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Ok, buying a new PC, high-end

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tphss

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Ok I need this PC for audio editing/recording and video editing AND gaming.
My budget is about 2700$US (only computer), ordering on Monday.
I have these options for the price:

#1: Opetron:
-Lian-Li PC-V2000
-Tyan Thunder K8W S2885 /w sound,agp,pci-x, etc..
-Dual opetron 246 (2.0ghz)
-SPI Sparkle FSP460-PFN-EPS 460W
-1GB 2x512, DDR500 Crosair
-Gainward 6800GT Golden Sample (ULTRA2400)
-Western Digital 74GB Raptor S-ATA 10,000RPM
-No OS (Win2000Pro supports 2 cpu's?)

#2: Athlon64 939: (400$ cheaper)
-Lian-Li PC-V2000
-MSI Neo2 Platinum
-Athlon64 3800+ Retail
-Aspire 520W
-1GB 2x512, DDR400 OCZ (top of the line)
-Gainward 6800GT Golden Sample (ULTRA2400)
-Western Digital 74GB Raptor S-ATA 10,000RPM
-If I buy this I also have money for Z-680 speakers, another 74GB 10,000rpm HD and I can upgrade for the FX-53
for the same price as the Dual Opetron..

#3: Xeon:
-Your suggestions...
 
I'd go with dual opteron. I've got a dual athlon MP 2400 system which seems almost as fast as my athlon 64 3200. and I built it 2 years ago. So get the one raptor and maybe 1 200gb seagate. PLUS with opterons you can upgrde to the dual cores when they come out. AND it'll be "top of the line" for a longer period.
 
Random remarks:

For the dual Opteron, you'll need Registered ECC memory modules, and four identical modules would be the best bet with a Thunder K8W, to get all four memory controllers going (two per CPU). Win2000 Pro supports two CPUs, yes, although I seem to recall something about needing SP4 slipstreamed into the CD for certain AMD64 setups... or maybe that's my imagination 😕

For the Athlon64, why OCZ and not Corsair here? 😕 And an Aspire power supply?

The dualie would be nice if you had an ongoing task in the background while you're doing something else as well. Naturally you need enough RAM that you don't run out, but I suppose that's self-evident. Hope that's some help anyway 🙂
 
Freshfish, I have seperate HD for my video use, 7200rpm S-ATA, 160GB.
I want a 10,00rpm HD to run windows fast and important software.

Quasmo, does windows devide the tasks between the 2 CPU's? in all the programs? games too?
I don't want to use WinXP, I hate it. Win2000Pro supports dual CPU?

Thanks.
 
Yes, 2000 supports 2 CPUs.

You don't need such a high-end video card for editing. Get a lower priced card and use the extra $$ for another GB of memory.
 
mechBgon, yeah I was thinking about 4x256.. maybe 4x512 (I think it will be too expensive for now).
Casue the best OCZ they have is less expensive then the Crosair... Aspire 520W /leds Is cheap and I read a good review about it.

SP4 won't be a problem I guess...
 
I say #2 with a Enermax Noisetaker, Sparkle FSP-xxx, or Antec Truepower. At 2.4GHz, the 3800+ should do quite well on its own.

#1 might give better video encoding results, but otherwise not a whole lot, and will (in general) be slower for gaming.

As far as dividing the work, yes, it does. Start the app, then set the affinity--now it's all on one CPU. There may be freeware programs to do this for you, as well.
 
If it doesn't give me big benefits (Dual CPU that is) so I basically don't have any point of spending more money on it...
So if a single CPU system gives the same performance why do they make Dual CPU?
 
Originally posted by: tphss
If it doesn't give me big benefits (Dual CPU that is) so I basically don't have any point of spending more money on it...
So if a single CPU system gives the same performance why do they make Dual CPU?
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You quoted 2x246. 2x250 Opterons would have made the recommendation a dually 🙂, provided you knew you'd get benefits from the apps you ran (or if you multitask, have each CPU be doing tasks in the background).
2x2.0 under windows vs. 1x2.4...the dually will be faster overall, but not by enough, given what else the money could be put towards, and that a dually is a waste for games.
 
Drop the Aspire. Seriously. They aren't any good. Don't be fooled by the flashy outsides.

With how much cash you're spending, why not go for a Antec Neopower or OCZ Powersteam?
 
Case - Silverstone Temjn @ $152 shipped
PS - Enermax 470W @ $86 shipped... Spending hours rendering, you don't want errors from your PS
CPUs - 2 x 3.0EA Xeons @ $726 shipped
MB - IWILL DH800 @ $340 shipped
Memory - 2GB Corsair XMS PC3200 (4 x 512) @ $458 shipped
Primary HD - 74GB Raptor @ $155 shipped (after rebate)
Secondary HD - 200GB Seagate SATA @ $126 shipped
Sound Card - Audigy2 ZS Platinum @ $125 shipped (after rebate)
Video Card - ATI 9800 Pro @ $224 shipped
DVD Burner - Plextor PX-712A @ $99 shipped (after rebate)
Operating System - Windows XP Pro @ $137 shipped
UPS - Tripp-Lite 750U @ $73 shipped... Nice clean power to your PC and 1170 joules on top of that.

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Total = $2701... And you get an OS. 😉

This rig will kick some serious butt. 😛
 
(An Off-Topic question but I have to ask)

Why can't I write a new topic? When I click the button it doesn't do anything.
 
Blain,

I don't need the 200GB HD, I have it.
Don't need the DVD Burner I have it.
I have OS's too that's why better off without OS.

Never heard of "IWILL" I rather pay more and go for quality known mobo, and in the case of Xeon PCI-e or AGPx8
and Realtek sound is a must.

And I want a 6800GT 😛
 
im going to go ahead and back up the aspire PSU. i have one and its outstanding, and i also read more than one review that rated it very highly.

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: tphss
Blain,

I don't need the 200GB HD, I have it.
Don't need the DVD Burner I have it.
I have OS's too that's why better off without OS.

Never heard of "IWILL" I rather pay more and go for quality known mobo, and in the case of Xeon PCI-e or AGPx8
and Realtek sound is a must.

And I want a 6800GT 😛
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IWILL has been around for a long time and makes some very good quality MBs. They aren't in the spotlight because other companies cater more to gamers and therefore get the press.
😉
 
I don't know how much that Aspire 520W psu is costing you, but it's overkill for system #2. You could easily go with a hq 420-480W instead.
 
I dont know about Klipsch ULTRA's, I have no where to listen to them, and they cost almost twice as much as the Z-680's.

For now I think I might drop the idea of dual CPU's, from what I hear here and around I don't think i'll gain much.
Does dual CPU's help in games? will a dual system be capble of running a heavy game, let's say splinter cell/gun metal with other apps in the backround better then a
single CPU system? common sense tells me it will, i'm right?

I really want to already make up my mind cause this new PC has been draging on for the past 2 weeks and I really need it already. Just
don't want to buy and then regret, that's the worst.

Thank you all again.
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
im going to go ahead and back up the aspire PSU. i have one and its outstanding, and i also read more than one review that rated it very highly.

:thumbsup:
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I hope somone stole your account and wrote that. (then gave the account back of course)
 
Originally posted by: tphss
I dont know about Klipsch ULTRA's, I have no where to listen to them, and they cost almost twice as much as the Z-680's.

For now I think I might drop the idea of dual CPU's, from what I hear here and around I don't think i'll gain much.
Does dual CPU's help in games? will a dual system be capble of running a heavy game, let's say splinter cell/gun metal with other apps in the backround better then a
single CPU system? common sense tells me it will, i'm right?

I really want to already make up my mind cause this new PC has been draging on for the past 2 weeks and I really need it already. Just
don't want to buy and then regret, that's the worst.

Thank you all again.
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"I need this PC for audio editing/recording and video editing..."

You hear wrong. Duals are exactly what will help you with video editing. In gaming they are so-so. But you stated you were building a "High End" machine. If you want high end for editing... GO DUALS!
😉 For some encoding benches with single & dual setups... Click Here
If you're just building a gaming rig to play with stay with a single CPU.

 
Definatly don't get the dually unless you will be doing av encoding while you are playing games all the time. The kliipsch speakers are top notch, but unless you want a serious home entertainment system the z 680's are great. i got the z680s cause i doubted the klipsch were twice as good cause they're twice the price. the z680s are good at high and mid range and have the best bass in their price range. it's pissing off everyone on my floor and i doubt the people below me are too happy either.

PS i got them from compuplus.com for 235 shipped. funny thing was i placed the order on a tuesday night, and got them on a thursday evening with ground shipping. that was actually like 1-day cause i placed the order after close of buisness which cost over $100 but i only paid for $35 ground🙂
 
Ok I think I will stick to single CPU after all...
Now it's Athlon64 3800+ with MSI Neo2 Platinum nforce3ultra .VS. Pentium4 560 3.6 with Gigabyte GA-8ANXP-D 925X.
I think i'll go for the Pentium because of audio encoding/editing/recording.
But one thing, when could I get a Geforce 6800GT for PCI-Express?! for now none of the high end (X800XT/6800) video cards are out for PCI-Express
and I need one!

Btw, the GA-8ANXP-D has only 2 PCI slots, one i'll use for Audigy2, you think one more will be enough for me?
Others are x1 PCI-e slots...
 
I would definately recommend the Klipsch over the Logitechs. I own the Klipsch 2.1 but have heard both the 5.1 Klipsch and the Logitechs many times. They may not be twice as good but they are far superior with a noticable difference in sound quality. If you are building a top notch system and will be working with audio then you would be shooting yourself in the foot buying the logitechs. Heck, anandtech recommends the Klipsch in their $5000 high-end gaming rigs. If that isn't convince you of the sound quality of Klipsch then nothing will.
 
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