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Ok, does anything really exist?

episodic

episodic

Lifer
Ok, all these questions my intro to philosophy professor asked - but never answered years ago.

I was just thinking on this.

'Minds' percieve 'everything'.

Without minds would there be anything?


I mean seriously if there was no mind to percieve - animal or man - anywhere in the universe - would it still be there?

 
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
do these idiotic threads really exist?
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It's a valid question.

Things would still exist, but it nothing was sentient, whats exists may as well not exist (except if anything with the abillity to exist could arise from what was already here, though given the fact we are here, it would seem that life COULD exist, no?).
 
I just took philosophy this past summer...I should remember this. 🙁

One thing we addressed was 'does anything exist'..I don't think we touched on the 'without minds, would anything exist.'
 
I think it's completely possible that everything does not exist and that everything we know is a figment of our imagination. But it'd rather that not be the case.
 
It's obvious that it would. its just like "if a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" of course it does. Sound is a wave of energy, if your there to perceive it or not, has nothing to do with its exsistence.
 
Damn, is this deep thought hour? 😉


Seriously, I never took philisophy (rather I took it, and dropped it), but I believe that things cannot exist to you if you cannot percieve them. Take for example, someone that is ignorant to the fact that the internet exists. It exists to me because I know about it, however to the person that does not know about, it does not exist. I guess what I am saying is that for something to exist, you have to be cognizant of it.


So if we did not have minds, we could not be cognizant of anything, therefore, nothing could exist.
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Your attention span is quite episodic there, eh, mate?
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Ahh someone that looked up my nickname 🙂

I'm adhd to the extreme 🙂
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or perhaps I have good diction😛


.....it emerges as a series of gastric excressions and discharges on these forums though...usually lively debate brings it on but sometimes it popus up for the inane😱
 
Originally posted by: Wanescotting
Damn, is this deep thought hour? 😉


Seriously, I never took philisophy (rather I took it, and dropped it), but I believe that things cannot exist to you if you cannot percieve them. Take for example, someone that is ignorant to the fact that the internet exists. It exists to me because I know about it, however to the person that does not know about, it does not exist. I guess what I am saying is that for something to exist, you have to be cognizant of it.


So if we did not have minds, we could not be cognizant of anything, therefore, nothing could exist.
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By that logic, it is possible for something to exist and to not exist at the same time.
 
I think therefore i am.

From my vantage point it is a a statement of self-recognition that neither serves to prove or disprove the external. It is a realization that one can observe, catalogue, and review one owns existance and serve as judge and jury.

To say that things would not exist is quite sellfish. It assumes that we are the only storytellers cataloging existence.

We are simple recognizers of our own meaninglessness and feel that it makes us special.
 
Originally posted by: Supercharged
I think it's completely possible that everything does not exist and that everything we know is a figment of our imagination. But it'd rather that not be the case.
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ala "the Matrix". We would never know if we were actually enslaved heat farms with our brain existing in a virtual world. It would explain "glitches" in the world such as ghosts/ESP/weird happenings.
 
Yes, there would be, however, there would be no us.
OUr universe is defined by our collective and individual perception of it. The Earth, the stars, all the planets, other people, exist for all, and exist in each person as each person percieves it. With a lack of that perception, we would cease to exist, but what occurs in the universe beyond our perception would not.
 
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