OK guys need opinions fast plz

blackangst1

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Basically Im looking for a gaming card for a Conroe e6600 system. In the for sale section Im looking at two cards and really cant make up my mind...

ATI X1900XT 512 with aftermarket Accelero heatsink/fan, retail box $220 shipped...

or

MSI 7900GTX 512mb FULL RETAIL BOX, $250 shipped.

Opinions? seems both are very good deals just dont know which one to get lol
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
ok got it...the ATI card it is.

Thanks for the fast responses :) And happy new year!

Same to you and enjoy a great gaming year.
 

CP5670

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It's always convenient for the OP when everyone gives the same advice. :D
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
Pro's:
-HDR+AA
-HQAF
-Overclock it and it's faster then 7900GTX
-Cheaper

Cons:
-...?
Cons? Bad scaling, broken Adaptive AA (and inferior to Transparency AA), no EVGA (I miss them a lot), and the HSF might have the sticky-glue on the card's memory modules (it has been known to happen with the Acceleros).
 

Zenoth

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Pro's:
-HDR+AA
-HQAF
-Overclock it and it's faster then 7900GTX
-Cheaper

Cons:
-...?
Cons? Bad scaling, broken Adaptive AA (and inferior to Transparency AA), no EVGA (I miss them a lot), and the HSF might have the sticky-glue on the card's memory modules (it has been known to happen with the Acceleros).

Broken Adaptive A-A ? Please explain and give examples.
 

akshayt

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ATI is faster, Nvidia has some different type of feel (smoothness) which I personally seem to like more, although Nvidia cards don't feel as fast.
 

josh6079

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Broken Adaptive A-A ? Please explain and give examples.
Broken as in not working. Guild Wars and Splinter Cell - Double Agent are two games I've personally dealt with that don't work with ATi's AAA.
 

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Zenoth

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Broken Adaptive A-A ? Please explain and give examples.
Broken as in not working. Guild Wars and Splinter Cell - Double Agent are two games I've personally dealt with that don't work with ATi's AAA.

It has to do with the game's engine, not the whole functionality in the hardware.

My Adaptive A-A works in Half-Life 2 and any Source-based games, Medieval II: Total War, Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, Company of Heroes, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Battle for Middle-Earth II: ROTWK and Age of Empires III (all the games I play currently). Don't blame ATi because developers can't use their features properly.
 

Cookie Monster

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Yet nVIDIA's TRAA works on all games.

I dont think it has to do with the devs but how the Adaptive AA algorithms work. (that casues conflicts in some game engines etc)
 

josh6079

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It has to do with the game's engine, not the whole functionality in the hardware.
No it doesn't. Replacing the X1900XT with a 7800GT solves the lack of alpha texture anti-aliasing - and it isn't because the games' engine doesn't allow it.
My Adaptive A-A works in Half-Life 2 and any Source-based games...
Performance AAA doesn't (multi-sampling adaptive AA).

But, as long as your frames are good the better looking Quality AAA works fine. 50% functionality just worked out in favor for image quality for that title.
...Medieval II: Total War, Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, Company of Heroes, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Battle for Middle-Earth II: ROTWK and Age of Empires III (all the games I play currently). Don't blame ATi because developers can't use their features properly.
I never said that it is broken in all games, just in a few (and a few I happen to play). I'm sure if one of the games on your playlist didn't work at all you'd feel the same.

Not a decisive con for the X1900XT to have, but still a con. I probably would have gone for the X1900XT as well, especially with that price and aftermarket cooler already on it. However, the 7900GTX is still a good card. It's main drawback is its price, IMO. It really should be a little cheaper, not more expensive.