ok....gas prices are INSANE......(EDIT: Starts at $2.27 now)

[Konigin]

I heard that they should be about $4.00 when the war starts.

 

[Noirish]

Originally posted by: Konigin
I heard that they should be about $4.00 when the war starts.

less air pollution i hope, it's a good thing.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: desy
Not an SUV among them

The inclusion of the Honda Civic on the list might be an eye-opener. Many people assume it's best to be in the heaviest vehicle available. However, some of the heaviest vehicles currently available, notably SUVs, are prone to rollover accidents.

According to the IIHS, vehicle size can protect you in both single- and two-vehicle collisions because larger vehicles usually have longer crumple zones that help prevent damage to the safety cage while reducing the crash forces inside it.

Vehicle weight, on the other hand, protects you principally in two-vehicle crashes, says the IIHS. In a head-on crash, for example, the heavier vehicle drives the lighter one backward. This decreases forces inside the heavy vehicle and increases forces in the lighter one. So while all heavy vehicles, even poorly designed ones, offer this advantage in two-vehicle collisions, they may not offer good protection in single-vehicle crashes.

i gotta question their methodolgy. they only took things that had side impact airbags. then they needed 5 star front and 4 star side impact ratings. and then this:

Insure.com also wanted to include only the best-rated cars based on IIHS crash testing, so only those that garnered a "Best Pick" rating given to cars that rate the highest in their category were picked.

so, instead of just taking a study of say, serious injuries/million vehicle miles driven, using real-world data, they basically just reiterated the IIHS crash tests.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

It is simple self-defense, you have to own a big truck here to survive an accident.

This reminds me of one of those cartoons; one guy pulls out a gun, the other guys pulls out a bigger gun, the first guy pulls out an even bigger gun, back and forth, on and on, until finally one of them blows up the planet with their huge gun. SUVs are stupid, better to die not a contributor than survive and kill other people and pollute more.

 

[zoiks]

blame bush baby.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
It is simple self-defense, you have to own a big truck here to survive an accident.

This reminds me of one of those cartoons; one guy pulls out a gun, the other guys pulls out a bigger gun, the first guy pulls out an even bigger gun, back and forth, on and on, until finally one of them blows up the planet with their huge gun. SUVs are stupid, better to die not a contributor than survive and kill other people and pollute more.

LOL!

I remember that cartoon! I forget, but I think it was a Bugs Bunny/Elmer Fudd thing... Could be wrong about that...

*now where did I leave my tank*

: ) Hopper

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: BigJelly

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Hector13


The fact that (in my opinion, obviously), they more truly reflect the real price of gas.

what would those other costs be, in your opinion?

uhm... lets see, pollution? how about the costs of war in the middle east? Or what about the cost of keeping our "Strategic Petroleum Reserve"? We might as well add the government's cost for regulations and enforcement.

Of course, going beyond just gas, there are other social costs for driving in general (ie, increased congestion, maintenance of highways, etc.)

thats easy for someone from New York to say when you have good public transportation. Have you ever heard of Mequon, WI? If you havent than that probably means we have no public transportation--which we dont. So the only way for us is to drive cars.
Hector13 each city/country is different; dont act like you understand everything when you know so little.

What on earth are you talking about? When did I claim that each city/country should be the same?
I simply stated that I don't think (notice the "in my opinion") that $1.80 / gallon of gasoline truly reflects the full "social" cost of gasoline. Of course I can't tell you the real "social" cost, becuase no one knows what that is. I think the fact that <b>most every</b> other developed country in the world estimates that cost as much higher than we in the US do (vis-a-vis their higher taxes) should tell you something.

If you are really arogant enough to think that you know better than everyone else in the world, go ahead believe what you want.

Some products (like gas) cost (to society) more than their manufacturing costs. It's is in no one's benefit to pay this increased cost, so the "free market" doesn't work for such goods.

 

[fluxquantum]

Originally posted by: pg19
$2.19
$2.29
$2.39

@ a Southern California Shell. Even the mom & pop gas stations are at $2.10-$2.15 now. I swear it was not more than a month or that it was $1.50 :disgust:

What's your damage and where are you located?

youch!! :Q

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Damn, I miss 4 years ago when I paid $.75/gallon

 

[JYDog]

Unless its like 3.75 for regular it no big deal for me since I don't drive much, 10 miles a day.

 

[rawoutput]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
It is simple self-defense, you have to own a big truck here to survive an accident.

This reminds me of one of those cartoons; one guy pulls out a gun, the other guys pulls out a bigger gun, the first guy pulls out an even bigger gun, back and forth, on and on, until finally one of them blows up the planet with their huge gun. SUVs are stupid, better to die not a contributor than survive and kill other people and pollute more.

SUV's pullute or consume more? Emissions on most cars and trucks nowadays are pretty clean. You've got your opinion, but my next car will probably be a truck/SUV (drive an A6 right now). I got hit by an 18 wheeler in icy conditions a couple months ago and would rather have the extra safety of a truck and the ease of being able to work on them.

 

[Gyrene]

87- $1.49
89- $1.59
93-$1.69
at Sam's out here in Brentwood, TN

 

[slider64]

My gas is free

 

[slider64]

Anyone want some?

 

[pg22]

It's $2.27 now!

 

[rh71]

$2.99 in Earp, CA baby! ... according to the ever unpopular (for some reason) http://www.gaspricewatch.com.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

$1.79 for cheap where i am...just jumped from $1.62. mine costs $1.99 though.

 

[NumbaJuan]

my bike and i have become friends again

 

[uclafreako]

Originally posted by: SkoorbThe analogy is iffy at best since electricy, heating oil, propane, and natural gas are what people need to literally survive - at least in the winter. A little gas tax isn't likely to make anybody die, or lose their job, or really affect their quality of life in many ways at all unless they're really really poor.

The best way to do it would be to increase car registration fees for vehicles with poor mileage. Perhaps an extra $150/year for every mpg less than 24. Just making up numbers here, but then if you're poor or want to get a small efficient vehicle you can. And if your car gets 13 mpg you're gonna be paying through the nose every year.

Excellent point. I can't agree any more than Skoorb here. Make the SUV drivers work harder to drive a bigger car rather than make everyone suffer by raising gas taxes.

 

[66FMC]

I haven't filled up in a week, and I'm scared to go to the pump. Last I looked it was 2.00/gallon for 91 octane.

I guess I'll find out what it's at tomorrow morning. This is insane.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: pg19
<STRONG>EDIT:
</STRONG>
It's now $2.27

welcome to two weeks ago for me. $2.37 for regular here. why god, why?!

 

[rubenswm]

I believe it's between 1.60-1.70 in Minneapolis, MN

 

[StageLeft]

$1.54 is about the cheapest here although the same place sells 89 at $1.64 and premium (93) at $1.64 as well! I love that place.

 

[oniq]

$1.69 for the cheap stuff off the berlin turnpike in CT