY NO place on this planet! I don't care where they are from. And both sides need to have a couple other countries step in and smack them around a bit to get this crap under control. Seems like ever since GW took oer the whole thing has gone to hell, he's not THAT great people....he had a couple good speaches and a fairly decent cabinet to help him through last fall but he's butchering all the progress that was made in the middle east.
 
<<And you are obviously a beloved patriot! Why don't you join the palestinians, blow yourself up like an idiot and claim your 72 virgins and go and bend Alah over! >>

i'm an atheist, i don't belive in god or any religion. btw, mboy your obviously a kippah head.
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GOD DAMN. WHY THE HECK CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG!!!!!!

and to think that none of this might have happened if that stupid steaming pile of poo that is the UN wouldn't have given away land from a non-member country that it(the UN) had no business in giving away.

and oh what's this i hear, for the 1st time in its history, the UN recently won a nobel peace prize. how ironic.. how sad.. how F---ed up and twisted that the one single orginization that is probably responsible for all the violence in the middle east, and in large part responsible for many of the anti-western feelings in the world wins a PEACE PRIZE of all things. how ironic indeed.

and to all that are saying things about the suicide bombers give the crazy guys/gals a break. they are doing all they can. they don't have the power to stand up to the isrealis in a "proper" or "honorable" fashion. they are doing all they can. they are not "cowards," they are revolutionaries. they just want some change. </vent>

edit: the UN isn't the only party responsible, religion is probably almost as big a culprit.
 


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<< As such, the Palestinians have no accountability in my eyes. They're desparate enough to do whatever they want at whatever the cost. If this is indeed the case, there's no use blaming them.......To blame the Palastinians is like scolding a child for spilling his milk. >>



Spoken like a true liberal. Desperation != accountability.

So, if someone is starving, it's OK for them to murder your family to steal the money out of their pockets. Any attempt to punish the murderers of your family means that it is you that are to blame for their criminal behavior? >>


You're a moron. Spare the atempt to categorize people when you have no clue what you're babbling about. Go do some reading before you come here and embarrass yourself.

If you have any clue what you think you'd just read, you'd know I have nothing but animosity for what the Palestinians have done, and almost as much for what Sharon's regime has done. If somehow you read that I think it is OKAY to murder and steal, you might consider first going back to elementary school to learn english.

My point is, this will be a hard battle to resolve, because you can't pin accountability on the Palestinians and expect them to own up to it.
 


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<< Vespasian, your obviously pro israel. You should join the israel army, and go kill women and children, and claim its for retaliation for the bombings. >>


I don't want to kill anyone, thank you. >>


I want to kill terrorists...
 
<<I want to kill terrorists.>>

How can you tell whose a terrorist, since both the israelis and palestinians have done their part in murdering civilians. Or do you choose whose a terrorist based on religion?
 


<< <<I want to kill terrorists.>>

How can you tell whose a terrorist, since both the israelis and palestinians have done their part in murdering civilians. Or do you choose whose a terrorist based on religion? >>


Now murdering civilians makes a difference to you?
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Yesterday you said that you wanted to nuke Israel out of existence.
 


<< GOD DAMN. WHY THE HECK CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG!!!!!!

and to think that none of this might have happened if that stupid steaming pile of poo that is the UN wouldn't have given away land from a non-member country that it(the UN) had no business in giving away.

and oh what's this i hear, for the 1st time in its history, the UN recently won a nobel peace prize. how ironic.. how sad.. how F---ed up and twisted that the one single orginization that is probably responsible for all the violence in the middle east, and in large part responsible for many of the anti-western feelings in the world wins a PEACE PRIZE of all things. how ironic indeed.

and to all that are saying things about the suicide bombers give the crazy guys/gals a break. they are doing all they can. they don't have the power to stand up to the isrealis in a "proper" or "honorable" fashion. they are doing all they can. they are not "cowards," they are revolutionaries. they just want some change. </vent>

edit: the UN isn't the only party responsible, religion is probably almost as big a culprit. >>



The problem is, the land HAD no government, no structure, and no real "owners" when Israel was established. The last "government" to claim the land was the Brits. Before that it was the Ottoman Empire.

As I said in another thread, people really need to learn the history behind this before thinking they can form opinions.
 
<<The problem is, the land HAD no government, no structure, and no real "owners" when Israel was established.>>

Thats total b.s. and a misrepresentation of the rule of law in that land before the British. The British usurped power from another group, they did not fill in a political vacuum.
 


<< <<And you are obviously a beloved patriot! Why don't you join the palestinians, blow yourself up like an idiot and claim your 72 virgins and go and bend Alah over! >>

i'm an atheist, i don't belive in god or any religion. btw, mboy your obviously a kippah head.
rolleye.gif
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Actually, that is something we agree on, I have no religion and absolutely zero belief in god, no matter what name people want to call the concept!

And BTW, whats a kippah?
 


<< you don't negotiate with terrorists. they can't be trusted.


nuff said. >>


This crappy Ariel Sharon is a freakin' terrorist! Stupid hardliner.... tztz
 


<< yup, the saudi offer was disingenuous, nothing but a pr move. they might as well have told israel to jump into the ocean for peace. the arabs are full of nothing but disingenuous offers😛 >>



The Saudi offer is the same one that they made ten years ago, then ten years before that.
 
and what do you know? it happened again except now they are killing medics

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&u=/nm/20020308/wl_nm/mideast_ambulances_dc_2



<< JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The International Committee of the Red Cross voiced growing alarm Friday at the killing of Palestinian ambulance workers by Israeli forces as another Palestinian medic died in a hail of fire. >>



and to all those people that claim that palestinian ambulences are being used to transport weapons



<< Rafkowicz said he was unsure whether the evidence would be released to the media, saying the quality may not be good enough. Matijevic said that while the Red Cross took such allegations seriously, "no evidence has been produced to date." >>



and btw... about 45 palestinians and 5 Israelis were killed today:|
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,664601,00.html
aint that interesting



<< However, Israel state television yesterday quoted defence officials as saying that the army wanted to make the most of a strategy of beating the Palestinians into submission before the arrival of the US envoy, the retired marine corps commander General Anthony Zinni. >>





<< The broader thinking behind Israel's military escalation was unveiled this week by Mr Sharon, who said Israel must kill ever larger numbers of Palestinians until they submit. >>



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and a bit more from that guardian article



<< More than 120 Palestinians have been killed since then. At least 15 bled to death because Israelis blocked ambulances from reaching the wounded, or fired at the vehicles, said Mustafa Barghouti, head of the Palestinian emergency services. Five Palestinian medical personnel have been killed in the past 36 hours, he added. >>

 


<< <<The problem is, the land HAD no government, no structure, and no real "owners" when Israel was established.>>

Thats total b.s. and a misrepresentation of the rule of law in that land before the British. The British usurped power from another group, they did not fill in a political vacuum. >>



OK, what government was there previously?

Clue: The Turks ruled it until 1917. The Brits had it after that until post WWII when Israel was established.
 
OK, what government was there previously?

Clue: The Turks ruled it until 1917. The Brits had it after that until post WWII when Israel was established.

So correct me if I'm wrong. The land belongs to whomever claims it for a government?
 
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