uhm... lets see, pollution? how about the costs of war in the middle east? Or what about the cost of keeping our "Strategic Petroleum Reserve"? We might as well add the government's cost for regulations and enforcement.
Of course, going beyond just gas, there are other social costs for driving in general (ie, increased congestion, maintenance of highways, etc.)
It is always funny when the swiss or others talk about gas prices, heck you can drive clear across their country with 10 gallons.
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Northern VA, sure...I'm talking about on 301, right over the Nice bridge. Cheap gas, cheap cigarettes, cheap fireworks. Just like Indiana.
Another thing, though...It may be $1.89 here in Chicago for Regular, but that's still not the most I've ever paid here. At the beginning of Summer 2001, as I was leaving Chicago to go back home for the summer, I paid $2.25 for Regular.
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Of course I'm not, I was just being funny... I do have big feet however, I wear size 12!
I drive a Suburban and I don't even have kids yet. Thumper drives a Honda Accord, but that should be corrected soon enough, I'm going to get her a Dodge Durango. Decent price, mid-size SUV with enough armor to keep her safe!
Got to protect my favorite wabbit!
: ) Hopper
Ooof...passing up a very reliable car for something that will need a new transmission at 100k miles not to mention problems with power windows, power steering, head gaskets, etc. Chrysler's reliability is sh!t. That's why I'm on my last domestic make.
And the Durango being safer? Misconception. That SUV will take longer to stop, won't corner as well, and won't perform emergency lane change maneuvers as quickly and safely as that Honda Accord. As for accidents, that Accord will hold its own against most anything out there (save a Freightliner or an Amtrak...but then nothing out there will).
The Durango is not my first choice for reliability, but it has a lot more armor than the Accord does.
You haven't been to Texas recently, have you? More SUVs and full size pickups are sold here than cars. It is simple self-defense, you have to own a big truck here to survive an accident.
That Accord will be ripped to peices if a Suburban crashes into it. That Durango will hold up much better due to the larger mass of the vehicle.
That is one of the reasons I drive a Suburban. Part of the price I pay in purchase price and fuel is simply my way of paying for armor protection. 6,000lbs of it...
Considering that I'm not even going to bother getting the ding on my bumper fixed, and that the Sentra that hit me needs almost $5,000 in repairs to fix, I think the money is well spent.
I want Thumper to get a Tahoe, but she says they are too big for her. Grr...
: ) Hopper
I just got my gas bill for the month of February.. 390$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am still in shock, damn that his more then all my other bills combined. I need spring here like NOW. Damn I need a second job to pay for this gas increase its nuts. I pay an additional 50 dollars for car gas and 2.5 times the normal gas range. Jeez.
and then you can pay that $25 (or euro) toll when you hit the border with Italy...
And then pay that $1.50 toll every few miles as you drive on the Italien autostradas (or whatever the hell they are called).
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well at least those are valid concerns.
i'd rather just have polution controls at the factory with permits auctioned off for lease to accurately reflect the price of polution
the strategic petroleum reserve costs almost nothing, and i don't see why the cost of that should be bourne just by people who drive, as its more to ensure that the military could survive without new petroleum coming into the US. more a defense thing, IMHO.
maintenence of highways is what the current gas tax is supposed to be used for, but its rarely distributed back to states the way that its supposed to be, and is usually held as sword of damocles over states' heads to get them to do other things the feds want (like the 21 drinking age)
i'm not sure where the costs for regulation and enforcement come from state to state, i think its the general coffers, which makes sense seeing as how petroleum products are used in a lot more places than just gas pumps.
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yeah... i hated not having a car for a while.
But seeing how high prices are... i'm glad i don't have one.
But seeing how high prices are... i'm glad i don't have one.
people saying that we should justr stop driving?
I drive to work and back 5 times a week or more....not cuzz i want to but i have too. I cant ride a bike cuzz it would be 100 miles to and from work. I work in a town that is destroyed from industrial polution so moving trhere is not an option. i dont drive any other day of the week.
I drive to work and back 5 times a week or more....not cuzz i want to but i have too. I cant ride a bike cuzz it would be 100 miles to and from work. I work in a town that is destroyed from industrial polution so moving trhere is not an option. i dont drive any other day of the week.
move closer? IT's not like you have to live NEXT to where you work.. but wouldn't a 10-20 mile commute be a lot cheaper than a 100 mile commute?
depending on which part of town it ranges from (87 - cheap stuff):
$1.45 - $1.77/gallon.
this is all within a 10 mile radius.
$1.45 - $1.77/gallon.
this is all within a 10 mile radius.
$2.43 @ a Shell in Downtown SF. I didn't notice what the Shell @ the foot of the Bay Bridge is selling for.
Spain gas was about $5.00 a gallon.... didn't do the math all the way... it was Euros / liter and the dollar was sinking.....
Spain gas was about $5.00 a gallon.... didn't do the math all the way... it was Euros / liter and the dollar was sinking.....
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
That Accord will be ripped to peices if a Suburban crashes into it. That Durango will hold up much better due to the larger mass of the vehicle.
That is one of the reasons I drive a Suburban. Part of the price I pay in purchase price and fuel is simply my way of paying for armor protection. 6,000lbs of it...
Considering that I'm not even going to bother getting the ding on my bumper fixed, and that the Sentra that hit me needs almost $5,000 in repairs to fix, I think the money is well spent.
I want Thumper to get a Tahoe, but she says they are too big for her. Grr...
: ) Hopper
Well...have you seen those crash test videos that are performed on cars? They slam a car at 35mph into...A WALL or slam a 3000lb+ sled at just under 40mph into the front of a vehicle on offset crash tests. Yes, the Accord would sustain a huge amount of damage but the occupants will most likely be unharmed or only slightly injured provided seat belts were also used. Cars are designed to crumple and disintegrate upon impact to absorb the energy. Not like the old days of, say, a '72 Buick that would could rival a M-1
but the occupants bounced around like ping pong balls.Cheapest gas I've found in my area is along I-65 in Decatur, Al..The hwy 67 exit - 1.49/gal.
In Huntsville, the average seems to be around 1.67/gal for regular.
The prices seem to be dropping a little bit, finding more stations with 1.63/gal instead of 1.67.
I understand it should jump to 1.76/gal next month.
In Huntsville, the average seems to be around 1.67/gal for regular.
The prices seem to be dropping a little bit, finding more stations with 1.63/gal instead of 1.67.
I understand it should jump to 1.76/gal next month.
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