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OK heres to you bad resume writing people...

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gaidensensei said:
Alright. So if it's not exactly a position related to computers but the employee will probably be using one for everyday data entry or something related to computers as apart of the office job:

You guys would expect something like

Super Man
Blah blah blah

Skills:
- Blah blah blah
- Experienced in general computer use since 1990.
- Blah blah blah

Simple and vague like that?
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What's the position?
 
It's still early to figure out, have some months.
It'll be as closely related to lab work as it can get. Private/public/gov clinical or basic laboratories, general chem related field.

To be on spot, I am going back for another degree at a school and am going to work part time in this area.
 
gaidensensei said:
It's still early to figure out, have some months.
It'll be as closely related to lab work as it can get. Private/public/gov clinical or basic laboratories, general chem related field.

To be on spot, I am going back for another degree at a school and am going to work part time in this area.
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Construct the resume and leave a placeholder for the computer stuff. When you have a position in mind, fill in the computer part tailored to what the job is looking for. Nec this thread when the time comes if you want to...
 
"Experienced in general computer use since 1990."


That is not really a hard set skill but a generic description. As a HR person I am looking for hard set skills and descriptions that will tell me you might be a good fit for this job. When I see generic stuff I will write it off as BS/Filler as everybody “learns quickly” or “knows how to use computers/PCs”.

Experience in database programs (access), Spreadsheets (excel), …

That line tells me the type of program areas you have worked in and also the program title themselves. If the job uses any knowledge in those areas I, HR, will see that and more likely pass you up the line. The selecting official will also see that and may ask questions about it.
I got my current job as I had a single program experience in my resume and that was what she was looking for. Without that I may not have got the job.
 
Details of your work experience and skill sets: Good
Vague pronouncement of attributes: Bad

ex. "managed a sales team and exceeded annual sales goal by 40%" is good.
"Skilled sales manager with history of harnessing team skill sets to exceed expectations" is preposterous.
 
That's the problem, I thought HR doesn't want to read a bunch of crap unrelated to the job and that the pages need to be condensed.

I could be super specific on what I'm good with but that would take up like a paragraph's worth or more.

I just wanted to make the distinguishing notion between the fact that I am not the usual employee, I also have a belt of computer experience.

Maybe I should wait like advised until I find that specific opening for a job and tailor it around that.
 
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I like Times New Roman font. It looks...proffesional. 😛

Many years ago, I let one of the secretaries at the company where I worked type my resume for me. She also typed up a couple of reference letters from my foremen and superintendents. In EVERY letter, she spelled "professional" as "proffesional." 🙄 (well, she WAS from Alabama) 😛

I've had a bitch of a time trying to tie my 30+ years in construction to my "new" career in bookeeping/accounting. Even though I did keep records and logs of things in the trades, there's just no GOOD way to tie them together. It's not like the "new" career is a normal transition from the old one.

It's not professional nor sensible to tell the hiring person outright that I'm an "injured worker" who has been re-trained, even though that's the truth of why I changed careers.

I KNOW it's hurt my chances at job opportunities...but whatcha gonna do?
 
I've never made it though HR. For example, I applied twice at the place I work now. First was for a low paying PC support job. The HR department rejected me straight away because I had no college experience. I had all the right job experience, years doing just that kind of work.

The second time was for a full time software development position they posted a few weeks later. It required a lot more college and a ton more skills. I had personal experience doing this and had done that kind of work professionally, but nothing I could prove as my job titles were always PC support. This time I did some spy work and found out who the actual boss of that department was. I wrote him a letter telling him about my experience and accomplishments and that I thought I was a great fit. I got called by him for an interview. After that he asked me to get him a copy of my resume to get up to HR.

I laugh that I was not selected for the low end position my resume was more qualified for and instead was given a much larger position based on a simple letter to the right person. I've helped a few of my friends get great jobs with the advice of never send a resume. Recently we posted another job opening and I know someone very qualified. The job lists a degree and he does not have one. He was going to mail in his resume, but I told him to instead give it to me, I'll get it to my boss and make sure he gets an interview.

I think that networking + proper advertising have done me a lot better then my resume has ever done.
 
my email is firstname@lastname.org.

my resume clean, professional, grammatically correct, and contains no spelling errors.

i'm applying for jobs well within my level of ability.

what am i doing wrong that i never get callbacks?
 
sourceninja said:
I've never made it though HR. For example, I applied twice at the place I work now. First was for a low paying PC support job. The HR department rejected me straight away because I had no college experience. I had all the right job experience, years doing just that kind of work.

The second time was for a full time software development position they posted a few weeks later. It required a lot more college and a ton more skills. I had personal experience doing this and had done that kind of work professionally, but nothing I could prove as my job titles were always PC support. This time I did some spy work and found out who the actual boss of that department was. I wrote him a letter telling him about my experience and accomplishments and that I thought I was a great fit. I got called by him for an interview. After that he asked me to get him a copy of my resume to get up to HR.

I laugh that I was not selected for the low in position my resume was more qualified for and instead was given a much larger position based on a simple letter to the right person. I've sense helped a few of my friends get great jobs with the advice of never send a resume. Recently we posted another job opening and I know someone very qualified. The job lists a degree and he does not have one. He was going to mail in his resume, but I told him to instead give it to me, I'll get it to my boss and make sure he gets an interview.

I think that networking + proper advertising have done me a lot better then my resume has ever done.
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yeah, the whole have HR go through 100 resumes thing is kind of bad....For one, half of them do not know what they are looking for.
 
gaidensensei said:
That's the problem, I thought HR doesn't want to read a bunch of crap unrelated to the job and that the pages need to be condensed.

I could be super specific on what I'm good with but that would take up like a paragraph's worth or more.

I just wanted to make the distinguishing notion between the fact that I am not the usual employee, I also have a belt of computer experience.

Maybe I should wait like advised until I find that specific opening for a job and tailor it around that.
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Yep we don;t want to see that in HR. BUT it could be something we see that fits the job and pushes you from the no to yes.

Make sure your resume has the STAR information first, what the annoucment asks for, and well written. You can have other stuff on there just be more brief and to the point. Also in the Fed Gov the 1 page resume rule is does not work. We in HR HAVE to see the KSA's. If not then your resume ends here.
 
Fayd said:
my email is firstname@lastname.org.

my resume clean, professional, grammatically correct, and contains no spelling errors.

i'm applying for jobs well within my level of ability.

what am i doing wrong that i never get callbacks?
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1. The market sucks right now, so there are way more applicants then there are positions.

2. You need to start networking. Try to find out who the the manager is or a person in that group. Email them. Yeah, it's weird and it's almost like cold calling them, but it's better than relying on HR to find your resume.
 
Gibson486 said:
yeah, the whole have HR go through 100 resumes thing is kind of bad....For one, half of them do not know what they are looking for.
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For the Fed Gov we have PD's/Statement of works that tell us the job. The office that needs the person has to sign off on it. So if they did their job correct we in HR know what they want and read resumes to see if it matchs the job.

Also in the Fed Gov, 99% of the time you can not go around HR. So that may work in the private sector, not really in the Fed. Now the person doing the selecting could just not choose anybody, wait the time required by law to repost the ad and then take you. But many need people sooner than later. So write a good resume first.
 
Fayd said:
my email is firstname@lastname.org.

my resume clean, professional, grammatically correct, and contains no spelling errors.

i'm applying for jobs well within my level of ability.

what am i doing wrong that i never get callbacks?
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I thought San Diego had a super crappy job market. Can I ask what type of jobs you're applying to? Maybe the HR depts. are just getting flooded with resumes.
 
You know what bugs me to hell? Uncreative resume writers that put in a little section called "skills" where they flaunt the fact that they can operate Microsoft Word 2007 and Adobe Photoshop CS4 as if it's the newest thing.

I don't mind looking at long resumes as long as it is relative and objective. For example if it's for a technical consultant position, I'd like to see what types of projects they've worked on, what their goals were, how it was planned and what the actual outcome was.

Also what's interesting are help desk applicants where their "objective" is to turn around the IT department as if they're some kind of super hero. Reality is that these pimple faced, socially inept nerds will be crawling under nasty desks in their squeaky clean dress shirts only to be paid 45K and have expensive dry cleaning bills while going home alone to jerk off to Jenna Haze. They are typically not business focused and do not see their integration in the business as a whole.
 
Fayd said:
my email is firstname@lastname.org.

my resume clean, professional, grammatically correct, and contains no spelling errors.

i'm applying for jobs well within my level of ability.

what am i doing wrong that i never get callbacks?
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You don't know anyone. These days, you need to know someone to get a job. It sucks but thats how companies hire. Your best bet would be to find someone that works at HR, email him and take him out to lunch or a ball game. Now you know someone!
 
when looking at degrees. do you round file those from University of Phoenix or National University? Or or same types of colleges? or do you give them just as much consideration as you do for someone for a traditional 4 year university?
 
Blackjack200 said:
I thought San Diego had a super crappy job market. Can I ask what type of jobs you're applying to? Maybe the HR depts. are just getting flooded with resumes.
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we do. it's pretty bad here. my wife just got a certification for a job that pretty much dried up last year.
 
rasczak said:
when looking at degrees. do you round file those from University of Phoenix or National University? Or or same types of colleges? or do you give them just as much consideration as you do for someone for a traditional 4 year university?
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Private sector may be different. But at the Fed Level in HR we have to accept all accredited colleges. So if I go to the Dept of Education and your degree year is a year that college and program was accredited then you will get full credit. Now the selecting official may be different.

1 bad one was someone had a degree from a college that is accredited now. But when he got his degree it was not accredited. So I cut him for not meeting the minimum qualifications.
 
With frequent enough threads related to the job hunt why isn't there a sub-forum for it?

I've been reworking my resume since I'm looking for a new job, only thing I'm stuck at is converting my objective into a profile statement, just can't find the right words for it. I tried to ask career services at my school, they said flow looked fine and all. I had asked for help on the change from objective to profile, & he just sent me a guide I've gone over several times about resume tips. -_-
 
how much value is there being a guild leader in WoW?
it's on my resume under leadership skills but i haven't been getting many callbacks and interviews.
 
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